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post #3511 of 5221
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Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post

Has anyone had a chance to audition the 10's and 8's along side some 1's? I currently have 1's up front, a 7 center, 4's side, and BP-2X rear's, an Empire and a M&K sub. Looking at going with an AT screen in the new HT room, and possibly replacing the 1's and 7's with something wall mounted, along with "something" for heights and wides....really scratching my head here to get a feel for what i want to do. Preference would be to end up with the same speaker for all (not sure if heights and wides would need to be anything bigger than a Gem though).

I have yet to have my system in a room layout that is even "OK" for proper HT sound, but my feeling so far is that the Mythos are a little too bright for my taste. But I've made such an investment into them, I'm having a hard time justifying switching to a different brand. I will not have room up front in the HT room I am building for ST's or BP's,

IF you feel that the "older" Mythos line is a little bright, definitely give the Tens or Nines a listen. They have the newer tweeter/driver combination and IN MY OPINION they sound a little warmer. If you are looking to keep the ones up front (I would - they are great speakers!), and to ease the budget, I would consider going with the Tens as center and surrounds. If you really want to get rid of the ones and go with wall mounted all around, then the tens are about as good as your going to get for a wall mounted L/R speaker. The newer tweeter with the BDSS drivers really do sound less bright to my ears. Give them a listen. Maybe you could re-position the BP-2X's as your heights?

I personally mix and match my surrounds and don't notice a major tonal difference. BUT I have the same driver/tweeter combination across the front for smooth panning (ST's L/R with Ten center). I have BPX for surrounds and fours for rears.

Good luck with your choice.
post #3512 of 5221
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Originally Posted by yosh7 View Post

Before you make the switch - would it be worth it to hear the new Goldenear Triton Two's?? If I had to buy my ST's again, I think I would want to hear both. Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE my Mythos ST's but the Tritions look like a worthy competitor (smaller drivers with interesting ribbon tweeter and maybe more on the bass side). With the smaller drivers in the Tritons, I'm betting the ST will still beat them. Now if they came up with a Trition "one" with 5 1/4" drivers - we might have a competitor.

I did listen to the Golden Ears today. They setup the STS, ST and Golden Ear and switch between the 3. I still liked the ST Towers better.
post #3513 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post

I did listen to the Golden Ears today. They setup the STS, ST and Golden Ear and switch between the 3. I still liked the ST Towers better.

Awesome. I'd love to hear the a/b comparison!!! What were the differences? Bass, mid-range, aluminum tweeter vs ribbon? It puts me at ease to know that the ST is still king!
post #3514 of 5221
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Originally Posted by yosh7 View Post

IF you feel that the "older" Mythos line is a little bright, definitely give the Tens or Nines a listen. They have the newer tweeter/driver combination and IN MY OPINION they sound a little warmer. If you are looking to keep the ones up front (I would - they are great speakers!), and to ease the budget, I would consider going with the Tens as center and surrounds. If you really want to get rid of the ones and go with wall mounted all around, then the tens are about as good as your going to get for a wall mounted L/R speaker. The newer tweeter with the BDSS drivers really do sound less bright to my ears. Give them a listen. Maybe you could re-position the BP-2X's as your heights?

I personally mix and match my surrounds and don't notice a major tonal difference. BUT I have the same driver/tweeter combination across the front for smooth panning (ST's L/R with Ten center). I have BPX for surrounds and fours for rears.

Good luck with your choice.

I stopped by BB today to see if I could listen to some 10's, but they are special order only at the Magnolias....crap....
Did listen to the STS, the new BP's, and some B&W's. Gotta say, those B&W's sounded NICE...NICE, Nice.....felt like they had the right mix of accuracy, mids, and low end. But they did lack the WHAM punch of the BP's. The STS's were in a different room, and were set up without a sub, and without a center - listened anyway - just felt like my 1's with a little more bass.
post #3515 of 5221
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Originally Posted by yosh7 View Post

Awesome. I'd love to hear the a/b comparison!!! What were the differences? Bass, mid-range, aluminum tweeter vs ribbon? It puts me at ease to know that the ST is still king!

To me the Golden Ear sounded thin and lacked Bass. It's definitely missing the mark to me. It also has a larger footprint then the ST and needs to be toed in much more because of the driver array on the sides.
post #3516 of 5221
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Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post

I stopped by BB today to see if I could listen to some 10's, but they are special order only at the Magnolias....crap....
Did listen to the STS, the new BP's, and some B&W's. Gotta say, those B&W's sounded NICE...NICE, Nice.....felt like they had the right mix of accuracy, mids, and low end. But they did lack the WHAM punch of the BP's. The STS's were in a different room, and were set up without a sub, and without a center - listened anyway - just felt like my 1's with a little more bass.

I had the One's prior to the STS. The One's are alot brighter and in the beginning I missed that with the STS. Once I got them broken in I could tell they had a slightly milder mid range. The ST Towers actually sound better and opened the image area much more. It is not a jump out at you difference but it is worth the upgrade for me.

