Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread - Page 73

Originally Posted by Perpendicular

I've been fighting the urge to spend a lot of money but I would be short changing myself if I didn't do at least a 5.1 system in the Mythos 10.
I really despise plastic housing loudspeakers.
Yes, I do prefer on-wall loudspeakers and can get away with it using MCACC.

Originally Posted by Fanaticalism

Get the best center channel you can afford. A dynamic system that is handicapped by the center will leave you wanting/wondering.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Very sorry to hear about this--sounds like something got loose during shipping. Don't worry though--I'm sure SVS will make it right, and my understanding is the subs are pretty easy to work on--people have upgraded the driver at home, etc...

BTW, did you email SVS? I've gotten responses to emails as late as 3 a.m. CST.

Originally Posted by NewbieRob

Thanks. I know having a great center is critical. If I wind up being limited by budget or space, does everyone agree that the Mythos Seven is a better speaker than the Procenter 1000? Also, is the Mythos Three a much better speaker than the Mythos Seven or is the difference pretty minimal? Thanks again to everyone for their help.

Originally Posted by Perpendicular

I don't know how much clearer I could have been in my Post about what I'm cosidering for temporary mains.
I listed 3 of them.

I've been fighting the urge to spend a lot of money but I would be short changing myself if I didn't do at least a 5.1 system in the Mythos 10.
I really despise plastic housing loudspeakers.
Yes, I do prefer on-wall loudspeakers and can get away with it using MCACC.

Originally Posted by Fanaticalism

You were considering a center channel as your left and right mains? There a lot of issues with this especially considering they are an MTM design. You will have poor off axis response and introducing massive comb-filtering (a hollow thin sound).

Always remember that a horizontal center channel is a compromise as designed for practicality in home applications where a vertical speaker of substantial size becomes an issue. Three identical speakers across the front in their vertical orientation is always optimal, but not always practical.

Originally Posted by dustinfields

Yesterday I have connected the LFE using a Y - Connector to the STS speakers , put the bass knob at 12'0 clock position and in the receiver settings set SUB - ON.

The sound/bass seems to be lot better after making the above changes.

For the surround speakers GEM XL's, I hear them too low. THey are set at 100Hz , Do I need to change the cross over a little higher or lower.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Perpendicular

Yeah, I wasn't thinking of installing the CC speakers for L&R horizontally because of this off-axis response and would never do this to any loudspeaker. Plus, it would look bad. It would definitely sound horrible. Luckily, I haven't found this off-axis response a problem with my Mythos Ten as a center. Probably, because my room is on the narrow side (13 feet). The Mythos Ten is such a great loudspeaker to begin with. Of course, it's a Mythos ST without the Sub. So, I just answered my own question. It's Mythos Tens, all around!

Thanks for your responses!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Very sorry to hear about this--sounds like something got loose during shipping. Don't worry though--I'm sure SVS will make it right, and my understanding is the subs are pretty easy to work on--people have upgraded the driver at home, etc...

BTW, did you email SVS? I've gotten responses to emails as late as 3 a.m. CST.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Hey! Glad to hear that things are working out so far--I have always been impressed with SVS customer service--even after they got my money, they have answered my every question no matter how tedious and have stood behind their subs 100%.

Let us know how it goes when you get your new sub! (The SPL meter is going to come in handy I suspect when you are trying to set the phase and levels properly).

Originally Posted by MD Boy

Hey MVP,

I spoke to Jack at SVS today and you're absolutely right, they took care of me and were great to work with.

I explained the sound that was coming out of my sub and the gentleman I spoke with, Jack, simply said that the driver must have been damaged during shipment.

He offered to send me a new driver or a brand new sub. As I have previously stated, that I'm completely useless when it comes to taking things apart and the fact that I don't have any tools, I opted to receive a new sub. Jack complied and said he will ship a new sub out Monday and e-mail me a pre-paid label to ship back the broken sub. I was thrilled. Granted, I have to wait a little longer to get my sub so Jack threw in a t-shirt and SPL meter!

