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post #391 of 5540
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Originally Posted by boathik View Post

I just wanted to post a few pics of my just finished basement media room. I designed and built the cabinets, did all the electrical and painting myself so I'm pleased with the results and wanted to share.

My setup:
Sony 46XBR4
Onkyo 876
Sony PS3
Mythos 2's L/R
Mythos 3 Center
Mythos Gem XL Surrounds
Supercube II

I added a 20 amp circuit for the media cabinets, the TV and the back corner where the sub plugs in. It is all protected by a SurgeX hardwire series mode surge protector. The speakers are wired with Belden 12awg. I have Leviton Zwave dimmers controling the lights and also interface with the Logitech 890 remote. (i'm still working on setting up the wired IR emitters in the cabinet and tweeking the remote).

Very nice! I especially like the way you designed the drawers to hold the blu-rays and DVD's. How do things sound?
post #392 of 5540
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Originally Posted by bigAWL View Post

Very nice work. How do you like the Two/Three/GemXL combination? I still hope to get Twos someday to match my Three center. And I didn't see where your SCII is - maybe under the end table in the corner? How does the sub sound?

I have the SCII in the corner just behind the little end table. It sounds great but i haven't tried moving it around much just yet. The sub cable that i ran in the wall has about 10' of slack so i can move it along the back wall. Eventually i would like to get a second sub but for now it shakes the walls just fine.
post #393 of 5540
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Originally Posted by wheelman76 View Post

Looks great !!! How do the gem XL's sound pointing straight ahead like that?

Before I ran the wire in the walls, i was using the Gem XL's on the wall but with old speaker wire that had been spliced together and of different sizes. The Gems had some static sound which i had worried that i had defective speakers or something. With the new wire and new receiver they don't have that sound. Listening to music through all 5 speakers sounds incredible! It plays louder and oh so much cleaner than before! I was catching up on Lost recorded in HD on the DVR the other day, they were walking through the jungle and I kept thinking someone was upstairs in the kitchen with the awesome effects from the Gems. I found this amazing especially since the seating is almost up against the back wall and there is only 4.5 feet between the primary seat and the speakers. I had run the Audyssey setup and haven't toggled it on/off to compare yet.
post #394 of 5540
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Very nice! I especially like the way you designed the drawers to hold the blu-rays and DVD's. How do things sound?

Thanks for the compliment. The drawers aren't even close to half full so now i have something to work on!

It sounds great too.... Amazing what the new wire and receiver can do!
post #395 of 5540
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Originally Posted by boathik View Post

I just wanted to post a few pics of my just finished basement media room. I designed and built the cabinets, did all the electrical and painting myself so I'm pleased with the results and wanted to share.

My setup:
Sony 46XBR4
Onkyo 876
Sony PS3
Mythos 2's L/R
Mythos 3 Center
Mythos Gem XL Surrounds
Supercube II

I added a 20 amp circuit for the media cabinets, the TV and the back corner where the sub plugs in. It is all protected by a SurgeX hardwire series mode surge protector. The speakers are wired with Belden 12awg. I have Leviton Zwave dimmers controling the lights and also interface with the Logitech 890 remote. (i'm still working on setting up the wired IR emitters in the cabinet and tweeking the remote).

Great looking install, did you do it yourself? It looks professional. I see your liking the Gem xl's. I'm considering them for my rears or just using 3 Mythos 9's. Where is the sub?

Dan
post #396 of 5540
Ok, here's my setup.

- Mythos GemXL left and right
- Mythos Three center
- Bose 100 surrounds
- SVS SB12-plus subwoofer
- Denon AVR-789
- Toshiba D-R400 DVD-recorder
- JVC XL-FZ258 CD player
- Sony 32" CRT (edit - I originally listed this as 36")





I started with the sub to the left of the wooden trunk in the second photo, and bass was pretty powerful. I wanted to play with the placement, so I moved it into the entertainment center as shown in the photos, but it interfered with the picture color on the TV. Since I took these photos, I've moved the sub to the right of the wooden trunk in the second photo, but I need to recalibate. I don't have any problem with the GemXLs in front, but I eventually hope to get a pair of Twos for the front, if my next home has a convenient setup for it.

