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post #121 of 263
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Originally Posted by scarpi View Post

Yeah I've got pics but they are too large and are being rejected when I go to post them. So I need to figure out how to make them smaller. Sorry. I'm not the most computer literate person.

load them to photobucket.com first.
post #122 of 263
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post

Heres a more dedicated forum to the Sonus for ya buddy...
http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...5&page=1&pp=35

Not much activity over there!!

I'm contemplating new Cremona M or 10 year old Amati Hommage, they are at the same price point. Which would be the better buy?
post #123 of 263
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Originally Posted by gulliBELL View Post

Not much activity over there!!

I'm contemplating new Cremona M or 10 year old Amati Hommage, they are at the same price point. Which would be the better buy?

Audioaficionado.org is the best place to talk about Sonus Faber. They have a very active group and the eastern regional sales rep posts there as well.
post #124 of 263
Well today was a big auditioning day for me.

I went to visit two of the biggest audiophile stores here in Montreal (Canada).

As some of you might have read in a seperate thread I created a couple of weeks ago, I was looking into purchasing a decent stereo system to listen music with in a small dedicated music room (12'6" x 10').

I have a budget of 5,000-6,000$ CAD (roughly the same in US since dollar is almost at parity)

I auditioned many brands:

- Totem Acoustic Hawk & Forest models
- B&W
- Focal Chorus 816v and 826v
- PSB Synchrony Two
- Sonus Faber Toy and Homage (way out of my budget on the latter!!!)
- Paradigm
- Martin Logan electrostatics
- Proac

Many were way over my budget, I even listened to a 180,000$ system that was INSANE literally, comprised of Sonus Faber Homage speaker series 35,000$ and expensive tube amps, blablabla. That was amazing.

But the main focus was my budget.

The one setup that stood out the most to me, was Sonus Faber Toy series floorstandings paired with Rega Brio3 amp and Rega Apollo cd player. I could get all that gear for 4,960$ CAD tax in and it even played hip hop amazingly well in the low end.

I listened to many recordings including female vocals (Acintha, Jennifer Warnes, Rebecca Pidgeon, Norah Jones and Patricia Barber), many instrumental CDs and even a bit of hip hop (to see if the system was versatile, because I like hip hop too). It played all of the above in an incredible manner.

One speaker I clearly crossed out were the Focal Chorus 826v. No way.

I also enjoyed Totem Hawk floorstandings on the same electronics as above, although the amp was the Rega Elicit.

I am pretty focused on getting the Sonus Faber Toys and wanted to know your opinions before I jump the gun, because unless I missed something, they were the clear winner to my ear and personal taste.

The build quality is amazing and they seemed to be very musical and "warm" sounding speakers, natural sound, not muddy like the Focals or other brands...

Plus they were driven perfectly by an amp like the Rega Brio3 which is only 49w rms/channel (but clean power).

They recommend 20-100w (8-ohm) for that speaker so it seems easy to drive.

Let me know what you think...
post #125 of 263
Read my post above
post #126 of 263
OrangeVee, It sounds like you personally auditioned many reputable speakers with your own ears. I would let your ears be the judge. Do some more research and get some more opinions but everyone is going to have different preferences. If it were me, I would make another trip on a different day with an open mind, and if you come up with the same preference...you have your answer.
post #127 of 263
I'm very biased as I own the original sonus faber grand piano (and can't afford anything I like better) and think the new toy and luito line are awesome sounding speakers. To my ears, sonus faber is one of the few brands of speakers that really sound like someone is in the room singing in front of me instead of a playback system. That being said, they do have a unique sound to them but it sounds like it works for your ears. Please note that you should spend some time (or have your dealer do it) and effort setting them up as sonus faber speakers benefit from doing it properly.
post #128 of 263
I have a question for you guys, as far as powering the Sonus Faber Toys speakers...

For 1,856$ (tax in., CAD $) I get the Rega Brio3 integrated amp and the Rega Apollo cd-player.

For 2,300$ CAD tax in shipped to my house, I get:
Emotiva XPA-2 amp
Emotiva ERC-1 cd player
Emotiva USP-1 preamp

For 400$ difference, which isn't alot, I'm getting much more power...

But supposedly that Rega equipment is good quality. My ears sure told me so.

But it feels "weird" paying 1,900$ for 49w rms of power (8-ohm) vs 2,300$ for 300w rms of power (8-ohm)...

What do you guys think?

The Rega equipment really gave the music a warm feel and was very musical.

Which combination of electronics would give me better sound quality in the end?

And is 300w rms too much power for a speaker demanding 20-100w max?
post #129 of 263
For years (until I stupidly sold it for some unknown reason) I used a primare i20 to drive the grand pianos I own. These are more difficult to drive and I believe the i20 is rated at 50wpc or maybe a whopping 70wpc. I have limited personal experience with emotiva so I won't comment (I had a client use their amp to drive a pair of Martin Logan Vantage). The grand pianos worked wonderfully with the i20, I never could use it more then half way up. With the toy speakers, they are easier to power. You will have two camps on this...the "all amps are the same" and "amps will make a huge difference". I don't know the rega personally but I liked the stereophile review of it. I don't like that it doesn't have a remote, that is a deal breaker for me personally.

