The Official AVS Dish DTVPal DVR Topic! - Page 254

Reset to Factory Defaults fixed missing TVGoS on BOTH my DVRs! Thanks to frank70 for the tip!

I've been reading in this forum that some DTVPal DVR owners are experiencing problems with changing times and DST issues. Some of these posters do not specify what version of the DTVPal DVR software they are using. If you are not running F208 it would be a good idea to do the update to minimize any time or DST issues, especially if you are not getting TVGOS in your area and are relying on PSIP only.

From Dish technical support, time and DST issues were improved in F208 as follows: "Improved handling for inaccurate PSIP time sources, using a weighted mean calculation to select the correct time. Also added guards to handle daylight savings transitions being signalled incorrectly."

Make sure your TV is off before turning the DVR on. Some LCDs (SAMSUNG for one) interfer with the remote ON function. Once the DVR is on then the remote works.

Since it stopped after you moved it, it may be broke but this is worth a try if you have an LCD TV.

I still don't have TVGOS after it went away a couple of months ago. After you did the reset to factor defaults did you go back and delete all the channels then rescan? I ask because the reset to factory defaults clears all the channels but I think the post said to delete the channels. Did you set your preferences before TVGOS came up? After the reset (about a week ago) I didn't even get TVGOS time.

What channels to you get (are you sure you are getting TVGOS from WHIO)?

What ZIPCODE are you using? I use my home and the station's (45420) and neither works.

There's a small fan inside too. You could be hearing that. Do you know what OS version it has?

This is a long shot but did you accidentally change from the PAL to another function on the top buttons of the remote? Make sure it's on PAL not AUX or TV etc. Also did you check the batteries?

That's a very good suggestion. It can happen to anybody, and did happen to me last December when I had only had mine a couple of days.

I've been using F208 since the end of August, so all of these DST related timer problems still exist in F208.

Right now I have programs scheduled to start next week at 9:00 and end at 8:30 (std) after recording for 1/2 hour. Don't know what they will actually do.

F208

I find it amusing reading people bashing or complaining about the Pal messing up the time.

Well from my experience with 4 different converter boxes this is a universal issue and it has to do with the time being sent to the box from the transmitters. Even after correcting the hour it reverted back as soon as I turn on the converter box.

Don't blame the Pal DVR. Well Ok blame it but understand this is a universal problem.

For years, when I used analog TVGOS with my Panasonic DVD recorder I never had clock issues. A-TVGOS signal always set the proper time. It seems clear that digital TVGOS is still a bit of a train wreck. It may take a couple years post digital transition for everything to stabilize and work properly. That includes the D-TVGOS signal throughout the country and the Pal DVR's ability to properly handle it.

To clarify, the "DST" issue I had wasn't related to DST. There was just an odd "DST" superscript in the timer menu. A single channel would have it listed for one timer, but not another. Very strange, but both timers recorded as they should.

The problem I had was with a ghost timer in the daily log. There was no corresponding timer set under the "timers." sometimes it would interfere with my actual recordings - even though the event log showed it wouldn't. (For example, the ghost timer coincided with two other shows i was recording. It seemed to recorded one of the shows for two hours (it started an hour early).

The factory reset so far seems to have eliminated the ghost timer. TVGOS finally reappeared and I restored just about all my timers (a couple are screwed up because of the baseball games). However, its only be 1 day, so we'll see. The "DST" superscript is not appearing in the daily log anywhere, now. Again, one day so far, so we'll see what happens in a few.

F208....

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Best Buy has it on sale this week and I'd like to upgrade my drive ASAP so I can get all the World Series games.

All of mine recorded fine last night (granted the actual shows were re-runs). No DST issue with mine in Austin, TX. The timer on my porch light...well...it doesn't understand the new DST rules of the last couple of years, so it was off. DTVPal DVR dead on, no issues.

Greetings: I have 2 units, purchased from Sears online within the past month. The only problems I have experienced so far would be that the close captioning is often garbled ( I checked to verify that the cc works fine on the TV), and this morning the manual timer I have scheduled for Mon - Fri dissapeared. I only use manual timers, although I get TVGOS. Also, the units occassionally adds channels that are out of range, but locking them out seems to work. Aside from these issues I am delighted with having a HD DVR! Yes, I would love for them to work without any problems, but I would still recommend this unit....only because there is no other HD recorder available.

