Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread - Page 69

Originally Posted by Big Picture

I'm considering Mythos 10's for my front three speakers with a 140" wide screen.

I will need to toe the side 10's in 30 or more degrees and would like to be able to adjust the angle of the horizontal 10 center channel speaker too.

Is there a way to rig the 10's mounting brackets to allow for these adjustments?

Thank you.

Originally Posted by grod777

I am considering Mythos ine's for my fronts and had the same question. I asked DefTech and this is what I was told:
"Ultimately, the dispersion pattern of the Mythos speakers is a bit wider than most other speakers. You wouldn’t normally need to angle or toe these speakers inward…."
I figured if and when I get them and I still need to angle them I would attach a piece of wood the same dimensions as the wall mount and maybe some shims at the edges to angle them in as I attach the wall mount to the wood. Or maybe I would do something with small hinges. You'll have to experiment and see what you can come up with I guess.

Originally Posted by grod777

I am considering Mythos ine's for my fronts and had the same question. I asked DefTech and this is what I was told:
"Ultimately, the dispersion pattern of the Mythos speakers is a bit wider than most other speakers. You wouldn't normally need to angle or toe these speakers inward."
I figured if and when I get them and I still need to angle them I would attach a piece of wood the same dimensions as the wall mount and maybe some shims at the edges to angle them in as I attach the wall mount to the wood. Or maybe I would do something with small hinges. You'll have to experiment and see what you can come up with I guess.

Originally Posted by Big Picture

My speakers will be fairly close to the side walls and the Def Tech rep I spoke to (Adam) agreed that some toe in would be beneficial in my situation although he had no suggestions on how to do it. I thought about hinges too. If you read page 8 of the Owners manual it talks about a Vertical Angle Adjustment with a foot of some sort. This appears to be for adjusting the up down angle but is unclear to me, maybe someone who has these speakers can chime in? I intend to call Def Tech Monday to get a clarification.

I'm really trying to make these speakers work. Most of the other wall mounted speakers I've found are in the 24-26" high range with 4 1/4-4 /1/2" drivers, I'm thinking they will look puny in comparison to the Mythos 10's next to my 140"X59" screen. Atalantic Technology FS 3200's come with mounting brackets that accomodate toe in adjustment and are also apprarently highly regarded speakers, unfortunately on the small side compared to the 10's.

Originally Posted by dbrunodna

I would try just mounting the speakers flush on the wall first. I was going to use two promounts to mount a nine sideways for a center channel so I could angle it, however once I put the speakers up there and listened to it, I could not really tell the difference. Check out my setup, post #1982 a few pages back. The ceiling is 9' high in my house, so the center channel is about 8' off the floor or a good 4' above my ear while in my listening position. I am glad I took the advice of some folks on the forum who suggested to try it first, because 1) I can't really tell a difference with it not angled and 2) I like the aesthetics much better than a speaker sitting off the wall angled.

I did contact Deftech regarding using two promounts like this and they said although it isn't usually how they recommend mounting the nine, it can be done and the mount will hold itself just fine. I think the mounts are good for 10lbs each and the speaker is about 13 pounds. For the ten, you're looking at 21 lbs, so I don't think the mount will hold up. In regard to the speaker threads however (which was my main concern) they said the threaded screws are intended to hold the weight of the speaker regardless of whether they are being held by the pins/bracket or some other mount.

I personally felt the nines create such a big soundstage that it's difficult to tell where it's coming from anyway. With the ten, you'll have plenty of power and sound.

Originally Posted by Big Picture

One of my concerns is that my speakers will be mounted very close to the side walls so it seems that toeing them in some is a good idea. The DT rep I spoke with kinda sorta cornfirmed my feelings but didn't seem real strong about it, "probably a good idea" he said".

How close to the side walls do you have your speakers mounted?

I'm also wondering now if pulling the speakers off the wall a few inches with a universal mount will have a negative effect because the speakers are designed for on-wall use?

Has anyone here used a universal mount to hang their Mythos 10's, if so what brand/model did you use?

Originally Posted by dbrunodna

I would try just mounting the speakers flush on the wall first. I was going to use two promounts to mount a nine sideways for a center channel so I could angle it, however once I put the speakers up there and listened to it, I could not really tell the difference. Check out my setup, post #1982 a few pages back. The ceiling is 9' high in my house, so the center channel is about 8' off the floor or a good 4' above my ear while in my listening position. I am glad I took the advice of some folks on the forum who suggested to try it first, because 1) I can't really tell a difference with it not angled and 2) I like the aesthetics much better than a speaker sitting off the wall angled.