I currently have the Bose surrounds in the front to the outside of the GemXLs (you might be able to spot one in the second photo behind the samovar - silver teapot thingy). Not ideal, but it gives a bit of a surround effect, probably like an extra wide sound bar.
post #397 of 5540
Hey guys new to the forum just pulled the trigger on:

Mythos 2 (L/R)
Mythos 3 (C)
Gem XL's (surround)

If i decide to go 7.1 what do you recomend for side surrounds meaning moving Gems to rear surrounds( By the way HiDefLifestyle.com has great prices, all five speakers $1500)
post #398 of 5540
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Originally Posted by ramador View Post

Hey guys new to the forum just pulled the trigger on:

Mythos 2 (L/R)
Mythos 3 (C)
Gem XL's (surround)

If i decide to go 7.1 what do you recomend for side surrounds meaning moving Gems to rear surrounds

Hi, ramador: Welcome to the forum! Sounds like you're putting together a nice setup there.

The choice of side surround is largely due to personal taste. Many people would recommend another pair of Gem XL's so that all 4 surrounds are identical and can generate a cohesive surround field. This may be your preferred setup if you listen primarily to movie soundtracks.

Others (myself included) prefer a modified approach with direct radiators (e.g. Mythos 2's in your system) as the rear surrounds and bipoles/dipoles on the sides. This lends itself to forming a bit of a hybrid system--good for multichannel music as well as movies. In addition, some of the new surround codecs call for discrete, full range sound from the rear surrounds (however, few (if any) blu-rays take full advantages of this). See the Dolby website speaker guidelines and the THX website speaker guidelines for more details.

Either way, though, has it's advantages/disadvantages. These are just general guidelines--as in nearly all things home theater--YMMV. Have fun!
post #399 of 5540
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[quote=bigAWL;16155387]Ok, here's my setup.

- Mythos GemXL left and right
- Mythos Three center
- Bose 100 surrounds
- SVS SB12-plus subwoofer
- Denon AVR-789
- Toshiba D-R400 DVD-recorder
- JVC XL-FZ258 CD player
- Sony 36" CRT

Hi, bigAWL--great pics and a nice setup--glad it's all come together for you! Just curious: how long did it take the sub to reach you?
post #400 of 5540
Anyone want to trade a pair of Gem XL for a brand new pair of Studio monitor 450?
post #401 of 5540
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Hi, bigAWL--great pics and a nice setup--glad it's all come together for you! Just curious: how long did it take the sub to reach you?

Thanks. It shipped just a couple days after I ordered it. But I get my mail forwarded from the US to Africa and that adds at least a week. So it took a little over two weeks to reach me. I was nervous about all the time in transit and the rough handling in air cargo. But the SVS packaging is excellent and the box arrived completely intact.
post #402 of 5540
MVP 2005 FAN MACFAN424 AXXIS AUDIO JOHN

You may have to click on this to see full message. 5 short paragraphs. Please read. Thanks.

Thank You for your dedication & sharing. I've been up all night reading this entire forum from pages 1-14. I am new to the forum & yearning to learn & share with the commitment you all exhibit. First: MVP (I know you just got a Yammy), but anyone in the market for a Pioneer Elite A/V RCVR PM me right away, I am honoring the code of the forums by not disclosing price (FilmMixer). However if you are in the market for a VSX 01, VSX 03, SC 05, or SC 07 that are brand new & from an authorized dealer... PM me for details. Without disclosing figures, let's just say up to $800.00 off! No strings or MIR. You can run there, or make it a Cannonball Run, but don't kill yourself...
Bought a VSX 01 for $600 and b/c of incredible deal returned & upgraded to SC 05 for only $400.00 more, (worth it MacFan, the Class D ICE Amp alone is worth it). I hope you guys can return yours to get the same deal I just got.

