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post #331 of 5221
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Originally Posted by bigAWL View Post


So far so good. I think the GemXLs will do fine for me in front, but I really don't have any other good alternative to compare. I did have a little trouble initially with Audessey warning me that the left front GemXL was connected out of phase. I double- and triple-checked all connections and finally moved the left one to the other end of the bookshelf. Audyssey seemed to like that position better. Maybe it was getting a strange reflection somewhere?

Finally, the SVS sub.... I fully expected it to improve the bass extension, but I wasn't prepared for how much. I knew it was a highly respected small sub, but wow! I've never heard bass like this. The first thing I listened to (since I had it handy) was Finding Nemo and the fish tank tapping scene - I had read about the deep bass in this one. I was blown away by the sound coming from this small box (~14" cube). It did shake the room a bit which is large and very open to both living room and dining room - I even had to turn it down. I may have to play with the placement (it's currently in a pretty tight corner) because I think there may be a bit too much corner-load effect. Maybe that particular frequency is being overemphasized (maybe I do need some measuring equipment)? Reading the subwoofer threads, I used to worry that I'd be disappointed by the limitations of SB12+ and its small dimensions. Sorry, I'm no bass-head - but I can't imagine wanting any more bass than this little thing can put out.

I'll try to post photos later. Next, I need to finish things off with a couple Gem surrounds. Or perhaps I'll hold off and see what my next place is like. I'm moving this summer and might have a better configuration that will accomodate a pair of Mythos Twos in front, and I could use the GemXLs as surrounds.

Congrats, Big AWL--I know your system has been a long time coming with a lot of thought/research behind it--glad it's finally there. Also, thanks for the tip on the Nemo disc. (Hopefully it will be out on Blu-ray soon--I just got selected for the second EAP wave for the Oppo BDP-83, so I'll need something to feed it with )
post #332 of 5221
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Originally Posted by scp2 View Post

I wanted to get some advice on subwoofer connection.

My current set-up...Yam RX-V863(has two lfe outs) Mythos 1 frts, Mythos 8 cntr, Mythos GemXL rsr, Supercube II sub. SCII is hooked up via LFE

I am am adding a second SCII. As far as connection goes should I connect them using high level outs on the frts, avr to right sub then to right spkr and same on left. Set receiver to lrg on the frts and keep lfe for center and rears and keep them to small. I hope that makes sense.

I am thinking for music this would be better.

Hi scp2:

I have a very similar set up as you do (Yammy Z7, Mythos Ones (L/R), Mythos 8 (C); UIW RSS II (SS); Mythos 8's (RS) and 2 SVS PC-12 Pluses.

If I am reading you correctly, what you propose would work. However, I personally would recommend using a Y splitter (Blue Jeans cable has a good quality one) and running both subs directly to your sub pre-amp output from the AVR. I would set all of your speakers to small and keep the LFE out of them.

The reason is, IMHO, one of the things that works for the subless Mythos' is that they have a very articulate treble and upper bass. Consequently, they are designed to work well with a dedicated sub handling the lower registers.

Adding the LFE to the Mythos' channels works against this somewhat: the added bass interferes a bit with the Mythos' strengths in the upper registers. Using the high level outs to drive substantial portion of your bass also causes your receiver's amps to work harder which may compress your sound a bit--depending on how loud you like your sound.

I realize that Def Techs printed specs give rather large FR's, but I tend to multiply that lower number by 3 to get the real world lower extension. For your (and my) setup an 80Hz crossover is a nice starting point, even for the Mythos Ones.

Obviously, your room characteristics, personal taste, movie/music balance will dictate what works best for you; therefore, you might try it both ways and see what pleases you best.

Good luck! (and please consider posting some pics if you get a chance )
post #333 of 5221
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Originally Posted by jhav View Post

Congrats on the setup BigAWL. I've been following your posts for the past few weeks as I worked towards my own DT setup. I started out with an SSA-50, but was left wanting more --- don't get me wrong, it did as good a job as a 5 channel-single-speaker probably can, but it was not filling my need. After much consideration - including considering a pair of GEM XL and a THREE for my fronts and 2 TWOs and a THREE, I was able to nail two phenomenal deals on a pair of GEMS for rears and three NINES for my L/C/R. The same day I pulled the trigger on the NINES, SVS had a B-stock SB12+ online and I jumped all over it.

