Subwoofers from the Speaker Company - Page 4

Yes, it would not matter.

I wish I felt qualified to answer that.

Appearance wise I would say it is ok+. It doesn't wow but it looks reasonably slick and feels solid. It is a strong sucker, probably more than I need as I have driven my girlfriend from the room twice already just messing with it. She was shoving clothes against bedroom door to try to get away.

As far as sound goes it doesn't sound hollow or boomy. I wish I could tell if it is 'responsive' but lacking the experience and any other quality sub to test side by side I can't unfortunately give much more information.

You have to understand that this is an upgrade from a htib and my first 'real' set of speakers so a baby and a cat banging pots together would have been an improvement.

What else would I want to listen for or what else can I try to do for ya?

That response was excellent as is! I got a healthy laugh from it at a time I could use it! I'm working on a downed server and it tried to ruin my day so thanks.

Ok, you say it's not boomy and that was the big thing I was checking for. Many times people mistake boom for bass. If it sounds tight and not present at all times, just when you're supposed to hear it that is a very very good thing.

I have the T300 and I have been very impressed with it. It is not boomy in the least. I have found that what I like about this sub is the fact that I feel the bass more than I hear it. It is very tight, and after having it hooked up for over a month now it sounds like it is really hitting its groove. I am about 70% movies/20% gaming/10% music. I am using it in a room that is roughly 20 x 17 and it fits my needs well. I came off from an older Cerwin Vega that had performed well for many years, but since having the T300 hooked up I am convinced I was missing a lot from the CW. About the only thing I am contemplating is adding a second one, but the wife doesn't think we need the house to shake that much, so that's still up in the air. I am looking forward to hearing some reviews from some of the big boys on how these subs do against their tests, but it has been a winner for me!

The grill won't matter.

About how far was the meter from the sub and did you point it at one of the woofers or the front where the port is? Looks like the T-300 has a bit more staying power below 23 Hz than the T-250, which it should. Remember that yours are uncorrected numbers (see http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=505236) and depending on which RatShack meter you have, the numbers are below the actual output.

This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks. I plan on replacing a Klipsch KSW-300 which does an ample job of thumping my living room with an SVS PB13-Ultra but that will be a little while before I can get the wife on board.

For my secondary system I'm using a Marantz SR-18EX Ultra, Klipsch KSF 10.5 mains, KSF C5 center and Polk Monitor 5's as surrounds with no subwoofer so the T300 or VK-12 was going to be the one I look for to fill that void, but honestly the T250 might do just as well and saves me $125.00 that can go towards the PB13...

BUT, I think I like the T300 most of all based on yours and others input for SR-18 system and I'd probably regret buying the smaller sub later on.

I think you'll be happy enough with the T250. You should do what I should have done and order both the T250 & T300 and return the one you don't want.

Thanks for your input and posting the pics of the T250. I'm gonna scoop one up as soon as they're available in Canada....

It did stick around a bit below 23hz but it was not very present at 19hz which is the bottom of the advertised response range.

Firstly I have the analog meter. I placed the meter about 5 feet away from the sub pointing towards a woofer(somewhat behind the sub such that the port was on the far side) and the meter was resting on a hardwood table. I then adjusted the volume so that 40hz was 80db and then started dropping the hz and recording numbers. I am using the LFE connection with the receiver crossover at 80hz and the subs freq turned to the highest hz(which shouldn't matter for this anyways?).

To provide some more 'refined' or correct numbers what steps would you take to measure the spl?

Additionally if I were to place it in a corner what 'general' configuration would you put the sub considering it is side firing.

Regarding the possible input options available. I have the option for the hi-level speaker wire input. Should I use the LFE or double connect the hi-level at the receiver to go to the speakers and to the sub?

To KlipschHead281 glad I was able to give you a laugh. The VK-12 is a bit bigger than the T300 which to me would matter. Then again I look at these subs and think that a bigger box is generally a more efficient way of creating bass. I will try to give some more feedback once I get a chance to shuffle it around and set it up.

I'm planning to replace my Onkyo HTiB sub in the next few months, and was originally planning to upgrade to the SVS PC12-NSD. I've been pretty impressed with the numbers and feedback on the T300. The 30 day return policy also makes this tempting. Has anyone heard both of them for comparison? I'm running Polk Monitors with about 75% movies 25% music in a 26x11 room with 2 openings. Size isn't a big issue, I was looking at the cylinder style more because of the lower weight.

Honestly, I'd join hometheatershack.com and download RoomEQWizard (all free) and use your RadioShack meter as the microphone. you can find adjustment configuration files for your meter on the site too. that way when you do the measurements it's all been corrected. the only expense will be for a couple of lengthy RCA cables and miniPlug/RCA adapters, all of which can be found at RadioShack. Having a laptop helps too unless your PC/Mac is in the same room.