I need your assistance (MVP, MACFAN, AXXIS) So I have the SC 05, got a KILLER deal on Mythos I (black), but need your inputs to decide on Center, Sub, and Rears. My surrounds will be BP2X (5 1/4"). Chet said I should use those for Rears too, but not sure of that. For Center, I know to get the Mythos 8 from both Chet and your inputs, however the 8 operates 38Hz-30kHz w/ Xover 80Hz & the CLR 2002 ops @ 30Hz-30kHz w/ Xover 60Hz or even possibly better the CLR 2300 from 21 Hz-30kHz with a Xover FULL BANDWIDTH. What do you guys think of this? CLR's are big, bulky, not as nice & neat as the 8 which could lie (Horizontally...Macfan) in front of the TV (Samsung 61" DLP LED 7Series) What do these different frequencies/bandwidth mean for sound?

Also I was torn between the SC II (14Hz-200Hz)and SC I (13Hz-200Hz) Subs wondering if the $200.00 extra cost for the I is worth it for the 10" over the 8" and 250 watts? Would I "FEEL" the difference in booms (takeoffs, explosions etc) between the 2? I am open to 2 subs, but that would be definetely down the road. Also you guys have talked alot about SVS, Velodyne and HSU's so you're suggestions are welcomed. I was just trying to keep it ALL IN THE FAMILY so to speak.

For rears someone had a good post about the bass radiators in the GEM XL's/Studio 350/450 (localization issues) not matching Mythos & thus keeping them separate from the sub. (I'll look that back up, as I may not be clear on this). I am considering the Pro 1000's also 5 1/4", Gem XL's, Studio 350 or 450 or maybe even Mythos 8's or BP6B's/BP8B's (22/25 Hz-30kHz Xover full bandwidth) for rears. My concerns are do the rears make that much difference, or could I get noticeable improvement going with a bigger floor/wall speaker for rears? Or would that be merely overkill?

AudioJohn when you had the Mythos I with the SC II, do you think the problem was the limitations of the Mythos I, or was the SC II inadequate? Also what were you pushing for power? A/V RCVR, Pre Amp? (A bit leery on this issue b/c some run the Mythos I's with SC II and it rocks ie HarleyRider) Your additional troubleshooting thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Also I was looking at powering my Mythos I's with an EMotiva 2ch 250watt amp, but Chet said he didn't think I needed it, that the SC 05 is plentiful to power the Mythos I's. Haven't read anything on preamping these or even bi-amping them (if that's possible), any inputs?

Thank You all very much and I look forward to reading replies, sharing knowledge & photos.
post #403 of 5540
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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

MVP 2005 FAN MACFAN424 AXXIS AUDIO JOHN

You may have to click on this to see full message. 5 short paragraphs. Please read. Thanks.

Thank You for your dedication & sharing. I've been up all night reading this entire forum from pages 1-14. I am new to the forum & yearning to learn & share with the commitment you all exhibit. First: MVP (I know you just got a Yammy), but anyone in the market for a Pioneer Elite A/V RCVR PM me right away, I am honoring the code of the forums by not disclosing price (FilmMixer). However if you are in the market for a VSX 01, VSX 03, SC 05, or SC 07 that are brand new & from an authorized dealer... PM me for details. Without disclosing figures, let's just say up to $800.00 off! No strings or MIR. You can run there, or make it a Cannonball Run, but don't kill yourself...
Bought a VSX 01 for $600 and b/c of incredible deal returned & upgraded to SC 05 for only $400.00 more, (worth it MacFan, the Class D ICE Amp alone is worth it). I hope you guys can return yours to get the same deal I just got.