The NINES and SVS were delivered yesterday and I got to mounting them right away. I still have some fishing to do and am waiting on a 35 ft. subwoofer cable from Monoprice which will give me some additional placement flexibility for the SB12+ --- however, with that said, the current setup sounds amazing. I cannot stop watching Casino Royale on Showtime!

The NINES and GEMS sound great, but, like you, I am most impressed with the SB12+ -- what an amazing sounding sub. I had been contemplating a SCII, but learned of HSU & SVS by reading this and other AVS threads --- I owe all of you a BIG thank you as not only did I save a couple of $$$ by going with the SB12+, I also ended up with an absolutely amazing product that does not disappoint in the least.

Congrats, jahav! sounds like a great system (and a specific combination I haven't seen anyone get before) I bet the 9's up front form a very uniform/coherent sound stage--the 9 as center is supposed to be especially good--I assume you put them all on the wall?

I am intrigued Re: the SB 12+--it sounds like you have a large room (given the sub cable) and that's cool that the SB-12+ is able to fill it well. Did you go with a wood veneer sub or the classic black version?
post #334 of 5221
Thanks for the input MVP.

You are right about the Mythos One's...the crisp very articulate sound is why I purchased them.

I am puzzled now....DefTech...said to hook them up thru the high level outs...but they may have not considered my avr. I don't want to tax the amp...I do like to play it loud at times and that's when I need the best SQ. I will try it both ways.

The 863 has two sub outs so I wouldn't need that Y adaptor would I? I did get one with the sub cable I bought if needed.

One last thing as a back up...I have Jeff Meier from Accucal coming next month to calibrate my system...so what ever I do he will straighten out. I will share after he comes.
post #335 of 5221
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Originally Posted by scp2 View Post

Thanks for the input MVP.

You are right about the Mythos One's...the crisp very articulate sound is why I purchased them.

I am puzzled now....DefTech...said to hook them up thru the high level outs...but they may have not considered my avr. I don't want to tax the amp...I do like to play it loud at times and that's when I need the best SQ. I will try it both ways.

The 863 has two sub outs so I wouldn't need that Y adaptor would I? I did get one with the sub cable I bought if needed.

One last thing as a back up...I have Jeff Meier from Accucal coming next month to calibrate my system...so what ever I do he will straighten out. I will share after he comes.

I thought the SCII's had low level inputs? If so, those would be the ones I would use.

If you have 2 preamp sub outs--then you're right, no Y adaptor needed.

Hey, I didn't know Jeff Meier was coming--just forget about what I said and do what he says!
post #336 of 5221
I posted this a few weeks ago in the main DT thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post15987462

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I am about to pull the trigger on a DT system as soon as I get my ears over to my local retailer and demo them. I had an older setup with BP 2006s etc, and have to replace it. Not sure which direction to take. I am 50/50 HT vs. music.

I have been considering two systems, either the BPs with-
2 BP7001s, 2-BPVXs, 1 C/L/R 3000, 2 UIW BP/A

The other system I am entertaining is with the Mythos line-
2 Mythos ST Super Towers, 2 Gem XL, 1 Mythos 10, 2 UIW BP/A

..and this...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post15988498

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Until I audition some setups I'm living through everyone else's ears. I have grown accustomed to my old DT bipolar setup but the Mythos line caught my attention.

I'm dealing with a very difficult room. It is 12 by 24 with many windows, a fireplace, area rugs, hardwood floors, and an 8-foot archway opening to a 15 by 15 room. With limited options for speaker placement and poor room acoustics, am I correct to presume that bipolars are the logical way to go?

Well, I stopped by my local audio boutique and I instantly fell in love with the ST Super Towers. I could not believe what I've been missing all these years. Don't get me wrong, my trusty ole BP2006 system provided many years of enjoyment but when I heard these babiesgeeze! Where have you been all my life?

I did give the BP7001s a try but it was that all encompassing sound that I grew so bored with but didn't know ituntil I heard the STs.

And besides, the 7001s would not fit the ergonomics of my living roomor more specifically the WAF.

