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The X-Files Fight the Future (1998) sub bass lows

post #1 of 23
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I've decided to look at the strength of the low end on the first X-Files movie. Very interesting looks like the new film, thou it doesn't have guns or explosions going off in it, it does have car and track crashing and neat on foot chase that ended with nice low end.

This one does rumble with a more than few bumps and jolts in the Dolby mix. The explosion of building only covered LCRS no LFE.1 is recorded on the scene so don't get to carried away with setting the sub bass too loud because once the unexpected LFE.1 come along they'll damage your sub.










There is plenty of lows in the cave with primitive man with the alien attack, I kinder skipped that one and moved forwards to the present day in Texas as group of boys break though to cave where the skull is found and some strange sticky black oil that moves by itself and consumers its victims by digesting bone and tissue and transforming their bodies into jelly.

post #2 of 23
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Helicopter flies in and around the buildings with strong breeze blowing that can be heard on the surrounds giving the sense of being high up amongst the skyscrapers. As it comes into landing it’s heard on the surrounds uniformly all-over it pans down onto the centre as it comes to steady stand still on the building.





post #3 of 23
Much better than the recent one IMO.
post #4 of 23
Let me know when you get to the part with the bass.
post #5 of 23
Most movies do not have much bass bellow 50Hz. We might be very well looking at the low bass?
post #6 of 23
Then why are we looking at it here?
post #7 of 23
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Then why are we looking at it here?

Who knows..
post #8 of 23
Why do we need waterfalls of movies with no bass?
post #9 of 23
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Most movies do not have much bass bellow 50Hz. We might be very well looking at the low bass?

All films are mixed differently thou some members on this site take things a little bit too seriously. me I aspect what the dubbing mixers did for that film for that year. (Saving Private Ryan 1998) doesn’t really go below 30Hz on the beach landing on the LCRS LFE.1.

As to what the other guy said better than least, in terms of story or soundtrack because I’ve viewed I want to Believe several time over now, and it’s not a bad story and the soundtrack is very impressive with warm (ADR) dialogue recoding Automation Dialogue Replacement.

I must have now monitored less than 100 or so films out of the over +1000 titles and that’s nothing to what you or I have. Worldwide there has to be at least 7.4 million films since the dawn of film in the first small picture houses of the late 19th century. Now ask the wife if she minds at all, if you stuff the house full to the hilt with 7 million films, I think her answer would be (absolutely not) now then.
post #10 of 23
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Why do we need waterfalls of movies with no bass?

Well you might ask yourself next time why isn't my sub working with this film it says its Dolby dts 5.1? The explosion on the federal building was quite explosive enough. And remember it's fabricated it's not REAL! Its only a movie.
post #11 of 23
jbl-

you need to include the colorscale in your spectrum charts.
post #12 of 23
You are saying that the bass was an example of the film and that the bass somehow is representational of the era based on the progression of the industry correct? I did not mean that the newer movie sounded better or worse, I just didn't care for the lack of sci-fi. I watched that movie on my computer with two PC speakers and a bass module, so I wasn't expecting much for sound but I did expect some better special effects.
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jbl-

you need to include the colorscale in your spectrum charts.

Why what's up with it?
post #14 of 23
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You are saying that the bass was an example of the film and that the bass somehow is representational of the era based on the progression of the industry correct? I did not mean that the newer movie sounded better or worse, I just didn't care for the lack of sci-fi. I watched that movie on my computer with two PC speakers and a bass module, so I wasn't expecting much for sound but I did expect some better special effects.

I thought it served the story just fine the visuals looked smashing for what they where at the time and still hold up well. At least the film hasn't been Lucas tampered 7 times in row, now then.
post #15 of 23
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Chapter 10 the train carrying the tankers, that contains the (bee virus) not bees oil. The Mark Snow score follows the chase nicely as Mudler is determined to get in front of the train if necessary and wave his FBI badge yelling alien conspiracy. He looses the train that passes though a tunnel while heading up an narrow strip of dusty road that leads to overhang and something rather strange in the distance?








