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post #1 of 126
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- Final 3D plan 1-8-09
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- Insulation done 5-25-09
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Hey Guy,
I have been reading this site for a while.
I am now ready to build my mancave with all the good stuff like home theater, bar, and office.
The problem: I have no idea how to do the 3D animations or renderings everyone posts on here. Can someone help me? I measured out the basement.
The rectangle area by the stairs is to be used for the entertainment/bar
The rectangle area bulging out in the middle is the be the office.

I'll take pics of the basement asap
post #2 of 126
The 14'8" wall seems like the right spot for a screen wall, allowing for a viewing distance of 13ft on a 120" screen with ample space behind the seating for an aisle behind the second row. It also allows for good mounting for side and surround speakers for 7.1 with adequate depth for spacious imaging by the rears. The remaing 10 x 10 area to the side could be sectioned for a half bath and equipment rack with easy access to the panel and structured wiring including cat5 and the like. The area directly at the stairs exit would make a nice bar/lobby/etc.

Skip the Office. Who works in a Man Cave except Batman! LOL
A notebook plugged into a DVI cable to the projector is all you'll need if you must work down there. Stream your audio wirelessly to the theater sound system and create all the TP Reports you need with your favorite tracks in the background and reruns of Baywatch on the Screen all from the Laptop....hidden baywatch files of course!
post #3 of 126
It would help us If you could define your vision of a Home Theater.

Front Projection, rear projection or panel image?
How many people do you want to seat?
Open to the rest of the room, partially or totally closed off?
What are you thinking of in the way of a sound system?
post #4 of 126
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mayhem13, I really do need an office and I think that area is too small for entertaining. I need a larger entertaining space since I have a lot of people over all the time lol
I think I want to make the area by the stairs all in one bar/entertaining area.

BIGmouthinDC,
Front Projection or panal image, Not sure yet since my basement is small and not sure what works best.
I want to seat a lot of people. Sectional with a bar behind?
I want an open floor plan, but I do need some kind of storage. Perhaps it's best to close off the entire area by the electric box for storage?
No idea on the sound yet, I need help defining the space at this time

Updated plan with some placement ideas
post #5 of 126
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Warning, the following mess with shock you!

ROOM 1
Landing at the bottom of the stairs:


Looking into the first "main" room from the entrance:


from the other side of the room looking at the entrance:


From the other side of the room looking at the other corner with the water meeter


ROOM 2
Looking into the office from the main Room1


Looking towards the electic box corner from room 1


Looking at the basement from above the sump pump


Looking at the heater/ under the stairs


That's it...gotta go do some cleaning now
post #6 of 126
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Can someone help me by putting my plans into 3D? I have no idea how to get started. What does everyone here use?
post #7 of 126
Ok..sorry i misunderstood. I take it the space will be for casual entertaining and movies, but not a dedicated home theater?

I don't use the 3D programs either, too lazy to learn or already too much in my head already..no more room. LOL

You could do a projector in that space with a flat screen above the fireplace( watch the height and neck fatigue though!) with a motorized or manual pull down screen covering the flat panel when the PJ is in use. For a 100" screen, i find 12-13ft to be the best viewing distance so see if you have the room and include the bar and other seating that your guests will require.

I can understand the need for an office and you may want to consider a closed space for the office as the living space and the movie watching may interfere with your work time. Just my 2cents.
post #8 of 126
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mayhem13,
In a space this small, I like to maximize the use of every inch. I do think that a more casual entertaining area will be more beneficial over a full blown home theater. Do you agree? I like to entertain and just hang out.
I'm not so sure about a TV/fireplace combo anymore for the reason you mentioned above.
post #9 of 126
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Thanks to Kay at 3DPlanView, I now heve a 3D model!
http://www.3dplanview.com/jony.htm
What do you think about this placement?
post #10 of 126
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I'm cleaning out all the junk today
post #11 of 126
I like that 3d plan. I think it's very practical for the size of basement you have. A couple thoughts:

The bathroom - can you put a shower in too? Might help in resale.
The HT - Might be small now, but if you purchase the equipment, and then when you move to another house, you could have a large room / etc.
post #12 of 126
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Originally Posted by WingZero94 View Post

I like that 3d plan. I think it's very practical for the size of basement you have.

Thanks, can you think of better arrangements? I like it as it is now in the model, just not so sure how people will react to a bar attached to the office. Plus that will mean I will have to keep my office spotless all the time lol
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Originally Posted by WingZero94 View Post

A couple thoughts:

The bathroom - can you put a shower in too? Might help in resale.
The HT - Might be small now, but if you purchase the equipment, and then when you move to another house, you could have a large room / etc.

Not sure about the shower. The space is pretty small but I will talk to a plumber soon and see what can be done and the cost. I may not even do the half bath if its expensive (no rogh-ins down there right now)
post #13 of 126
You may want to check with building codes in your jurisdiction as I don't see an emergency egress window. Some places require it if the basement is being converted to finished space, other areas only require for bedrooms. Bottom line it is better to know so that all the effort will go to creating "legal" living space. Think resale value.