How much is the rega unit? According to stereophile, the amp's MSRP is $650 US, how much is that CD player? I'd personally be inclined towards a Primare i21 + a ~$300-$500 cd player
post #130 of 263
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Originally Posted by the rick View Post

How much is the rega unit? According to stereophile, the amp's MSRP is $650 US, how much is that CD player? I'd personally be inclined towards a Primare i21 + a ~$300-$500 cd player

Well here in Canada, the Rega Brio3 retails for 795$ CAD and the Rega Apollo cd player retails for 1295$.

I would be able to get the Apollo for 895$ and the Brio3 for 750$ (because buying the Sanus Faber speakers worth 3,000$ CAD here and speaker wires, RCA cables, banana connectors, etc...)
post #131 of 263
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Originally Posted by Orangevee View Post

Well here in Canada, the Rega Brio3 retails for 795$ CAD and the Rega Apollo cd player retails for 1295$.

I would be able to get the Apollo for 895$ and the Brio3 for 750$ (because buying the Sanus Faber speakers worth 3,000$ CAD here and speaker wires, RCA cables, banana connectors, etc...)

It sounds like you have found the system that will work well for you. My only suggestion is to stay away from high priced cables and connectors. I would recommend Bluejeans or Monoprice for affordable quality cables and connectors. I also agree that you could save a little more by going with a more affordable CD player. I doubt you could honestly hear the difference between a quality $500 CD player and a $1300 one.

I would not feel obligated in the least to buy high priced cables from your dealer. You will already be dropping some serious cash on some very nice components. I would use the money not spent on the high priced cables for some new music.

Bill
post #132 of 263
Hi guys,

I just received my Sonus Faber Toy tower speakers.

They sound great!

Does anyone have advice as to their placement? My other speaker company had recommendations as to distance apart, distance from rear wall, etc. But these, other than toe in, don't mention anything in the manual...
post #133 of 263
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Originally Posted by Orangevee View Post

Hi guys,

I just received my Sonus Faber Toy tower speakers.

They sound great!

Does anyone have advice as to their placement? My other speaker company had recommendations as to distance apart, distance from rear wall, etc. But these, other than toe in, don't mention anything in the manual...

Try this:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Vd3bqw55QtzX_Q
post #134 of 263
Ok, I noticed that they mentioned the speakers have to be at least 80 cm from rear or side walls, plus have to be between 1.5 meter to 2.5 meters apart.

I could do the 80 cm from the rear wall, but I'm loosing a lot of room space by doing that... Is it really THAT bad if I back up my speakers to one foot off the rear wall?
post #135 of 263
Hi Orangvee,

New to this thread and Sonus Faber Speakers.
A couple months ago I bought Sonus Faber Toy towers,
Toy center, and Toy bookshelfs as surrounds. Great speakers in
IMO and the most most pleasing speakers I have heard for the price.

Although new to this thread, I've been in audio for over 35 years,
and have had lots (too many) speakers, and the Toys I consider to
be some of the best.

I run mine off a Pioneer Elite as a pre and an old ATI 150W power amp,
which I will probably replace when I have the funds. The system sounds great.

Mine sound best when when towers placed 2 feet from the rear wall, but you could
probably get away with 1 1/2 feet. Just takes a little experimenting till you get it like
it sounds best to you.

The rick's post above linking to placement is excellent.

Anyways, congratulations on your purchase.

vardo
post #136 of 263
Hello Sonus Faber-ers,
I am please to announce that London Audio, in London Ontario now has the privilege of offering the Sonus Faber name. In celebration we are bringing in a pair of Stradivari Homage speakers to be setup, on display, and ready for listening NOVEMBER 19, 2010 from 6:00PM - 9:00PM. Everyone is welcome, food and drinks will be on hand.
We are also glad to bring back the highly regarded REL series of sub-woofers. And to kick off their return to London Audio, a Gibralter sub-woofer will be setup with the Sonus Fabers.

If you haven't heard the Stradivari's yet, come on in, we'd be glad to introduce you to a pair. And if you haven't felt the earth shake by REL, just remember:

LONDON AUDIO NOVEMBER 19, 2010 6:00PM - 9:00PM
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post #138 of 263
Wow! Talking about over the top!!! Interesting articles.
post #139 of 263
I heard (third party) that all 30 pairs of those were sold before they did a show for them
post #140 of 263
(Allow me to resuscitate this discussion with a message similar to what I posted in the Musical Fidelity thread...)

What do you folks think of the Musical Fidelity M6i integrated amplifier to be used alongside a pair of Sonus Faber Toy Towers?