How do you set this thing to look for higher frequencies because there is some cool highs on this that I'm picking up? I'll have to lookie into this mid range to high now that's refreshing over lows, because highs give transparency and sparkle to the soundtrack.
post #16 of 23
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I thought it served the story just fine the visuals looked smashing for what they where at the time and still hold up well. At least the film hasn’t been Lucas tampered 7 times in row, now then.

THX are seperate companies now and I never have said I was fan of George Lucas. I meant that I was not impressed with the effects in the newer film "I Beleave" or whatever it was named. I am a fan of Fox and MGM because my faimily helped start MGM and that is the reason I am still watching some very heavily mixed films. I have seen you reference the times of a film being mixed several times I am still waiting for an explanation of this and why it is different one year to the next.
post #17 of 23
The highest I can get it to is 3khz, Spectrum Lab won't allow any higher.
post #18 of 23
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THX are seperate companies now and I never have said I was fan of George Lucas. I meant that I was not impressed with the effects in the newer film "I Beleave" or whatever it was named. I am a fan of Fox and MGM because my faimily helped start MGM and that is the reason I am still watching some very heavily mixed films. I have seen you reference the times of a film being mixed several times I am still waiting for an explanation of this and why it is different one year to the next.

them what approaches they had in mind for the soundtrack. It's nice to be part of film history Leo the MGM loin. Roar, roar.
post #19 of 23
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The highest I can get it to is 3khz, Spectrum Lab won't allow any higher.

That’s wired no higher than 3KHz well that’s no good because most films have use of 16KHz not all the time most of the time a high loud pitch would bend my ears, you know that tone where it pinches the ear! Ouch!

(The Truman Show 1998) where Truman is driving around in his car while listening to radio LOL oh that’s so funny. The pitch might be slightly under or near to 16KHz?

I noticed this spectrumlab has USB and LSB as I remember from my CB days that’s the (upper single band and lower single band) modes on the sidebands, that I used quite a lot and the furthest distance I got was the Falkland Islands halfway around the world on slim 200 watts and high gain CLR2, radio was Cobra 148 GTL-DX.

Anyway I’ll have to look at what I can do with the high frequency there has to be a free program that displays fall spectrum, hold on wait a moment, wouldn’t REW do that on recording sound information into the pc input, now where’s the push the button for that???
post #20 of 23
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The Well-Manicured Man blows the head off of the driver who is assigned to kill him if he doesn't go though with the plan to kill Mulder. Trust no one!

post #21 of 23
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Anyway I’ll have to look at what I can do with the high frequency there has to be a free program that displays fall spectrum, hold on wait a moment, wouldn’t REW do that on recording sound information into the pc input, now where’s the push the button for that???

You would want to disable the (uncheck c-weighting if this is checked) RS Meter calc file, use the spectrum mode, calibrate the input using a 1Khz sine wave at -20dB FS and check distortion (check the box) to establish a baseline. After that you are in the Spectrum mode and hit the red record button. Note that -3dB FS is clipping and is actually 0dB FS.
post #22 of 23
This is the Young Indiana Jones series by LucasFilm without THX. Notice the film crew in the lower right hand window. :P



Sorry I went off topic. Back to X-Files.
post #23 of 23
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You would want to disable the (uncheck c-weighting if this is checked) RS Meter calc file, use the spectrum mode, calibrate the input using a 1Khz sine wave at -20dB FS and check distortion (check the box) to establish a baseline. After that you are in the Spectrum mode and hit the red record button. Note that -3dB FS is clipping and is actually 0dB FS.

I’ll look into it later on.

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This is the Young Indiana Jones series by LucasFilm without THX. Notice the film crew in the lower right hand window. :P



Sorry I went off topic. Back to X-Files.

LMAO I guess Lucas can fix that with each frame and pixel digitally removed with THX improvement.
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