If instead you want to see a table, here's an accepted set of adjustments:

10Hz	+20.5
12.5Hz	+16.5
16Hz	+11.5
20Hz	+7.5
25Hz	+5
31.5Hz	+3
40Hz	+2.5
50Hz	+1.5
63Hz	+1.5
80Hz	+1.5
100Hz	+2
125Hz	+0.5
160Hz	-0.5
200Hz	-0.5
250Hz	+0.5

I am about the t250, but I thought that I'd heard somewhere that it consumes a lot of power in standby mode (around 11w) - does anyone have any information on this. Otherwise the performance and value seem to be hard to pass up.

I was looking into getting the ASW-8 from TSC..I have a carpeted floor so with that said, This is a downfiring sub. Will the carpet just block the sound??

Do you want answers now or do you want good answers in a week

In the interest of now I have done the following.
I pulled the sub out more towards the middle of the room, no walls within 5 feet.
I placed the meter on a pile of paper 3-feet from the woofer.
I then corrected with the values.

16Hz 77.5db
20Hz 79.0db
25Hz 84.0db
31.5Hz 83.5db
40Hz 93.5db

Now why is 40hz twice as loud as 31.5hz?! If it weren't for 40hz I would think that was a pretty awesome response curve. I have the receiver crossover at 80hz and the sub crossover turned up to maximum.

When I have the time I will grab the program and some cables to make a nice pretty chart.

My Elemental Designs A2-300 consumes 13W during standby. I think most subs would consume somewhere around 10W to 15W.

i've been reading the t300 threads and it seems like an awesome sub. im upgrading from an older onkyo htib set. im pretty new to this stuff but i want to get the best bang for the buck.

i know that the t300 is a dual sub layout but i don't know anything about the pros/cons of subs with dual drivers versus single. i ordered a t300 a couple days ago to check out on my onkyo 606 . im pairing this up with an energy c-300 5.1 (on the way).

besides the t300, im thinking about the pa-120 because there's been lots of good things written about it.

So I've been looking at the ASW-10 to round out my new speakers.

Per The Speaker Company website, they're sold out: http://www.thespeakercompany.com/ASW...er-P62C17.aspx

But cruising through Amazon yesterday, they say they have the ASW-10 in stock: http://www.amazon.com/The-Speaker-Co...5589028&sr=8-2

They're selling it for the same $149.97, but not including the free shipping. What's the deal with this? Is the free shipping and 30 day return period only though tSc website? Or is this a case of Amazon saying they have the ASW-10 but they have to get it from tSc - but if they're sold out will Amazon be able to fulfill my order?

Just looking for some clarity. Thanks...

TSC uses amazon for fulfillment. I did not order through Amazon however, so I'm not sure about the shipping charges. But even if you order straight from the tsc website you'll receive an amazon order fullfillment email. I would get ahold of Nick at tsc and ask him what's up, he's the gm and is very prompt at responding to emails, you can find his contact info on the tsc website or in the forums there.

i decided on the T300 last week and got it 2 days ago. i've been watching a movie every night and listening to music much more often since i've got it. the sound is just amazing. coming from someone who is quite new to this audio scene, it seems that even my old movies have been giving new life. after the calibrating and misc tweaking, the bass feels like its coming from all directions. i guess this is was 'immersion' sounds like.

just for kicks, from all i've been reading here, i bumped it up after all the tweaks (onkyo 606), and things around the house started vibrating like crazy. im the middle occupant of a couple 2 story townhouses and i bet my neighbors thought it was an earthquake aftershock. i have yet to watch kfp, iron man, incredible hulk, or any of the other recommended movies but 'House of the Flying Dagger' sounded awesome, especially during the echo game scene. i couldn't stop grinning.

im was really impressed. now just waiting for my set of energys and my new tv.

Great review! When you get around to it, kfp is pretty cool.

Kfp?

Kung Fu Panda

Yeah, because every other thread in the Subwoofer forum that asks "What subwoofer should I get" or "Should I get subwoofer A or B" is always answered with "Don't get that....get SVS, eD, etc, etc, etc"

Exactly! I kind of got tired of hearing about all of the better known brands. There is something to be said when you buy a well known brand, but I have personally found that sometimes it's worth giving something new a shot to help them build a good reputation if they are delivering a solid product. I felt the same way about the Aperion line of speakers, they are just too expensive for my wallet. I am interested to see what tsc does on their nex gen of speakers, if they will redesign things a little as they did with the sub line. But I am really happy with my T300, and am going to order a second one soon.

Thanks both for the purchase and the measurements.

Nick
tSc

Hey Nick, you'll get a few more purchases when you guys start delivering to Canada

I have a t300 coming this week myself,I hope I am happy with it.

Please let us know what you think when you get it and hook it up!

I missed FedEx by about 30 minutes trying to deliver my ASW-10 this afternoon. 24 more hours before I get to report on my new sub and the incredible shopping experience I had with tSc. I can't wait. More later...