I did contact Deftech regarding using two promounts like this and they said although it isn't usually how they recommend mounting the nine, it can be done and the mount will hold itself just fine. I think the mounts are good for 10lbs each and the speaker is about 13 pounds. For the ten, you're looking at 21 lbs, so I don't think the mount will hold up. In regard to the speaker threads however (which was my main concern) they said the threaded screws are intended to hold the weight of the speaker regardless of whether they are being held by the pins/bracket or some other mount.

I personally felt the nines create such a big soundstage that it's difficult to tell where it's coming from anyway. With the ten, you'll have plenty of power and sound.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

If you search on "subwoofer" in this thread, you'll get lots of recommendations. Just about any quality sub will match your system well, as long as you set things up correctly. A lot of folks (including myself) like the IO dealers: SVS, MFW, Epik, etc. It boils down to available placement space, desired power and range, asthetics, and budget. My only suggestion is, if you are planning to add a sub to an ST system, make sure it's a sub that will actually add something to your system (i.e. plays really low and loud), as the ST's certainly can hold their own without a sub. In fact, you might just wait and see how you like the ST's alone before investing in a sub right away.

In terms of "add/ons", I would budget for the following (in no particular order): good quality surge suppressor and/or UPS; room treatments (bass traps,etc.) , sound pressure level meter, universal remote (I like Harmony One), HDTV source (FIOS, cable, satellite), Blu-ray player (Hard to beat the Oppo-83), Ideal-Lume, and professional calibration of your television and sound system.

The one thing I wouldn't spend crazy money on are speaker cables. Most folks here like Monoprice or Blue Jeans Cable.

Just my opinions--would be interested in what others have to say--lot of wisdom in this group of folks on this thread!

Originally Posted by holyindian

Oppo is a good choice.. i will wait until they lower down their prices a bit further.

Originally Posted by Big Picture

My speakers will be fairly close to the side walls and the Def Tech rep I spoke to (Adam) agreed that some toe in would be beneficial in my situation although he had no suggestions on how to do it. I thought about hinges too. If you read page 8 of the Owners manual it talks about a Vertical Angle Adjustment with a foot of some sort. This appears to be for adjusting the up down angle but is unclear to me, maybe someone who has these speakers can chime in? I intend to call Def Tech Monday to get a clarification.

I'm really trying to make these speakers work. Most of the other wall mounted speakers I've found are in the 24-26" high range with 4 1/4-4 /1/2" drivers, I'm thinking they will look puny in comparison to the Mythos 10's next to my 140"X59" screen. Atalantic Technology FS 3200's come with mounting brackets that accomodate toe in adjustment and are also apprarently highly regarded speakers, unfortunately on the small side compared to the 10's.

Originally Posted by rnrn

can someone explain why the oppo player is rated so highly? what makes it worth $500 especially for people who don't have the latest top of the line tv?

Originally Posted by Ascen5sion

I had the Oppo bdp 83, it is the balls lol. Very quick loading times, played everything I threw at it. I had two Samsung players before hand and they took forever to load, the remote commands ie FF, RW were slow to respond. The Oppo was very sturdy player you could tell it had excellent build quality. The remote commands were very quick (no lag) the UI was easy to navigate. It is well worth the $500. I didn't use it for SD DVD playback but ppl rave about the upscaling capability. The only reason I sold mine is cause I went to a htpc and didn't use it any longer. I like not having to constantly put discs in and out of the players lol. Lazy yes lol, but I watch bits and pieces of movies constantly. If you want a stand alone player that Oppo is the one to get!!! It just works, not tempermental like other players on the market.

Originally Posted by rnrn

I'm also going to be using an htpc and am trying to decide on a blu-ray playback device. Are you using a blu-ray drive in your htpc? And how do you output the sound with your htpc (like pcm over hdmi)?

Originally Posted by holyindian

Oppo is a good choice.. i will wait until they lower down their prices a bit further.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Coincidentally, I was just asked this same question by PM.

According to the manual: In a multichannel system, when using the LFE inputs, set your receiver's or processor's Speaker Set Up (bass
management) as Front = Large, Subwoofer = Yes (On). In other words, when you set the STS to large, it will get a full range signal, and there will be no low pass filter applied by the receiver to these two channels. (This assumes you don't have a separate sub in addition to the STS's).

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Not a stupid question--

Hook up the speaker wires from the L/R channels. Then, connect a Y connector from the LFE (subwoofer) output on your receiver to two subwoofer cables. Connect one cable to the LFE input on your left STS and the other to the LFE input on your right STS.

(Note that you don't have to use LFE with the STS, but for the majority of applications, it's the way to go).