I stayed in the store for a couple of hours listening to the Mythos system in awe. I bought everything listed above on the spot but won't take delivery for a few weeks since I'm having work done in my home.

Question, regarding the height of the two Gem XLs and also the UIW BP/As. Should I mount these at about 51 inches high, similar to the height of the towers, or should I go higher?

Also, for the GemXLs, what are the best wall mounts?

I'm going to set these speakers up first since they won't be in the way of the general work taking place in my house.
post #337 of 5221
I just purchased a pair of mythos gems to go with my pioneer '01. I will be using them as my fronts until I can get the one's and mythos 3, then I will move them to my surrounds. Should I just set them to large and be done with it or is there a certain setting I should run them at?
post #338 of 5221
Larry The GemXLs come with a flat wall bracket...Def Tech makes an adjustable accessory mount.... I bought a set and didn't use them...would make you a deal on them if they will work for you.
post #339 of 5221
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Originally Posted by scp2 View Post

Larry The GemXLs come with a flat wall bracket...Def Tech makes an adjustable accessory mount.... I bought a set and didn't use them...would make you a deal on them if they will work for you.

Thanks, I'll let you know over the weekeend after I pcik them up and determine what I will need.
post #340 of 5221
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Originally Posted by teebiz11 View Post

I just purchased a pair of mythos gems to go with my pioneer '01. I will be using them as my fronts until I can get the one's and mythos 3, then I will move them to my surrounds. Should I just set them to large and be done with it or is there a certain setting I should run them at?

If you have a subwoofer, set them to Small. DefTech recommends setting the crossover at 120Hz.

If you don't have a sub, you don't have an option. The 01 will set them to large, because there is nowhere else to send the bass.
post #341 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

If you have a subwoofer, set them to Small. DefTech recommends setting the crossover at 120Hz.

If you don't have a sub, you don't have an option. The 01 will set them to large, because there is nowhere else to send the bass.

Nope, I don't have a sub yet.
Thanks. I'll be hooking them up tonight
post #342 of 5221
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

II stayed in the store for a couple of hours listening to the Mythos system in awe. I bought everything listed above on the spot but won't take delivery for a few weeks since I'm having work done in my home.

Question, regarding the height of the two Gem XLs and also the UIW BP/As. Should I mount these at about 51 inches high, similar to the height of the towers, or should I go higher?

Also, for the GemXLs, what are the best wall mounts?

I'm going to set these speakers up first since they won't be in the way of the general work taking place in my house.

Hi, LL3HD:
First of all, congrats on your speaker purchase--your gonna love 'em!

To answer your question: Since the UIW's and Gem XL's and the UIW's are going to be used as your side and rear surrounds, respectively--I would suggest mounting them so their tweeters are anywhere from 2 to 3 feet above your seated ear height.

That particular recommendation seemed to be the consensus of as many sources I could find in AVS Forums and on the web. (I ended up using the UIW RSSII as my side surrounds, with Mythos 8's for the rear surrounds--they sound great, and work well in that position as surrounds. I would say, however, that it is interesting how the sound of the UIW changes with just a little change in my seating position).

Good luck!
post #343 of 5221
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Hi, LL3HD:
First of all, congrats on your speaker purchase--your gonna love 'em!

Thanks! I can't wait to set everything up.

I also picked up the RX-Z7 too, I know you have that (been following the Oppo 83 thread with much interest).

I knew I had a few weeks to wait for the work to be completed in my home but I made the mistake of wondering into my A/V store. Big mistake. If I waited to audition these beauties then I wouldn't have known what I was getting and how amazing they are. Now it's like knowing what's going to be under the Christmas tree at the beginning of December. I probably sound like a jerk but I'm grateful I can swing these toys. By the way, the work being done in my home is due to a massive fire in October. Everyone is fine, I was the only one home at the time and man all I can say is I'm blessed to be here. Life's too short, might as well enjoy every minute.

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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

To answer your question: Since the UIW's and Gem XL's and the UIW's are going to be used as your side and rear surrounds, respectively--I would suggest mounting them so their tweeters are anywhere from 2 to 3 feet above your seated ear height.

