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post #31 of 97
12/21/08 at 5:28am
Don't buy any new FOX movies. Due to their high prices its pretty easy.
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post #32 of 97
12/21/08 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

This XMas people are buying the S350, BD35 and the PS3 , those are the 3 most popular model. They even wrote an article about Chinese company (Funai for example that procude the Insignia and other brand) being frustrated.

Being frustrated about what? About people preferring name brands? Or not enough people buying their unit? Do you have a link to the article?

P.S. I have both the S350 and the Funai (Insignia NS-BRDVD). Forgetting about the differing profiles for the moment, I actually prefer the Funai. It's a faster player. What concerns me though is that Funai has NEVER issued a BD firmware release, and judging by my disk compatibility thread, it does need one.
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post #33 of 97
12/21/08 at 6:59am
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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

Actually, they aren't. I'm willing to bet that Fox would be willing to constantly create new BD+ virtual machines and keep a few around all the time. When one is cracked they can immediately put the new one into production. What this does is it constantly delays cracking, such that people who want the new release now instead of waiting months for the pirates the crack it will just buy it because it's easier.

Copy protection and DRM are not and have never been about preventing piracy, they are about delaying piracy until the initial release window, where most of sales and profits are mode, is over.

won't help anyway since they can capture straight from HDMI regardless

I also saw BD rips for most of these titles before the street date

it's clearly a huge waste of resources
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post #34 of 97
12/21/08 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy View Post

Being frustrated about what? About people preferring name brands? Or not enough people buying their unit? Do you have a link to the article?

P.S. I have both the S350 and the Funai (Insignia NS-BRDVD). Forgetting about the differing profiles for the moment, I actually prefer the Funai. It's a faster player. What concerns me though is that Funai has NEVER issued a BD firmware release, and judging by my disk compatibility thread, it does need one.

About the fact that full brand name are within the same price range as Chinese brand. On DVD when it happen DVD where 199$-299$ Chinese were 100$ than 50, than 30$ and brand name where still 150$. Now Sony is close to 199$ and it's the same price as the 'not discounted' Funai. Witch offer 0 support right now. Again you can get a Durabrand for 30$ at Walmart (DVD) or a Toshiba at 99$ ..
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post #35 of 97
12/21/08 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by shawnmos View Post

Target is selling the Olevia player for $150 and even if a player is no longer being produced, so what? Does that mean they should no longer be able to play blu-rays?

Well almost, if the CE never update the firware for BD+ (seems to be the problems on a lot of players since FOX just changed the software on disc) then the disc won't play at all. If they offer an FW then ok.. it's all good..
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post #36 of 97
12/21/08 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

About the fact that full brand name are within the same price range as Chinese brand. On DVD when it happen DVD where 199$-299$ Chinese were 100$ than 50, than 30$ and brand name where still 150$. Now Sony is close to 199$ and it's the same price as the 'not discounted' Funai. Witch offer 0 support right now. Again you can get a Durabrand for 30$ at Walmart (DVD) or a Toshiba at 99$ ..

I bought my RCA DVD player in 1998 for US$299. It also came with an exclusive DVD title, one that had not been released yet for retail. There were zero Chinese-branded players in North America at the time.
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post #37 of 97
12/21/08 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

Actually, they aren't. I'm willing to bet that Fox would be willing to constantly create new BD+ virtual machines and keep a few around all the time. When one is cracked they can immediately put the new one into production. What this does is it constantly delays cracking, such that people who want the new release now instead of waiting months for the pirates the crack it will just buy it because it's easier.

Copy protection and DRM are not and have never been about preventing piracy, they are about delaying piracy until the initial release window, where most of sales and profits are mode, is over.

Since the "black market" gets a hold of movies weeks if not months before retail release, they still have plenty of time to crack it. It's dumb and it causes a lot of unnecessary problems for those who actually legally purchase their movies.
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post #38 of 97
12/21/08 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by William View Post

I bought my sister and brother in-law a Memorex MVBD-2510 for Xmas. Now what do I do?

They have already released one firmware update. They will probably release another one.
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post #39 of 97
12/21/08 at 3:47pm
watched the new x-files movie on my magnavox- no problems (except the movie itself stinking).
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post #40 of 97
12/22/08 at 5:38am
Firefly the series played fine on my Magnavox (Funai) player.
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post #41 of 97
12/22/08 at 5:48am
So, is this BD+ the 2nd generation BD+ or 3rd? I haven't been keeping up.

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Originally Posted by ShagMan View Post

Firefly the series played fine on my Magnavox (Funai) player.

Added to the Funai disc tracking thread. Thx.