Wow, SVS exceeded my expectations and Jack was a true professional in handling my claim.

I haven't even heard the sub yet as I've bought it, 'blind' but if it's as good as everyone says it is, I'm fairly certain I'll get another sub from them when space permits.

Well, they've made me a SVS'r for life

Thanks again for your help.

Originally Posted by Fanaticalism

I think that in terms of CS, DT and SVS have to be two of the best out there. I have never read of anything less than what you have described above about either company.

Originally Posted by MD Boy

Just got my PC12 today.

Well, plugged it in and started testing it with, 'Iron Man'. To my dismay, there's a very loud rattling sound coming from inside of the sub whenever the sub hits.

I don't have the knowledge or tools to open the sub and see what's going on inside. All I can tell you is, anytime bass comes out of the sub, it is accompanied by a very loud rattle. As if there is a something loose inside and shaking around. Maybe a screw or something?

As previously mentioned, I don't know how to take a sub apart; even if I did, I wouldn't know where to begin.

I'm a little bummed because I had company coming over this weekend to watch football - as it is Wildcard weekend =)

I contacted SVS but they're closed; so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to seek a resolution.

Other than that, yeah, this sub is HUGE. Dwarfs my Mythos 1 that it stands next to. Looks a little odd for the moment; will just have to get use to it.

Originally Posted by MD Boy

Hmmm.....Maybe I should have just stuck with the traditional box and went for the PB12

Originally Posted by MD Boy

Hey MVP,

He offered to send me a new driver or a brand new sub. As I have previously stated, that I'm completely useless when it comes to taking things apart and the fact that I don't have any tools, I opted to receive a new sub. Jack complied and said he will ship a new sub out Monday and e-mail me a pre-paid label to ship back the broken sub. I was thrilled. Granted, I have to wait a little longer to get my sub so Jack threw in a t-shirt and SPL meter!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Interestingly, the cylinder subs actually fit into more places than the boxes, due to their relatively small footprint. It's their height that makes them look big.

That said, I really like having the PC-12 Plus subs--people look at them and go "Wow!"--much more interesting than another couple of black boxes. (Although some of those, especially with a piano black finish, are rather cool as well).

It's also nice to be able to move them around myself at will without getting a hernia!

Originally Posted by holyindian

That SVS Subwoofer looks like a monster its awesome. I am being tempted to the core to get the SVS PC12 now. Just searched their website and saw a new model up PC13 Ultra, how is that one!!? Or PC12 is enough

In these few days, i have managed to read a lot from the previously posted Home Theater 101 thread. This has been a hell of an experience.
My ST is sounding much much better now, infact i guess this is the best sound i have ever heard from any speakers. Flip side is, my neighbor starts knocking on the door almost every other day now.

Please let me know if my crossover settings are good enough!

I have set Mythos ST / LFE to 200Hz (previously with the Audyssey calibration it was 100Hz).
Center 10 I have set to 60Hz (previously with the Audyssey calibration it was 50Hz).
Gem XL which is my Surround I've set it to 80Hz (previously it was 120Hz).

Also wanted to know.. is having a Surround Back a good idea? Do many guys in here have 7.1 Channel setup?

I have a budget of 1500 dollars right now, and i was planning to invest on either of the one.
1. A pair of good speaker for Surround Back probably Mythos STS for Rear surround, thus completing 7.1 Channel setup (is it worth)?
2. SVS PC12 Subwoofer
3. Or a better Receiver like SC-27 (as of now i am using an older AV Onkyo 604).

Which one shud i give preference to..?

Originally Posted by FlavioSupra

I am about to pull the trigger on a Def Tech Mythos ST system but am undecided which system to buy.

System one is 2x Mythos ST for front, 2x Mythos STS for surround plus a Mythos Ten as center.
System two is 2x Mythos ST front, 2x Mythos GemXL for surround and Mythos Ten for center.
System three is 2x Mythos STS front, 2x Mythos STS for surround and Mythos Nine for center.