I need your assistance (MVP, MACFAN, AXXIS) So I have the SC 05, got a KILLER deal on Mythos I (black), but need your inputs to decide on Center, Sub, and Rears. My surrounds will be BP2X (5 1/4"). Chet said I should use those for Rears too, but not sure of that. For Center, I know to get the Mythos 8 from both Chet and your inputs, however the 8 operates 38Hz-30kHz w/ Xover 80Hz & the CLR 2002 ops @ 30Hz-30kHz w/ Xover 60Hz or even possibly better the CLR 2300 from 21 Hz-30kHz with a Xover FULL BANDWIDTH. What do you guys think of this? CLR's are big, bulky, not as nice & neat as the 8 which could lie (Horizontally...Macfan) in front of the TV (Samsung 61" DLP LED 7Series) What do these different frequencies/bandwidth mean for sound?

Also I was torn between the SC II (14Hz-200Hz)and SC I (13Hz-200Hz) Subs wondering if the $200.00 extra cost for the I is worth it for the 10" over the 8" and 250 watts? Would I "FEEL" the difference in booms (takeoffs, explosions etc) between the 2? I am open to 2 subs, but that would be definetely down the road. Also you guys have talked alot about SVS, Velodyne and HSU's so you're suggestions are welcomed. I was just trying to keep it ALL IN THE FAMILY so to speak.

For rears someone had a good post about the bass radiators in the GEM XL's/Studio 350/450 (localization issues) not matching Mythos & thus keeping them separate from the sub. (I'll look that back up, as I may not be clear on this). I am considering the Pro 1000's also 5 1/4", Gem XL's, Studio 350 or 450 or maybe even Mythos 8's or BP6B's/BP8B's (22/25 Hz-30kHz Xover full bandwidth) for rears. My concerns are do the rears make that much difference, or could I get noticeable improvement going with a bigger floor/wall speaker for rears? Or would that be merely overkill?

AudioJohn when you had the Mythos I with the SC II, do you think the problem was the limitations of the Mythos I, or was the SC II inadequate? Also what were you pushing for power? A/V RCVR, Pre Amp? (A bit leery on this issue b/c some run the Mythos I's with SC II and it rocks ie HarleyRider) Your additional troubleshooting thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Also I was looking at powering my Mythos I's with an EMotiva 2ch 250watt amp, but Chet said he didn't think I needed it, that the SC 05 is plentiful to power the Mythos I's. Haven't read anything on preamping these or even bi-amping them (if that's possible), any inputs?

Thank You all very much and I look forward to reading replies, sharing knowledge & photos.

Best Buy has had those prices on the Elite's for about 2 weeks now, and with no interest financing lol, its no secret.

and about the center channel, the point is to get a matching design. You could go with the CLR's but its not a perfect match. The Mythos Three is the proper match for the Mythos One's you just got. Frequency specs tell you how low and how high the speaker will get. But don't dwell on that to much, especially the low frequencies for the center channel since you will be crossing it over with your sub anyway.
post #404 of 5540
Newbie here..I finally got the chance to hear the STS's and I am a believer now. I havent heard the Mythos ten center however I have heard Klispch RC- 64 and it blew me away. Is this center ok with the STS's or what are your suggestions, please help
post #405 of 5540
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Originally Posted by stewdawg View Post

Newbie here..I finally got the chance to hear the STS's and I am a believer now. I havent heard the Mythos ten center however I have heard Klispch RC- 64 and it blew me away. Is this center ok with the STS's or what are your suggestions, please help

The matching center for the STS's is the Mythos Nine.

I would definately NOT use the Klipsch RC-64 with the STS's. Although its a great Center, its not a correct match with Def Tech. Klipsch uses a horn and DT uses a traditional aluminium tweeter. Totally different sound characteristics. Stick with the Mythos Nine
post #406 of 5540
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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

MVP 2005 FAN MACFAN424 AXXIS AUDIO JOHN

You may have to click on this to see full message. 5 short paragraphs. Please read. Thanks.

