Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread - Page 77

Originally Posted by ramzy

Bass coming from the center channel is entirely dependant on the material. From my experience, there seems to be prevelant bass on impactful things such as gun shots and deep male voices.

To illustrate, I was fortunate to have a sound demo the 2000, 2300, 2500, and 3000 all at once not to long ago. The demo I was given was the Dolby Digital soundtrack of Lord of the Rings. The 2000 does not have a powered sub, but the rest did. I am uncertain what the crossover was set at. The two things I distinctly remember being impressed with the active sub speakers vs the 2000 were the horses stomping, and Gandolf's voice. Otherwise, there was little difference in things such as female voices.

I had a 2300, now a M10. I think the M10 is a deeper even without the active sub. However, I do remember the 2500 and the 3000 sounding a fair amount better than the 2300. I don't think its about whether an active sub is needed in a center, rather whether that center channel can handle deep frequencies.

Originally Posted by hdtv47lg70

thanks for the response. so i am assuming the m10 = mythos 10?

Originally Posted by jguarine

I am planning on purchasing 2 Mythos STSs, so I called my local dealer and was told that they would not budge on the MSRP of $1499. So I called 6 ave and they informed me that they are unable to reduce the price. Are dealers required to keep the same price, much like Bose products? If not, can anyone refer me to a good online authorized dealer? Thanks

Originally Posted by fquails

If you plan to run both the Supercube III and PC12-NSD at the same time hooked up to the same LFE output from your receiver, you need to be cognizant of the fact that the SuperCube cannot be driven as hard as the PC12. Because of that, I have an external 40Hz subsonic filter for my SuperCubes when being used for movies. In addition, I set the SuperCubes' volume a little lower for movies and let the PC12-NSD do most of the work.

For music, the subsonic filter for the Supercubes is off, and volume is at normal level.

Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by dbrunodna

Thank you fquails for the firsthand experience. It's much appreciated. It never dawned on me that the PC12-NSD driver would be able to take more juice. Could you please provide a link to 40Hz subsonic filter you are using for the SC during movie playback? Is this just another device that plugs in downstream of the AVR on the LFE out going to that particular subwoofer? I assume you are just splitting the LFE channel between your SVS and supercubes?

God I'd hate to be your neighbor during movie night!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

All:
What Mythos systems do you have (or are considering), and why did you select (or are considering) those components? Since DT claims all the Mythos speakers play well together, any particular speaker combinations/sub combinations that have worked well for you? Any comments on using the direct Mythos speakers as surrounds compared with the bipole Gem XL's or mixing and matching the two?

Originally Posted by fquails

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About the PC12. It is visually imposing...HUGE. Published dimensions are 16" in diameter, and 35" for height. Sounds small, but once you see it, it LOOKS HUGE.

I thought it's important that you know that. The SCIII is small, and you have it hidden in a cabinet, so it looks like aesthetics is important to you/your family. You or your family may have an issue with the PC12's effect on your room.

I have mine in a corner, hidden behind the TV/AV rack. Can't see it, but can definitely hear and feel it!

Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by htr1

I just found this forum this evening and must say that I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the informative posts. I need some advice and trust this is where I will probably find the best.
Let me start by saying that I know just about nothing on this topic. I am in the process of building a home theater and in addition to researching online I have made a few trips to the local Best Buy to check some things out. On a recent trip there I was checking out one of the Bose HT in a box systems assuming it was the best money could buy (has something to do with my less affluent childhood where it appeared that Bose was the gold standard). Luckily I was approached by a Magnolia salesperson who directed my into the Magnolia showroom claiming he could show me sats that would blow the Bose away. Needless to say I was very impressed by the $800 set of Pro Cinema 600 speakers. Of course I eventually asked to listen the the 1000's and was even more impressed. The past few weeks I have tried to find another brand/line of speakers that would rival this setup for a comparable price ($2000). During this process I continuously found myself coming back to Def Tech's products. On an accidental redirect to a retailers site, I ran into what appeared to be a mistake which was speakers in the Mythos line selling at severe discounts and yes you guessed it, its the silver cased models. In any case given that it now appears I can get a much better sounding system for the same or less money, I am pumped to get this whole thing put together.
My room is a dedicated Home theater room and measures 12 x 20. I will be using a 92" - 100" projected picture. I was thinking of going with a 7.1 surround setup using a Denon AVR 1910 that will be installed by a professional. I will primarily use this setup for watching movies with the family and sports. Here is what I was thinking:

Mythos 2 for R/L
Mythos 3 for C
Mythos 2 for rears and possibly surround?
Pro Sub 800 or 1000

Again I am only considering the Mythos 2 and 3 because the silver case models are so well priced and it appears as though I can get a very high end sounding system for roughly the same price as the sat system I initally considered buying.