I had the input on my tv on the wrong selection. When I switched it I found out why the remote wasn't causing the led's to flash. I am now stuck on the 'please wait to load' screen. That is where I'm stuck and I have tried all remedies, still stuck. Hope someone finds an answer soon.

They indicate that I am the only one in the Dayton area who has a problem getting TVGOS data but I will pass this excerpt from an email I got from ROVI in case anyone is interested.

We have worked out the issue at WHIO, to where our equipment is only offline for a couple of hours in the early evening. TVGOS data is going out overnight into the morning and early afternoon. We have no other complaints of OTA TVGOS consumers not getting data.

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I now have TVGOS time but no program data yet.

I'm not really sure if the TV stations can be blamed for the DST issue. I say this because each time I had timer problems, only Monday timers were affected, not Sunday timers. DST always kicks in Sunday morning, so one would think that the Sunday timers would be affected too.

Has anyone had Sunday timers altered the past two weeks, or just Monday?

WELL THE FACTORY RESET DIDN'T FIX THE GHOST TIMER ISSUEs.

Took less than 24hours for my timers to get screwed up. I am not at the DVR so I don't have the specifics yet. But I set had set it up to record 3 shows in a row on Tues night. At least one of them was screwed up. And apparently it is screwing up the timers for Thursday too. Not sure what else. Don't know when I'll get to the box yet. Not sure if the "DST" superscript is back or not.

Still running F208, still do not recommend this box.

Here is a new one, somehow there are two timers for the same channel and time. I noticed this today when I went to watch the show, and there were two of the same show. I remember setting a new timer because the old timer disappeared.

I have had a problem with timers deleting themselves from this channel for a while, it seems like if there is no signal when the timer is set, it will delete the timer. The only problem is that it is a MON - FRI timer, not a One Time timer. I hope that this problem will go away now that they increased the power for this channel.

I had this happen a couple weeks ago. It cleared up on its own.

I'm down the road in the Burg. and I've had TVGOS info for about a month now since they fix the WHIO issue.

I had been without TVGOS in the Dayton area for the past month, waiting either for it to show back up on my Pal, or for confirmation that WHIO had reactivated their TVGOS signal.

After seeing confirmation on another forum that WHIO's TVGOS encoder was back online, I tried a factory reset Monday afternoon. I had the full TVGOS guide back on my Pal by Tuesday morning.

I don't know if Dish Network plans to release any more firmware updates, given that they feel the unit is "ready for prime time", but I think any future updates should address automatic recovery of TVGOS reception after the transmitting station has a temporary shutdown or glitch. Once the box has been successfully receiving TVGOS data it should detect when the signal is being transmitted again and repopulate the guide automatically.

It is awful that a user has to do a factory reset to get TVGOS back! You never know if your loss of TVGOS was due to a problem with your unit or the station, and if it's the station, whether the signal is back online yet or not.

Thanks for letting me vent!

Ken

Yea, I've been experiencing this with the "ghost timer" for several weeks now and I believe a few others as well. Reset doesn't clear it. If you delete the timer for that slot, it just moves to another, apparently random, time slot.
I reset to factory defaults, which clears everything except the recordings. Problem came back.

And, THE PROBLEM DOES NOT GO AWAY by waiting for the ghost timer to execute. I first let the week run thru its timers, and it reappeared even though there was no corresponding recurring event in the timers page.

'loading please wait' stuck on this screen. Any help!!

Has anyone in Mpls, Mn area getting more that 12-24 hours og guide data on FOX yet?

I wish it would come back or if there was a way to get it back.

Any thoughts from anybody?

Thanks

Jay

What firmware version is installed in your box?

Will,

I reset to Factory Defaults and followed the directions, as in starting up the unit just out-of-box. I set all my preferences and timers just after that. No, I didn't delete any of the channels it found after the reset. I programmed my zip, 45415, and within 12 hours had a fully populated guide--a week's data--for the Dayton stations.

Paul

firmware was I think 206