Thank You for your dedication & sharing. I've been up all night reading this entire forum from pages 1-14. I am new to the forum & yearning to learn & share with the commitment you all exhibit. First: MVP (I know you just got a Yammy), but anyone in the market for a Pioneer Elite A/V RCVR PM me right away, I am honoring the code of the forums by not disclosing price (FilmMixer). However if you are in the market for a VSX 01, VSX 03, SC 05, or SC 07 that are brand new & from an authorized dealer... PM me for details. Without disclosing figures, let's just say up to $800.00 off! No strings or MIR. You can run there, or make it a Cannonball Run, but don't kill yourself...
Bought a VSX 01 for $600 and b/c of incredible deal returned & upgraded to SC 05 for only $400.00 more, (worth it MacFan, the Class D ICE Amp alone is worth it). I hope you guys can return yours to get the same deal I just got.

I need your assistance (MVP, MACFAN, AXXIS) So I have the SC 05, got a KILLER deal on Mythos I (black), but need your inputs to decide on Center, Sub, and Rears. My surrounds will be BP2X (5 1/4"). Chet said I should use those for Rears too, but not sure of that. For Center, I know to get the Mythos 8 from both Chet and your inputs, however the 8 operates 38Hz-30kHz w/ Xover 80Hz & the CLR 2002 ops @ 30Hz-30kHz w/ Xover 60Hz or even possibly better the CLR 2300 from 21 Hz-30kHz with a Xover FULL BANDWIDTH. What do you guys think of this? CLR's are big, bulky, not as nice & neat as the 8 which could lie (Horizontally...Macfan) in front of the TV (Samsung 61" DLP LED 7Series) What do these different frequencies/bandwidth mean for sound?

Also I was torn between the SC II (14Hz-200Hz)and SC I (13Hz-200Hz) Subs wondering if the $200.00 extra cost for the I is worth it for the 10" over the 8" and 250 watts? Would I "FEEL" the difference in booms (takeoffs, explosions etc) between the 2? I am open to 2 subs, but that would be definetely down the road. Also you guys have talked alot about SVS, Velodyne and HSU's so you're suggestions are welcomed. I was just trying to keep it ALL IN THE FAMILY so to speak.

For rears someone had a good post about the bass radiators in the GEM XL's/Studio 350/450 (localization issues) not matching Mythos & thus keeping them separate from the sub. (I'll look that back up, as I may not be clear on this). I am considering the Pro 1000's also 5 1/4", Gem XL's, Studio 350 or 450 or maybe even Mythos 8's or BP6B's/BP8B's (22/25 Hz-30kHz Xover full bandwidth) for rears. My concerns are do the rears make that much difference, or could I get noticeable improvement going with a bigger floor/wall speaker for rears? Or would that be merely overkill?

AudioJohn when you had the Mythos I with the SC II, do you think the problem was the limitations of the Mythos I, or was the SC II inadequate? Also what were you pushing for power? A/V RCVR, Pre Amp? (A bit leery on this issue b/c some run the Mythos I's with SC II and it rocks ie HarleyRider) Your additional troubleshooting thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Also I was looking at powering my Mythos I's with an EMotiva 2ch 250watt amp, but Chet said he didn't think I needed it, that the SC 05 is plentiful to power the Mythos I's. Haven't read anything on preamping these or even bi-amping them (if that's possible), any inputs?

Thank You all very much and I look forward to reading replies, sharing knowledge & photos.

I have a 7.1 Definitive system with STS for mains, 10 for center and 4 GEM XL for surrounds & rear. IMO there are better alternatives (value) than Definitive for subs. Check out SVS, HSU, Outlaw & Elemental Designs They are all direct retailers. I personally chose 2 HSU ULS-15's. I recommend visiting the sub forum. As always a ton of great opinions. The Definitive's have a nice form factor (small) but I think there are limitations because of size.
post #407 of 5540
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Originally Posted by Bigred7078 View Post

The matching center for the STS's is the Mythos Nine.