I am currently using a Marantz SR-5005 receiver with the Toy Towers, with surprisingly decent results considering the fact that the Sonus are not the most sensitive speakers out there. However, I'm seriously considering the M6i for 2-channel only sessions, to be used in conjunction with the Marantz. Since the M6i includes a "home-theater pass through" input, I could be able to completely bypass the Marantz for 2 channel listening, and use the M6i essentially as a power amp only to drive my main front speakers during a 5.1 set-up (the Marantz would power the center channel and both surround channels).

Digital source will hopefully be the Oppo 95 (once it becomes available), in order to take advantage of the XLR connection...

Regarding the Toy Towers, let me second what has been already said here: they are simply terrific. For the price, they might very well be the biggest value in the Sonus family. In fact, many of the higher-up models use the same drivers (the $20K Elipsa, for example, uses the same "ring radiator" tweeter). I'd love to get my hands on a Cremona, an Amati or even the Liuto floor-stander (with the wood finish), but I have a difficult time justifying the expense. Perhaps in a few years...

In the meantime, what do you guys think of the Musical Fidelity + Toy Towers + Oppo combination?
post #141 of 263
I am looking for some advice on new speakers. I'm considering buying the Sonus Faber Cremona M that I heard a few times or, the Thiel 3.7, which I haven't been able to audition yet. Have any of you A/B the two speakers? Any thoughts?
Sandro
post #142 of 263
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Originally Posted by sweatynipples View Post

Setup:
Sonus Faber Cremonas - Piano Black Fronts and Center
Sonus Faber Auditor Elipsa Rears
JL Audio Fathom 113 Subwoofer
Pioneer 60" Kuro Signature Elite
4 Mcintosh Amps

Capable Power - 4400 watts

System is 7-8 months old now





Superb
post #143 of 263
Folks,

Does anyone know of a dealer who might carry stands for Concertino Domus in upstate NY?

Thanks in advance.
post #144 of 263
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Originally Posted by mpedris View Post

Folks,

Does anyone know of a dealer who might carry stands for Concertino Domus in upstate NY?

Thanks in advance.

Have you tried MSS HiFi?
post #145 of 263
I have a question about the Toy Towers. In some pictures I see that the "spikes" that they rest on are attached to a wide base in the rear while the front seem to be screwed into the bottom of the speaker cabinet. The pair I just bought have wide metal bars that screw into the front and rear of the bottom of the cabinet so the spikes are "outboard". Did they change the design or something?
post #146 of 263
Seems like a while since this thread has been active - you guys still alive?? wink.gif

Heard a demo (quite by chance) of the Sonus Toy Towers over the weekend and was completely taken by surprise. For the first time, experienced imagining to the point where I swore there was a center channel playing during the 2-ch demo - even with my eyes open. Then the dealer stuck these in a HT environment side by side with a pair of Paradigm Studio 100s and I was amazed at how well they filled the theater. Not to mention the imaging and detail beat the Paradigm's hands down.

In any event, I'm hooked. Working up pricing on Toy Towers/Center and looking for some insight into matching components. Trying to get away with not buying an amp out of the gate - already over-budget on the HT so saving that for a Christmas present to myself. Dealer recommendation on receiver is either NAD T-777 or Arcam AVR-360. For surround matches, dealer suggested to go with PSB CW260 since SF doesn't make matching in-wall speakers for the Toy line. Sub recommendation is Paradigm Seismic 110 - the dealer also carries REL, but Paradigm was suggested to bring some more power to the sound.

Room is approx 16.7 x 13 x 8, though the ceiling vaults at one side. This will primarily be a HT setup, though after hearing the SF, I may be re-living some of my CDs! Any insight would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.
post #147 of 263
Has anybody auditioned the Veneres yet??

They look nice, and are priced in the entry level. It will be interesting to see how they stack up to other speakers in the category.

And, same price as Toys roughly!! An interesting decision...
post #148 of 263
HI, I would to change mine 130W floorstanding 3way Indiana Line Arbour 5.02 to somethink more smooth in high with clean and smooth bass and a warm on voices and music.
I would to buy the SF Toy but don't know how they sounds and for space problem, Monitor that are smaller are better for my 16mq room.

Does the Toy Monitor sounds differently that Toy Tower? I heard that the bookshelf sounds more crispy on the tweeter and that toy tower is much more smooth and soft on trebles with a bug on midtrebles.

let me know
post #149 of 263
Excellent chance to grab a pair of Liuto on Audiogon at more than 50% off. For those that are interested
post #150 of 263
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Originally Posted by CKWells View Post

Has anybody auditioned the Veneres yet??
They look nice, and are priced in the entry level. It will be interesting to see how they stack up to other speakers in the category.
And, same price as Toys roughly!! An interesting decision...

I've listened to them for a bit. From what I recall, they sound like a sonus Faber speaker, butter smooth treble, delicious mids, laid back sounding...but I can't get over how they look. Cabinet is this cheap feeling high gloss plastic. Of course, not made in Italy like the Toys. I'd rather have the Toys.
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