The B&W did sound good, but definitely need a separate sub. The new BP's to me missed the mark and did not impress me. They also looked to be made cheaper than the prior series.
post #3517 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post

I had the One's prior to the STS. The One's are alot brighter and in the beginning I missed that with the STS. Once I got them broken in I could tell they had a slightly milder mid range. The ST Towers actually sound better and opened the image area much more. It is not a jump out at you difference but it is worth the upgrade for me.

The B&W did sound good, but definitely need a separate sub. The new BP's to me missed the mark and did not impress me. They also looked to be made cheaper than the prior series.

+1. New BP series is a little disappointing. I hope it's not a sign of things to come without Sandy G. Now if you like bi-polar sound, the BP 7001/7000 rock.

I also heard the BB setup of the B&W towers in two separate rooms. They sounded very flat. And in this case way too laid back. The ST's definitely win the BB wars in my opinion
post #3518 of 5221
I am having a hard time decieding what to do. I sold my BP7006 to get the XTR50...then I started to read about the Mytho Nine's...Here is my setup and I would appreciate any advice.
Receiver : Yamaha RX-V1065
Rears: BP 1.2x
Center: L/C/R2002
Sub: Klipsch RW10

TV Panasonic 50VT25
post #3519 of 5221
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Originally Posted by yosh7 View Post

+1. New BP series is a little disappointing. I hope it's not a sign of things to come without Sandy G. Now if you like bi-polar sound, the BP 7001/7000 rock.

I also heard the BB setup of the B&W towers in two separate rooms. They sounded very flat. And in this case way too laid back. The ST's definitely win the BB wars in my opinion

Thats's funny...I had exactly the opposite impression! I heard detail with the B&W's that wasn't there with any of the Def Techs (BP's and STS). Set up of the equipment probably has more to do with what we hear in the store than the actual products do!

I'm REALLY considering a full set of the Ascend speakers now. Not a bad price to get a full 7 speakers, all matching. Just really hard to pull the trigger on something that I cant listen to first...

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Originally Posted by fergdogg23 View Post

I am having a hard time decieding what to do. I sold my BP7006 to get the XTR50...then I started to read about the Mytho Nine's...Here is my setup and I would appreciate any advice.
Receiver : Yamaha RX-V1065
Rears: BP 1.2x
Center: L/C/R2002
Sub: Klipsch RW10

TV Panasonic 50VT25

On paper, I'd go with the nines all the way over the XTR's.
post #3520 of 5221
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Originally Posted by fergdogg23 View Post
I am having a hard time decieding what to do. I sold my BP7006 to get the XTR50...then I started to read about the Mytho Nine's...Here is my setup and I would appreciate any advice.
Receiver : Yamaha RX-V1065
Rears: BP 1.2x
Center: L/C/R2002
Sub: Klipsch RW10

TV Panasonic 50VT25
xtr if there are space/asthetic requirements. Otherwise nine all day long. Nines have a better range, play louder without getting frazzled, and be easier to blend with your sub.
post #3521 of 5221
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Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post
Thats's funny...I had exactly the opposite impression! I heard detail with the B&W's that wasn't there with any of the Def Techs (BP's and STS). Set up of the equipment probably has more to do with what we hear in the store than the actual products do!

I'm REALLY considering a full set of the Ascend speakers now. Not a bad price to get a full 7 speakers, all matching. Just really hard to pull the trigger on something that I cant listen to first...



On paper, I'd go with the nines all the way over the XTR's.
Kudos and Props for taking the time to go out and really take the time to pick speakers that make your ears happy. What sounds good to some, sound bad to others. There is nothing worse than buyers remorse - especially with something as expensive as audiophile speakers.
post #3522 of 5221
Hi I recently purchased a pair of Mythos2 and was wondering what is the break in period for these speakers. One of the issues I'm having is that I feet that some of the highs feel a bit constricted when listening to music. Is this just due to break in or is this simply a limiting factor with these speakers.
post #3523 of 5221
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Originally Posted by drjoe007 View Post
Hi I recently purchased a pair of Mythos2 and was wondering what is the break in period for these speakers. One of the issues I'm having is that I feet that some of the highs feel a bit constricted when listening to music. Is this just due to break in or is this simply a limiting factor with these speakers.
If they are like the rest it takes a good 40 - 60 hrs. I felt the same about the STS I have and they smoothed out with time.
post #3524 of 5221
initially i wanted the Mythos ST system but because i may have to go in Europe I am looking for alternative that would not force me to sell new speakers because of the voltage difference. (i don't really like the voltage converters)
Do you think the result would be close with Mythos One as L/F with a subwoofer?
I am thinking of using Mythos One for surround as well. Has anyone tried that?
post #3525 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Antheo View Post

initially i wanted the Mythos ST system but because i may have to go in Europe I am looking for alternative that would not force me to sell new speakers because of the voltage difference. (i don't really like the voltage converters)
Do you think the result would be close with Mythos One as L/F with a subwoofer?
I am thinking of using Mythos One for surround as well. Has anyone tried that?

