First Hybrid Blu-ray / DVD title announced - Page 2

Where are people getting the idea that these will be double-sided with no disc art? The Blu-ray.com article states "'Code Blue' will feature four hybrid discs, which feature a single Blu-ray layer (25GB) and two DVD layers (9GB) on the same side of the disc."

Source: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2196

I can see why they wud make these hybrids as not everyone has BD players and if they could buy a movie which can be played on thier DVD players and then if they went out and bought a BD player a year later then they wont need to rebuy the dvd to watch it in HD.

On paper its a good idea but I dont think its going to take of as all the big movies wont get hybrid releases unless its very succesfull and there are not any huge problems with the discs.

Ugh. Unless it's 50GB with single layer DVD, I dont want it. In fact, I dont want it at all... This is a stupid idea. There will soon be $50 BD players. Just replace them as they get cheaper...

I'm with stumlad, sort of: call me when they get 50 GB BD and 7.8 GB DVD on one side of a disc that's compatible with all players. Unfortunately for this to be interesting to me they'd have to price these BDs at the same price as current BDs (in other words: no, I don't want to pay a premium for DVD compatibility). So I don't see the studios jumping all over that (they'll either want to charge me more, or they simply won't do it).

25 GB is fine for most movies, unless you throw in a lot of extras on the same disc. I'm fine with extras on a second disc.

You nailed it exactly! Guarranteed to happen.

combos/twins sucked on HD DVD and will suck on BD

let them die and burn in hell where they belong

25 GB is inadequate for anything over 90 minutes with lossless audio (or a ton of lossy dubs).

Do you know of any Japanese soap operas that are over 90 minutes and have lossless audio?

25 GB is perfectly fine for 120 minute movies, unless you like putting on a whole bunch of LPCM 7.1 tracks or whatever.

I hope it comes about as a mainstream release format. This is the fast track to achieving much higher disk sales rates and more mainstream adoption. You know the drill... Until you can play the disk in your SUV and on the player in the kids room people will continue to prefer DVD.

The only way I'd buy one of those is if it was a BD50 on one side and a DVD9 on the other (which may not be possible as outlined above), with no shortcuts on PQ and SQ. I would expect it to cost no more than the original BD would.

Until then, no ta.

Seggers

So you'd buy a BD50, but not a BD50 with free DVD5?

I would assume that if a movie required a BD50 for the BD version, it would certainly require a DVD9 for the SD version…

The DVD5 version is for the back seat in the car. When you're at home, the BD50 version is for your Blu-ray player and HDTV. And by your criteria, the extra DVD5 would be free anyway.

I'd personally would pay $2 more for a hybrid BD50/DVD5 disc though.

If these are priced at the same level as DVDs - they could easily be the biggest driver for Blu Ray adoption. All studios have to do is subsidize these by a buck or two and add a buck or two to the DVD version.

Also have the super duper 50GB Blu Ray only for those who already have transitioned to Blu Ray.

The problem is how will these disks count in our weekly DVD v. Blu Ray sales chart?

I wasn't aware you could do DVD and HD DVD on the same side!

I have one combo - TNMNT. I didn't suck! I'd have preferred both versions on the same side. I need the DVD to save on my ipod.

Yay? No.


lol...

Brandon

It will get Blu Ray into the shops at least. In the UK there are very few shops with Blu Ray on the shelves. These will save shelf space, and force the shops to sell them as a bog standard DVD if there is no other alternative.

It was a lame idea when HD DVD it and it's still a lame idea now. Sure there are a few consumers out there that would like it, but the majority it's just extra problems and expense (and giving up possible quality/features for it) for something they don't necessarily need.

If studios really want to give people the ability to watch in multiple different kinds of players, just include a bare-bones DVD copy of the movie as well. It would, in all likelihood, be cheaper production wise and wouldn't sacrifice anything from the BD. That way, they can also make the normal version without the included DVD and give us normal consumers the option to buy only what we need/want. Just charge $5 more for the "special edition" with the DVD copy - do away with the stupid "digital" copies and replace it with a real DVD.

I can't imagine it catching on though, it seems to me most studios realized it caused more problems than it really solved.

The studios will not adopt this. They want you to re-buy when you go blu.

Eh, no, it's not. With 25 GB the video bitrate has to be compromised to accommodate the decreased space. With 50 GB there is no such compromise (or at least it's not necessary).

As I don't watch BDs anywhere else but in my PS3, then yes, I'd rather buy the BD knowing that I am less likely to have problems with it.

Seggers

They might use it for TV show releases...??? It would make sense for single-inventory TV shows.

Also, I have a theory - once a combo format is introduced into the market, 12-18 months later the hi-res format dies.

I pray this "dualdisc" lives a long life and eventual death in the R&D stage...

At the max bitrate of 48.0 Mbit/s a 120 minute movie would use 42.1875 GB, so I agree with you completely.

If we expect studios to do "superbit" style encodes, anything over 70 minutes would require a BD50, and anything over 140 minutes would require multiple disks.

This is the approach that should be taken IMO.

There is absolutely no justification for running an entire movie at full mux the whole way through. None whatsoever.

No second guessing the encode (other than the skill of the compressionist) is a big one I can think of. I'd also compare it to buying a race car. If you're not going to race, don't waste your time. If the bandwidth is there, you might as well use it, even with diminishing returns. Since when did man need justification to do something?

Empty space is wasted space. Don't really need to worry about scratches taking out data instead of blank space. There may of been yield problems with the last few gigabytes but they should be fixed by now. It saves the encoder some time since they only have to do 1 pass.

i don't mind sindle layer bd with dvd
or duallayer bd with dvd
as long as either they extra behind the camera scenes on 480i/p resolution
or even better with compressed movie on dvd side may be 720p resolution