My Pal #1 has problems. Either both tuners died or the signal is not getting to them. Worse than that, trying to fix it, I may have killed it. Here's what happened ...
I believe, I had just finished watching a recording, deleted it and then either I returned to live TV or noticed that the little live TV screen froze and then went to live TV. In either case, the picture had some pixelization and was frozen. Plus, now the pal did not respond to other commands - change channel, DVR, menu - it was locked-up, so I did a soft reboot.
It took longer than usual for the pal to go into reboot and when it finally did, it got stuck on the loading please wait screen. So i pulled the plug and then restarted. Got stuck on, loading please wait. Pulled the plug again, disconnected the antenna and restarted. This time it completed startup and I was able to play recordings. Killed power, connected antenna and restart. Successful restart but no channels, no reception. Tried swapping out antenna cable, then switched with pal #2 - pal-2 worked fine, pal-1 no channels. So, pretty sure problem is in Pal #1.
Next, connected cable from pal-1 antenna-OUT to TV antenna-IN to test bypass. TV gets all channels. Pal-1 nothing.
I also created two manual times, at the same time, to activate both tuners. Both skipped, failure to start - so I believe both tuners died or the signal is not getting to them.
Then I made what may be the fatal mistake. I have followed this thread from the start which is how I knew to disconnect the antenna to get out of the "loading please wait" screen. I also recall reading that the pal needs at least one channel stored to startup. So, the first time I thought about doing a factory reset - I did not do it.
Unfortunately, after trying everything else, I was going through the menus looking for anomalies, saw Factory Defaults and thought, I tried everything else. Has soon as I pressed, yes - I remembered the one channel thing - but too late. With no reception, it could not get past the - point antenna/continue screen - so I pulled the plug. Now when plugged-in, nothing, a green light but nothing else. No loading please wait, no menu, no access to recordings.
The fan does run and the pal was not hot when this happened. I had opened, cleaned and setup an external HD in January 2013.
I got this pal in January 2009, from Dish, the only option then. It has been updated with F202, 206, 207 and finally F208 since July 2009.
If there is anything else I can try please let me know. I snapped-off the tabs when I removed the HD so opening the case will be easy.