I've got Ones up front, 4's in the rear. Definitely need a sub, maybe two. Great clarity with them, but I kinda feel as though its missing some punch for HT.
post #3526 of 5221
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Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post

I've got Ones up front, 4's in the rear. Definitely need a sub, maybe two. Great clarity with them, but I kinda feel as though its missing some punch for HT.

so you don't have a sub with the Ones right now?
post #3527 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Antheo View Post

initially i wanted the Mythos ST system but because i may have to go in Europe I am looking for alternative that would not force me to sell new speakers because of the voltage difference. (i don't really like the voltage converters)
Do you think the result would be close with Mythos One as L/F with a subwoofer?
I am thinking of using Mythos One for surround as well. Has anyone tried that?

I had the One's. They are nice and clean sounding but yes you will definitely need a sub. I upgraded to the STS but now looking to upgrade to the ST Towers.
post #3528 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post
I had the One's. They are nice and clean sounding but yes you will definitely need a sub. I upgraded to the STS but now looking to upgrade to the ST Towers.
What kind of improvement did you hear when you moved to the STS from the Ones?
post #3529 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Antheo View Post

What kind of improvement did you hear when you moved to the STS from the Ones?

I can't speak to Ones but I find the STS just suitable for sorts of music I listen to. If you're a bass freak (pipe organ or synth-percussion) they're all going to need progressively more help as you move down the product line.
post #3530 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Antheo View Post

What kind of improvement did you hear when you moved to the STS from the Ones?

In comparison the one's have a brighter (some define it as harsher) sound. The STS sound milder and have a a fuller sound because of the built in subs. I still use a separate sub along with them though for the really low (deep) bass. If you are wondering, yes I still like the One's but glad I upgraded. Think of the one's with a built in sub and a slightly milder sound and you have the STS.
post #3531 of 5221
Anyone have some Gem XLs looking to sell? Or trade for some Gems?
post #3532 of 5221
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Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

Anyone have some Gem XLs looking to sell? Or trade for some Gems?

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ology-Mythos-G
post #3533 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Antheo View Post

so you don't have a sub with the Ones right now?

An Epik Empire and a M&K MX-1250THX.
post #3534 of 5221
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Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

Anyone have some Gem XLs looking to sell? Or trade for some Gems?

s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/AcuDefTechGuy/
post #3535 of 5221
I have STS fronts and Audyssey XT32. I asked Audyssey about small vs. large given XT32 and powered woofers.

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Originally Posted by Chris Kyriakakis View Post

With XT32 there is no Audyssey benefit in forcing speakers to Small because the resolution in the sub and speakers is equally high. There may be a smaller benefit in Small speakers because the AVR amp is not responsible for reproducing the lower frequencies and this improves the headroom.

So one less thing to worry about.
post #3536 of 5221
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post

s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/AcuDefTechGuy/

I don't see what is here about Gem XL's? Sorry if I am missing it.
post #3537 of 5221
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I have STS fronts and Audyssey XT32. I asked Audyssey about small vs. large given XT32 and powered woofers.



So one less thing to worry about.

So Chris is now saying with XT32, if Audyssey sets the fronts as Large on the ST/ STS, to leave it like that? We've always heard him say to always set the fronts as "small" for bass management purposes,no matter the actual performance of the fronts... I have my crossover set at 40hz, my logic being that my SVS sub is better at these lower freq than the subs in the STSs. I note that Def Tech does recommend running them as "large", unlike say the Ones, which while they publish FR down to 20 hz (yeah,right) they recommend a crossover at 60hz (IIRC)... BTW, I don't have the advantage of XT32 (have XT on Onkyo 876) ... can you tell if the XT32 really makes a noticeable difference in sound?
post #3538 of 5221
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Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

I don't see what is here about Gem XL's? Sorry if I am missing it.

Can't find them there either, today.
post #3539 of 5221
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Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post

An Epik Empire and a M&K MX-1250THX.

I purchased my first batch of Mythos One and i am looking a subwoofer to support them. I favor musicallity rather than Humpf and ideally i'd like to have:
1) dual-voltage, 2) not muddy 3) Auto on/of (auto sensing or 12 V trigger) 4)

I'd appreciate if you could tell me what sub worked and which didn't with Mythos speakers especially the Ones.

I started to put together a list of subs:
- Atlantic Technology 334SB $775
- KEF Q400 $649
- Klipsch SW-110 $449
- eDesign A7S - 450 $850
- Monitor Audio R370HD $799
- Epik Empire $938
- SVS PB12 (no dual voltage)
post #3540 of 5221
This is a Def Tech Mythos thread. Your question belongs in a subwoofer thread.
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