That particular recommendation seemed to be the consensus of as many sources I could find in AVS Forums and on the web. (I ended up using the UIW RSSII as my side surrounds, with Mythos 8's for the rear surrounds--they sound great, and work well in that position as surrounds. I would say, however, that it is interesting how the sound of the UIW changes with just a little change in my seating position).

Good luck!

Stupid question, should the GemXLs be tilted down towards the seating position or facing straight out? Not much I could do with the in wall units.
post #344 of 5221
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Thanks! I can't wait to set everything up.

I also picked up the RX-Z7 too, I know you have that (been following the Oppo 83 thread with much interest).

I knew I had a few weeks to wait for the work to be completed in my home but I made the mistake of wondering into my A/V store. Big mistake. If I waited to audition these beauties then I wouldn't have known what I was getting and how amazing they are. Now it's like knowing what's going to be under the Christmas tree at the beginning of December. I probably sound like a jerk but I'm grateful I can swing these toys. By the way, the work being done in my home is due to a massive fire in October. Everyone is fine, I was the only one home at the time and man all I can say is I'm blessed to be here. Life's too short, might as well enjoy every minute.

I hear that, bro'! (I'm glad noone was injured in your situation--when things like that happen, it makes me remember that things are simply that--temporary and replaceable and not what really matters.)

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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Stupid question, should the GemXLs be tilted down towards the seating position or facing straight out? Not much I could do with the in wall units.

Not stupid question at all--if the Gems are the rear surrounds, then the answer depends on where your seating position is in relation to the Gems. If you are going to have to sit right up against the rear wall (or very close to it), then I would suggest pointing the Gems downward a bit. If, on the other hand, you are able to sit at the 1/3rd's or 2/3rds position or so from the front of the room, then I would just point the Gems straight ahead.

If the Gems are to be your side surrounds, then I would simply point them straight across the room--not pointed down.

Obviously, your mileage may vary depending on the room, etc. These are just general suggestions, so if there is any way you can test out the placement before you make it permanent, it's smart to do so.
post #345 of 5221
Just noticed a new review of the STS in the latest Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity.
post #346 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

Just noticed a new review of the STS in the latest Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity.

Another positive review
post #347 of 5221
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Just noticed a new review of the STS in the latest Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity.

Hi, Macfan424: Thanks for the link--added it to first post.
post #348 of 5221
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All:

I have just updated the first post of this thread to include additional links to recent reviews of the Mythos stuff, as well as direct links to pictures of forum users' Mythos systems.

If I incorrectly listed your components, please PM me so that I can make corrections. If I somehow overlooked your pictures (sorry ), kindly please PM the correct links and list of components.

Finally, if you haven't yet, please consider posting pictures of your Mythos system in this thread--I, for one, enjoy seeing various applications of these components in real-life settings.

Thanks for considering this!

PS: For some reason, I have not been able to get any further measured frequency responses to Mythos speakers from Def Tech--if you have any further +/- 3db specs not already listed, please let me know. My aim is to try to make the post a useful resource for owners and anyone considering acquiring the Mythos line. Thanks!
post #349 of 5221
According to the HomeTheaterMag review on the ST/Eight/GemXL system (looks like you have it listed as Gem), the -3dB points are:
ST: 30 Hz
Eight: 88 Hz
GemXL: 120 Hz.

HTM also has a review of the STS/Nine/Gem setup (here if you want to add the link: http://hometheatermag.com/floorlouds...tem/index.html), and has the following -3dB measurements:
STS: 38 Hz
Nine: 96 Hz
Gem: 164 Hz

Then there's the Four/Three/Gem/SCII review (http://hometheatermag.com/floorlouds...s/1004deftech/) with the following -3dB points:
Four: 104 Hz
Three: 122 Hz
Gem: 162 Hz
SCII: 27 Hz (if you're interested in adding the sub responses)

The SSA-50 review that you have linked has these -3dB points for the different channels of the array:
L/R: 128 Hz
Center: 134 Hz
Surround: 227 Hz (gee that seems high)
ProSub800: 34 Hz

Finally, the HTM review of Gem/Seven/SCIII (http://hometheatermag.com/compactspeakers/1205def/) uses the following -3dB points:
Gem: 183 Hz
Seven: 136 Hz
SCIII: 46 Hz
post #350 of 5221
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Originally Posted by bigAWL View Post

According to the HomeTheaterMag review on the ST/Eight/GemXL system (looks like you have it listed as Gem), the -3dB points are:
ST: 30 Hz
Eight: 88 Hz
GemXL: 120 Hz.