I'm not sure of the door location for the furnace and access to all that storage space. In the 3D plan it doesn't look like you can get anything sizable into the space. Maybe another door.
post #14 of 126
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

You may want to check with building codes in your jurisdiction as I don't see an emergency egress window. Some places require it if the basement is being converted to finished space, other areas only require for bedrooms. Bottom line it is better to know so that all the effort will go to creating "legal" living space. Think resale value.

I'm not sure of the door location for the furnace and access to all that storage space. In the 3D plan it doesn't look like you can get anything sizable into the space. Maybe another door.

emergency egress window not requiered in this part of ohio
Yes, i think another door would be needed.
post #15 of 126
Hmmmm, looks familiar...LOL. Yeah i like this arrangement. Just about the most efficient use of the space and you retained and office space to boot. Keep up the good work and let us know when construction begins.
post #16 of 126
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Originally Posted by mayhem13 View Post

Hmmmm, looks familiar...LOL. Yeah i like this arrangement. Just about the most efficient use of the space and you retained and office space to boot. Keep up the good work and let us know when construction begins.

Hope to start real soon!

Not sure if I should get the permit and all or just do it w/o permits and inspections
post #17 of 126
If you go the No Permit route, just remember the headaches when you go to sell the place since the changes won't be on the original C/O. This isn't always a problem, just certain lenders for the buyers can get particular (read FHA). Also don't leave any exposed building materials outside, they tend to attract rats (and inspectors!).
post #18 of 126
I can't. That plan really maximizes the space you have with your requirements. If you had 3000 sq ft to work with, it'd be a different story.

I'd recommend doing at least the rough in before you get started if you even think you'd like a bathroom.

Again, i'd think resale and convenience with a downstairs bathroom. After a few beers and a movie, you'll be running up and down the stairs....


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Originally Posted by JonyHouse View Post

Thanks, can you think of better arrangements? I like it as it is now in the model, just not so sure how people will react to a bar attached to the office. Plus that will mean I will have to keep my office spotless all the time lol

Not sure about the shower. The space is pretty small but I will talk to a plumber soon and see what can be done and the cost. I may not even do the half bath if its expensive (no rogh-ins down there right now)
post #19 of 126
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Thank you, I will definitely try my hardest to get a half bath down there.
Any more opinion on the layout?
post #20 of 126
The storage space could be used as a place to recess the rack (if the bathroom is a bit re-configured) - or perhaps as an infinite baffle chamber.

You might want a door to the entrance of the HT if you want sound isolation. Also, check to see if the furnace or h/w heater (gas?) need a volume of cubic air space to meet combustion requirements - or you might get carbon monoxide poisoning if the doors aren't louvered or other means are addressed.

I think you will want the bath, but they can be pricey. Looks like your sewage lines are in the ceiling, so you'll need a sewage pump of some sort. Those can cost.

Finally, I'd go projection over panel in my personal taste.
post #21 of 126
I love the CAD. Is there anyway to make the bathroom bigger, or extend into the room where the electrical box is? Maybe make that PART of the bathroom? One less door in your home theatre, and you avoid that "small narrow room" feeling of the storage / electrical room.

You want to have room to move stuff later if you need to swap water heaters or equipment. Make those doors 36" or two 24" ones.

The area by the stairs for storage is perfect for a cool secret space area - make it something cool =)
post #22 of 126
Also, can you post a pic looking from the other direction? I think you want a door from the office to the theatre.
post #23 of 126
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Originally Posted by BoomBoomRoom View Post

Also, can you post a pic looking from the other direction? I think you want a door from the office to the theatre.


Sure thing


post #24 of 126
maybe try moving the bathroom against the wall where the furnace is. so you would have 2 doors there and 1 door on the side. Would add a ton more usable storage. Or just kill the storage and put a wetbar in since you will already be adding drains/water for the bathroom.

Also, maybe I am blind but I did not see a brass pole anywhere......
post #25 of 126
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Also, maybe I am blind but I did not see a brass pole anywhere......

Ha ha ha ha! Will someone please show me pics of brass poles in your basement!
post #26 of 126
Well, the space has a lot of potential with the 3D rendering. Snap some chalk lines and start defining some spaces to see how the ergonomics and flow works, especially doorways and the utility room. Tape off a rough screen wall and work backwards from that in the theater area. It'll help define the best size screen. If you intend the room to be light controlled, a PJ is the better bet over flatscreen for price vs performance.
post #27 of 126
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Still planning here, I think I got my bathroom planned
Vanity will be euro style in dark wood


and the toilet will be euro wall mount
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Sure thing

LOL - I meant of the CAD - sorry!
post #29 of 126
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hot off the press, option 2

post #30 of 126
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Updated floor plan and 3D images:
http://www.3dplanview.com/jony.htm

What do you guys think?
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