Any thoughts on the above setup or advice on modifying it to optimize my system?
Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by htr1

Thanks, the room has 8 ft ceilings so the space is completely confined. There is a bedroom adjacent to one wall and a bedroom on the floor underneath. All other walls are exterior. I am leaning to the "smaller" (92") screen.

Again, not being an audiophile, I am not necesarrily looking for the best possible setup due to budget contraints. However, given that I was already content with the Pro Cinema series speakers I heard at BB and assuming the Mythos line will produce better performance, why not buy the Mythos if the cost is the same. This may not be good a/v logic but normally getting more for less money is a good thing. With that said I guess I am looking for someone to shoot holes in that logic AND assuming that logic is sound, then is the setup (Mythos 2 for L/R, rear, and surrounds: Mythos 3 center: Pro Sub 800 sub) I suggested a good one or should I consider another setup that would come in at around that same price point ($2000).

In the end I want to spend $2000 dollars on speakers and this opportunity to sneak into the Mythos line (buying the silver cased version) seems to be my best bet vs going with the Pro Cinema 1000 setup. Any thoughts out there?

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by jguarine

Getting ready to purchase the Mythos STS special that includes the STS, Nine, 2 Gems plus stands. The speakers will be connected to a Pioneer SC-27 and will primarily used for HT. I thought of getting the STs but they would be too imposing for my room. However, I was thinking of upgrading the Nine to a Ten since most of the sound will be coming from the center. I would appreciate an opinion as to whether it would make since to do this since the nine is said to match the STS but the ten has better specs. BTW size isn't an issue because the center will be mounted below a Pioneer KRP-600M.

Originally Posted by jguarine

Getting ready to purchase the Mythos STS special that includes the STS, Nine, 2 Gems plus stands. The speakers will be connected to a Pioneer SC-27 and will primarily used for HT. I thought of getting the STs but they would be too imposing for my room. However, I was thinking of upgrading the Nine to a Ten since most of the sound will be coming from the center. I would appreciate an opinion as to whether it would make since to do this since the nine is said to match the STS but the ten has better specs. BTW size isn't an issue because the center will be mounted below a Pioneer KRP-600M.

Originally Posted by ckelly33

When checking channel levels from my Denon 3808 using the Denon's test tone (basically static), my L & R STS's have the save tone/pitch to them, and basically so do my rear L/R Gem's but the test tone coming form my Mythos 9 sounds a bit more 'hollow'.

I've adjusted other settings so that everything sounds pretty good when they are in actual use (home theater) but I wonder now, since the STS's and the 9 are supposed to be 'timbre matched' (whatever that means) and yet they sound different using the same test tome, if my 9 is slightly defective (but not defective enough to be adjusted through it).

Any more knowledgeable input out there from you more experienced users? Shoud my test tomes sound the same or is that normal?

Originally Posted by Macfan424

Coincidentally, mvp2005fan just addressed this a couple of posts up. Horizontal and vertical speakers do not sound exactly the same even if all three are identical. Positioning also has an effect. Very often the center speaker is on (or even in) a cabinet and/or next to the TV screen, which alters its sound characteristics. Your experience with test tones is more typical than unusual. However, pink noise shows up tonal differences much more clearly than normal program materials do.

Originally Posted by jguarine

Getting ready to purchase the Mythos STS special that includes the STS, Nine, 2 Gems plus stands. The speakers will be connected to a Pioneer SC-27 and will primarily used for HT. I thought of getting the STs but they would be too imposing for my room. However, I was thinking of upgrading the Nine to a Ten since most of the sound will be coming from the center. I would appreciate an opinion as to whether it would make since to do this since the nine is said to match the STS but the ten has better specs. BTW size isn't an issue because the center will be mounted below a Pioneer KRP-600M.

Originally Posted by af216

I just bought an HDTV (LN52B630) for my family room and want to add a Home Theatre System for both movies and listening to music. I was thinking of going with a 5.1 system that includes (4) Mythos 2 speakers, (1) Mythos 3 center and either a Martin Logan DYN500D Dynamo 500 or Polk Micro Pro 1000 subwoofer. I am a novice when it comes to AV systems and am looking for some feedback as to whether this is a good setup for the the room or are there any improvements that can be made without breaking the bank . The receiver that I wil be using is a Pioneer VSX-9040TXH. The family room is 16x22 with 12 ft ceiling. Note also that the home is an open concept house - family room flows directly into the kitchen and breakfast nook which then opens up in the formal living and dining room. I have attached a picture of the room for reference.
Thanks!