HTM also has a review of the STS/Nine/Gem setup (here if you want to add the link: http://hometheatermag.com/floorlouds...tem/index.html), and has the following -3dB measurements:
STS: 38 Hz
Nine: 96 Hz
Gem: 164 Hz

Then there's the Four/Three/Gem/SCII review (http://hometheatermag.com/floorlouds...s/1004deftech/) with the following -3dB points:
Four: 104 Hz
Three: 122 Hz
Gem: 162 Hz
SCII: 27 Hz (if you're interested in adding the sub responses)

The SSA-50 review that you have linked has these -3dB points for the different channels of the array:
L/R: 128 Hz
Center: 134 Hz
Surround: 227 Hz (gee that seems high)
ProSub800: 34 Hz

Finally, the HTM review of Gem/Seven/SCIII (http://hometheatermag.com/compactspeakers/1205def/) uses the following -3dB points:
Gem: 183 Hz
Seven: 136 Hz
SCIII: 46 Hz

Thanks for posting the new link.

As usual, the problem with speaker frequency response measurements is that they can be misleading to the uninitiated. All sorts of things could come into play, but it is unlikely, for example, that there is that much difference in real world performance between the SCIII and the SCII. Similarly, it is improbable that there is as much difference between the ST and STS as these numbers suggest. In both cases, I'd venture that DT's - 3dB figures are more representative of what an owner would experience. (SuperCube II: 25Hz, SuperCube III: 29Hz; ST: 24Hz , STS: 28Hz).

I can speak only about the STS, but my measurements (not exactly lab quality, I'll admit ) jibe very closely with the DT numbers. Of course, mine are in-room, so HTM's close mic - 6dB point (29Hz) is probably nearer to my listening position - 3dB readings, which obviously include boundary gain.
post #351 of 5221
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Originally Posted by jhav View Post

Congrats on the setup BigAWL. I've been following your posts for the past few weeks as I worked towards my own DT setup. I started out with an SSA-50, but was left wanting more --- don't get me wrong, it did as good a job as a 5 channel-single-speaker probably can, but it was not filling my need. After much consideration - including considering a pair of GEM XL and a THREE for my fronts and 2 TWOs and a THREE, I was able to nail two phenomenal deals on a pair of GEMS for rears and three NINES for my L/C/R. The same day I pulled the trigger on the NINES, SVS had a B-stock SB12+ online and I jumped all over it.

The NINES and SVS were delivered yesterday and I got to mounting them right away. I still have some fishing to do and am waiting on a 35 ft. subwoofer cable from Monoprice which will give me some additional placement flexibility for the SB12+ --- however, with that said, the current setup sounds amazing. I cannot stop watching Casino Royale on Showtime!

The NINES and GEMS sound great, but, like you, I am most impressed with the SB12+ -- what an amazing sounding sub. I had been contemplating a SCII, but learned of HSU & SVS by reading this and other AVS threads --- I owe all of you a BIG thank you as not only did I save a couple of $$$ by going with the SB12+, I also ended up with an absolutely amazing product that does not disappoint in the least.


I have been thinking about the same setup, Will fit around my ln52a860 nicely.
These have the same drivers -the sub as the sts, does that mean with a goob sub they would sound as good? Jhav you said HT is great, how do they sound for music playback?
post #352 of 5221
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I'm thinking about hooking up the 2 front Presence speakers for my Yamaha RX-Z7 (especially in light of Butterworth's article in this month's S & V)

Looks like I have a choice between the Mythos Gem and Mythos Gem XL for my system.

Question: any preference for this particular application? Has anyone actually hear the Yammys with the presence speakers on?

I would think the Gem XL would be overkill for this type of use, but I'd be interested to know what you think please.

Thanks!
post #353 of 5221
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

I'm thinking about hooking up the 2 front Presence speakers for my Yamaha RX-Z7 (especially in light of Butterworth's article in this month's S & V)

Looks like I have a choice between the Mythos Gem and Mythos Gem XL for my system.

