Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread - Page 9

Would 1400.00 off of the MSRP from the Def Tech Site be considered a good deal for.... floor model ST's ...(one has a very small scratch on the top) They sound real good.

I have seen them listed for a few different prices.

Thanks

Anyone know if the Mythos Six stands will work on the Two's? There doesn't appear to be a specific stand for the Two's, but looking at the pix on Definitive's site, it looks like the Six stands might work.

Anyone?

I'm glad to read a good report on the Two/Three/Gem setup. Congrats. What sub are you using again?

Where? I want it

Thanks for the replies.

I bought the ST's for $999 each, Magnolia demo models. It seems a bunch of these stores are closing.

RE: subwoofer. These STs pound pretty hard, and the truth is my old subwoofer, an old 12in Audio Research basically sounds best turned off when in the same room. What level of quality subwoofer would I need to actually be an addition to the system, especially at the very bottom of the Hz? I think the ST specs list each tower as being equivalent to 2 12inchers.

RE: Bp1.2x, I didn't buy them first time around, at $100 each as I don't really have a great setup for 7.1 at THIS time. Plus the Magnolia rep stated that most of the sound in a 7.1 plays through the fronts and the sides, so he recced the gemXls on the side and the BPs in the rear. In my current room the gemxls would almost be headphones. However, I think the more dipoled BP1.2s could be usable as sides, so I might go see if they still have them available, since several people use that system.

DrFondle,

Was it a real Magnolia store ? not one in Best Buy? I don't think there are too many of those around anymore.

I know there are a lot of really great independent subwoofer companies out there, but in the Definitive line the only subs that will make a dent in the ST's is the SuperCube Reference and the SuperCube Trinity. The SuperCube Reference for the money sounds awesome. It is true that the ST's have low frequency output of 2 12" woofers which is why the SuperCube I just won't cut it.

Thanks MVP! I'll post some pictures as soon as I can get them mounted which should be in a week or two hopefully.

BigAWL, because I spent more on my speakers, I went with the Klipsch Sub-12 which I got for a really great deal at the time with the goal of upgrading down the line. Although not the greatest sub, it's actually a pretty good compliment to the Mythos so it will be just fine for the short term.

Are you talking about the glass base? if so I am fairly certain the two's and the 6's have the same bolt pattern. I am also fairly sure that both speakers come with the glass base....

I will check on this

No, I meant the optional stands that DefTech shows on its website for the Six's. I pinged DefTech and they say they will not fit the Two's.

Has anyone tried thes Sanus FF1 stands with the Two's?

Great deal! I wish I can get a deal like that. Every time when I see something 50% or more off retail I just can't control myself

I'm really interested in making a large mythos order. However, I'm not going to pay full retail prices. Why are the def tech speakers selling at full MSRP at about every website? I just can't see it with the current economy, you would think they would want business.

Seriously, I'd like to order 2 pairs of the ST's, pair of 2's and a single 10. Anyone here know someone who could get me a deal on these, please PM me.

Thanks!

Mike

def tech will only let online retailers sell at full retail

you have to get into a real stereo store to get good discounts on def tech or some of those internet places will give you a good deal when you call them

on an order like yours, you should look for 25-30% off of full retail

are you going to use ST's front and rear or is this for 2 different rooms ?

ST's in front and surround duty. I dig SACD too. The 2's will be in the bedroom.

Thanks for the response! I guess I'll give 6th Ave a call and see what they come up with.

Mike

Hi everyone I would like to know how does these 2 mythos system compare to each other.

ST SuperTower as L/R Mythos 10 center with no sub

vs

Mythos 10 L/C/R with a 1k sub

Bamboo, seeing as your primary use is HT, I would go with option 2. You need the ability to attain ULF's when it comes to HT use, which a full range speaker could never really muster.

If you were looking for multhichannel music (SACD/DVD-A), then I would look for full range speakers.

This is my personal preference of course.

Hey Bamboo,

I have a SuperCube II sub and a pair of the Mythos ST speakers...The bass output on the Mythos ST speakers dwarfs my SuperCubeII sub which I now just keep off (until I save up to get something bigger The low frequency response is easily equivalent to two SuperCube II subs so the towers with the Mythos 10 center would absolutely rock. Also visually the ST's are very sleek and look far more expensive than they are

The Mythos ten L/C/R combo would sound great as well, and if you mount them to the wall you will have a super clean look...Wives typically let their husbands get the wall mounted option with not much gripe, but the towers take a bit of convincing.

i guess my personal feeling on this is that it is difficult to get the same seamless bass transition with a separate sub and the Mythos 10 as you are going to get with the Mythos ST speakers... The reason I say this is because I previously had mythos one speakers and I just couldn't get the crossover points to blend in my living room with my SuperCube II (ie the reason for my upgrade)

Hopefully this helps

Hey Teeter,
I did confirm that the 6 stand will not fit the 2's either....
I have not actually tried the FF1 speaker stands with the Mythos 2's. The slit that runs along the FF1 speaker stands for the screws to go though may be a bit too high for the top screw hole on the Mythos 2's, (what i mean is that you may see the top pole of the stand sticking out above the speaker) but the worst case scenario would be to drill an additional hole above the FF1 slit to make them work cosmetically. Also another thing to consider is that you may have to use a few washers as the FF1 mounting surface is curved and the Mythos 2's are flat.

I have a pair of STS speakers and was thinking of getting a separate sub - primarily for LFE duties. For 2 channel, I would continue to run the STS speakers full-range, but for home theater I thought it may make sense to move the load from the LFE to a separate sub. Does this make any sense? If it does, would the SuperCube I be suffieicient or do you need to move up to the SuperCube Reference?

Thanks

FWIW, I use STS's with a separate sub (actually two). As you suggest, I run the STS's full-range, with the subs handling LFE (plus any below 80Hz lows in the other 5 channels). It's a very good arrangement, and I highly recommend it.

However, IMO, compared to the STS's alone, adding an external sub would be worthwhile only if you get one that can deliver infrasonic frequencies with impact. In the DefTech line, that means at least the SuperCube Reference. An SuperCube I might do it in some rooms, but I wouldn't bet on it. Not to disparage the SC I at all -- it would be an upgrade -- but I just don't think it would make as much of an improvement over the STS's as you are probably looking for.

Thanks for the opinions Fanaticalism and Audio John very informative
BTW Fanaticalism did you sell the rest of you system yet? Let me know after you finish your new setup

I agree with Macfan,
The only sub that would really make an impact and stand out would be the SuperCube Reference or the trinity ...If you have a smaller room the SuperCube I may be ok, but it will only inch up your overall bass response by a bit.

Hey Teeter,
I called Definitive today to actually confirm that the Sanus FF1 stands would work with the Mythos 2's and he said that that is what he normally recommends.

Awesome, thanks for the heads up, John. -T

Yeah, the last cube is on Ebay, and is fetching a pretty penny.

It'll be a good month before I get the rest of the components (had to order some).

Just curious - are most owners of the Mythos line leaving the grilles on or off - particularly with the STS, ST and Ten?

Thanks

Hey John based on your experience despite the lower end, how does the Mythos one compare to the ST in the upper and mid range area?

I leave them on with my STS.

Hey Bamboo,

So I just did the demo back and forth with the bass knobs on the ST's all the way down(which does cut the bass completely) and listened to them compared to the Mythos 1's. They sound almost identical as far as the upper to mid ranges are concerned even though the ST's have only three active drivers and the Mythos 1's have 5. I think this is due to the slightly larger cabinet on the ST's.

If you guys want any type of Definitive comparisons done or to see the inside of certain definitive speakers let me know and I will be glad to help...I love this stuff