System two and three will save me $1,000 over system one which I could use for other improvements (SVS AS-EQ1 perhaps?).
System one and two have the top of the line front and center speakers and have perhaps some extra output.
System three has the exact timbre matching all around.

I mainly use it for movies so I am not sure whether a direct radiating surround would be best, also because the surround speakers are quite close to the listening position, appr. 6 feet.
I have a very large room (1,000 sq.ft.), front speakers would be 10 feet apart and listening position would be appr. 15 feet from the front speakers.

The ideal surround would perhaps be a bipolar speaker with the speaker units of the ST/STS but Def Tech has no such speaker (yet?). If I know that something like this is in the making I can wait for it and start with just the front three speakers.

I can get the STS for almost the same price as the Ten so I'd rather use the STS as surrounds if I choose to go with direct-radiating surrounds.

I will have a SVS PB-13 Ultra or JL Audio Fathom f113 subwoofer for LFE.
The Mythos speakers will be powered by a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 5x400W amplifier.
The system will stay a 5.1 system, I am not planning to go 7.1 or add extra front high or wide speakers.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Macfan424

You won't go wrong with any of those options. For me it would be a close call between (2) and (3), although in your room I'd probably wind up with (2). Either way, I'd add the SVS AS-EQ1 (or similar). At normal (loud) listening levels, I've never heard the differences between ST's and STS's that many other members have. If you do, that would alter the equation.

While they aren't a conventional bi-polar design, DefTech does consider the Gem/Gem XL's to be bipolar speakers especially designed to work with Mythos direct radiating fronts. If you want a more diffuse surround sound, then (2) would be an excellent choice, especially given the subwoofer you intend. Or you could consider a pair of DefTech's more conventional bipolar BPVX or BPX series for your surrounds. DefTech advised me that they were voiced similarly and would be a solid match for my STSs. Speakers sound different in different locations, so even identical speakers will sound slightly different when placed around a room.

I have an Velodyne SMS-1 -- which is similar in function to the SVS AS-EQ1 -- and consider it one of the most significant upgrades I've ever made, so I tend to recommend one of these devices rather than spending similar amounts of money on more subtle improvements. YMMV.

Some people might rationalize STS's for surrounds, but for rears, they are overkill for all but the wealthiest among us.

Originally Posted by FlavioSupra

I am about to pull the trigger on a Def Tech Mythos ST system but am undecided which system to buy.

System one is 2x Mythos ST for front, 2x Mythos STS for surround plus a Mythos Ten as center.
System two is 2x Mythos ST front, 2x Mythos GemXL for surround and Mythos Ten for center.
System three is 2x Mythos STS front, 2x Mythos STS for surround and Mythos Nine for center.

System two and three will save me $1,000 over system one which I could use for other improvements (SVS AS-EQ1 perhaps?).
System one and two have the top of the line front and center speakers and have perhaps some extra output.
System three has the exact timbre matching all around.

I mainly use it for movies so I am not sure whether a direct radiating surround would be best, also because the surround speakers are quite close to the listening position, appr. 6 feet.
I have a very large room (1,000 sq.ft.), front speakers would be 10 feet apart and listening position would be appr. 15 feet from the front speakers.

The ideal surround would perhaps be a bipolar speaker with the speaker units of the ST/STS but Def Tech has no such speaker (yet?). If I know that something like this is in the making I can wait for it and start with just the front three speakers.

I can get the STS for almost the same price as the Ten so I'd rather use the STS as surrounds if I choose to go with direct-radiating surrounds.

I will have a SVS PB-13 Ultra or JL Audio Fathom f113 subwoofer for LFE.
The Mythos speakers will be powered by a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 5x400W amplifier.
The system will stay a 5.1 system, I am not planning to go 7.1 or add extra front high or wide speakers.

Any advice would be appreciated.