This little player seems to be doing very well in general.
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post #42 of 97
12/22/08 at 7:18am
I hope In the Name of the King never plays on my Samsung.
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post #43 of 97
12/22/08 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

it's clearly a huge waste of resources

Not from their viewpoint. With this action, they've successfully killed AnyDVD HD and Slysoft estimates it will take at least 2-3 months for them to add support for the new BD+ protection.
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post #44 of 97
12/22/08 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

It's dumb and it causes a lot of unnecessary problems for those who actually legally purchase their movies.

This. It's still what I would consider the biggest pitfall of Blu-ray, ie. compatibility issues. Some of these studios aren't helping the format toward mass adoption with their ongoing use of draconian DRM.
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post #45 of 97
12/22/08 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by DeathKnight View Post

This. It's still what I would consider the biggest pitfall of Blu-ray, ie. compatibility issues. Some of these studios aren't helping the format toward mass adoption with their ongoing use of draconian DRM.

Agreed.
Has anyone tried these movies on the Sharp players yet?
J
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post #46 of 97
12/22/08 at 8:25pm
I just picked up an Insignia NS-2BRDVD and it will not play Space Chimps. Does anyone know if there is some sort of update for this player? I couldn't find anything online. Damn thing is that i really wanted to get X-files and Firefly....oh well.
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post #47 of 97
12/22/08 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by spawnshop View Post

I just picked up an Insignia NS-2BRDVD and it will not play Space Chimps. Does anyone know if there is some sort of update for this player? I couldn't find anything online. Damn thing is that i really wanted to get X-files and Firefly....oh well.

Try asking in the hardware forum.. Hope there is a fix for you. This is why DRM stinks.
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post #48 of 97
12/22/08 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by Mr Magic View Post

Not from their viewpoint. With this action, they've successfully killed AnyDVD HD and Slysoft estimates it will take at least 2-3 months for them to add support for the new BD+ protection.

they don't care about people making backups on their servers, they care about pirates distributing the movies

a new version of BD+ doesn't help in the latter at all as shown by most of those titles being available of sharing sites before the release dates
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post #49 of 97
12/22/08 at 8:49pm
this is a clear example of why the ps3 is the player to use until we get a few more years into the format
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post #50 of 97
12/23/08 at 1:06am
I could only find a 1/3 of the list on newsgr... on the news so its working.
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post #51 of 97
12/23/08 at 5:16am
OP should add the PlayStation 3 to the list of supported playback devices, I can confirm some of the movies listed play fine on it.
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post #52 of 97
12/23/08 at 5:29am
All of the lists is no problem with Pioneer bdp.LX70a(95FD),LX71(05FD),SONY S-350.
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post #53 of 97
12/23/08 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by spawnshop View Post

I just picked up an Insignia NS-2BRDVD and it will not play Space Chimps. Does anyone know if there is some sort of update for this player? I couldn't find anything online. Damn thing is that i really wanted to get X-files and Firefly....oh well.

Also have the NS-2BRDVD and Futurama: Bender's Game doesn't work either.
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post #54 of 97
12/24/08 at 5:06pm
got a Sharp BD-HP21U. Xfiles 2 plays fine; although this movie loads very slowly.
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post #55 of 97
12/25/08 at 1:14pm
Sharp BD-HP21U. Home Alone doesn't play at all. Some movies, such as The Longest Day, and Dr No, will load after a long time, but upon playing the movie will either lock up, or not play sound. Sharp gave us the line of "thanks for telling us about these discs but we don't know when/if it'll be fixed". Hopefully Amazon will let us exchange for one of the more reliable players listed above.
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post #56 of 97
12/25/08 at 5:07pm
According to people who have contributed to my Funai disc tracking thread, the Magnavox NB500MG9 can play:

Firefly, X-Files, X-Files 2.

This player is also known as the Insignia NS-BRDVD (which is the Funai-made model previous to the newer yet reportedly problematic Desay-made 2NS-BRDVD), and also known as both the Sylvania NB500SL9 and NB501SL9. The reports came from people specifically who own the Magnavox version though.
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post #57 of 97
12/25/08 at 6:33pm
I have a Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray player. X Files 2 will not play. I guess I will take the player back to Best Buy where I bought it less than a year ago and see if there is an update available. This is the first disc that I have bought or rented that would not play on this player.
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post #58 of 97
12/25/08 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

they don't care about people making backups on their servers

What planet are you living on? The MPAA and RIAA are very much against home users making "backups".
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post #59 of 97
12/25/08 at 9:36pm
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Originally Posted by priesttb View Post

I have a Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray player. X Files 2 will not play. I guess I will take the player back to Best Buy where I bought it less than a year ago and see if there is an update available. This is the first disc that I have bought or rented that would not play on this player.

There is a new firmware for your player (version 4.40 posted 12/17/08), On Sony's website.
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post #60 of 97
12/26/08 at 10:30am
I talked to Insignia, they are planning a firmware update in "early 2009" for the NS-2BRDVD.

Can't believe they bundled the thing with Fox movies for a Holiday special.
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