Question: any preference for this particular application? Has anyone actually hear the Yammys with the presence speakers on?

I would think the Gem XL would be overkill for this type of use, but I'd be interested to know what you think please.

Thanks!

I never heard the term Presence Speakers before. I googled and came up with this link.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=41243

I like the concept.
post #354 of 5221
Cool...I just thought the presence speaker was to be used only if you did not have surrounds. I just have a RX-V863...but it shows them availible. I have some small sats still up in the frt corners of my room that I used for frts before I got my Mythos 1's. I have our outdoor speakers hooked up to zone B.....hmmm hope that doesn't squelch this idea....will have to do some research. Have to hook them up when wifey isn't looking...she thinks our new system puts out way too much sound already.

I snuck my second sub in when she wasn't home and it's a small supercubeII and she stll hasn't noticed. There is some advantages to small subs.
post #355 of 5221
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Originally Posted by scp2 View Post

Cool...I just thought the presence speaker was to be used only if you did not have surrounds. I just have a RX-V863...but it shows them availible. I have some small sats still up in the frt corners of my room that I used for frts before I got my Mythos 1's. I have our outdoor speakers hooked up to zone B.....hmmm hope that doesn't squelch this idea....will have to do some research. Have to hook them up when wifey isn't looking...she thinks our new system puts out way too much sound already.

I snuck my second sub in when she wasn't home and it's a small supercubeII and she stll hasn't noticed. There is some advantages to small subs.

What are your impressions with the dual subs?

Pop in Master and Commander, and tell me what you think.

P.S. I highly recommend one near field, and the other farfield, corner loaded if possible.
post #356 of 5221
Dual subs are way cool!!!. Wife didn't know anything was changed...we watched "I am Legend" there was a couple good tests. Of course the surprise attacks...but the real test was the helicoptor scenes. Helicoptors always give subs a great sound effect...but wth two OMG it is phenomenol the pounding effect moves across the room.

I suggested Master and Commander and my son said no way. Oh well I did buy an extra long sub cord just for this movie anyway and plan to watch by myself so I can really push it.
post #357 of 5221
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by scp2 View Post

Cool...I just thought the presence speaker was to be used only if you did not have surrounds. I just have a RX-V863...but it shows them availible. I have some small sats still up in the frt corners of my room that I used for frts before I got my Mythos 1's. I have our outdoor speakers hooked up to zone B.....hmmm hope that doesn't squelch this idea....will have to do some research. Have to hook them up when wifey isn't looking...she thinks our new system puts out way too much sound already.

I snuck my second sub in when she wasn't home and it's a small supercubeII and she stll hasn't noticed. There is some advantages to small subs.

The presence speakers will be used for DSP modes where the rears are silent; however, I haven't totally made up my mind whether it is worth buying and installing even more speakers. It probably is cool, but I suspect that it's a matter of degrees as opposed to a dramatic difference--I could think of better ways to improve the home theater given the $350 to $700 this would cost me. Besides, 99% of the time, for 2 channel material, I think it'll be DD PLIIx. Still, I am curious what the DSP modes sound like with the presence speakers.

Unfortunately, my two subs are SVS PC-12 Pluses, which were pretty much impossible to "sneak" in!
post #358 of 5221
Ok...hooked up the Presense speakers last night...first impression...not to impressed. As far as what I did...the speakers I used were Bose Acoutimas sats..so that may have something to do with it. They have that funky sub? thing and that sits on the floor on the left side...and I have a feeling it is steeling a bunch of the sound. Also my test was very short and nowhere near the listening levels I like and didn't try many DSP modes. I am still going to play with it I like the idea and still haven't ruled out adding Gems or Gem XL's to replace the Bose.

Anybody have an opinion on the Diff between the two Gems?

A lot of messing to do..I have an EQ sitting there to hook up as well. Not sure how to adjust that thing at all.....but hopefully I have Jeff Meier coming next month to help.
post #359 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Hi, scp2--the difference between the Gems really is just a matter of the size of the woofers (3.5 to 4.5 inches). They are voiced the same, but the XL has a lower extension.
post #360 of 5221
What does the (+/- 4.6 dB) mean in 161 Hz -18.5 kHz +/- 4.6 dB for the gems? I don't really understand the dB settings.
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