As was the Ten before the Nine was released.. for me, the difference in price was low enough to make it a no brainer.

Having had my STS/Tens setup for a couple of weeks now, I have to say this I'm very pleased...

The imaging is fantastic, and the center is really well matched with the towers.

The top end is really crisp, with no signs of strain, and really easy to listen to at reference levels..

Still setting them to small and using a crossover of 80Hz for the mains.... I have a medium sized room (16x22) with a front end open on both sides... while the STS's have great low end, in my setup, I need a sub to get me the slam I'm used to.. this isn't a ding against the STS's, just that my room is very challenging...

Very happy with these speakers, and looking forward to many more hours of listening (when and if work slows down.)

My only complaint is that the STS's are making me rethink my surround solution... my Rocket 550's aren't mating as well with the fronts, and it might be time to update those also.
post #408 of 5540
Are the nines and tens preatty much the same center or whats the differance?
post #409 of 5540
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Originally Posted by stewdawg View Post

Are the nines and tens preatty much the same center or whats the differance?

Nine- have two 4.5" drivers and two 4.5 x 8" bass radiators

Ten- have two 5.25" drivers and two 5" x 8" bass radiators
post #410 of 5540
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Originally Posted by Mantis10 View Post

Great looking install, did you do it yourself? It looks professional. I see your liking the Gem xl's. I'm considering them for my rears or just using 3 Mythos 9's. Where is the sub?

Dan

I have this problem, I can't see paying someone to do something that I could do myself. I build cabinets in my free time, but also do all my own electrical, painting, etc. Thanks for the kind words.

The sub is in the back corner behind the end table.
post #411 of 5540
Seen lots of questions on what surrounds to mate with the mythos line and wanted to throw in another DeTech option.....I previously had a pair of gems and a seven up front mated to four UIW BP/A's on the side and rear. Sound was very solid on pans from front to back side to side, etc. Never felt like there was any voicing issues between the different DT speakers. This is not to say that matching gems would of been bad either but I really liked how the in-walls dissappeared. I also like the bipolar sound of the UIW BP/A's as side and rear speakers. FYI.....all walls that the UIW's were mounted into are fully insulated.

MY STS's and nine should be here in a few days and I'll let everyone know how they blend with the in-walls but I really doubt there'll be any issues.

Joe
post #412 of 5540
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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

MVP 2005 FAN MACFAN424 AXXIS AUDIO JOHN

You may have to click on this to see full message. 5 short paragraphs. Please read. Thanks.

...upgraded to SC 05 for only $400.00 more, (worth it MacFan, the Class D ICE Amp alone is worth it).

Now you tell me!

Actually, at current prices I would have upgraded to an 05 or 07, but at the time my return option ran out, the 05 cost more than twice as much and the 07 more than triple. With the efficiency of the STS's, I couldn't justify that much of a premium, although I did ask other members to talk me into it.

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

I need your assistance (MVP, MACFAN, AXXIS) So I have the SC 05, got a KILLER deal on Mythos I (black), but need your inputs to decide on Center, Sub, and Rears. My surrounds will be BP2X (5 1/4"). Chet said I should use those for Rears too, but not sure of that. For Center, I know to get the Mythos 8 from both Chet and your inputs... What do these different frequencies/bandwidth mean for sound?

I'm sure the CLR's would be fine, but I'd still stick to the matching design, the Eight. The different bandwidths aren't too important if you are using a subwoofer and a conventional 80Hz crossover. At least it is less important than getting as close a match as possible between your L/R and your center. Voicing differences there will be much more noticeable than any difference in low end response.

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

Also I was torn between the SC II (14Hz-200Hz)and SC I (13Hz-200Hz) Subs wondering if the $200.00 extra cost for the I is worth it for the 10" over the 8" and 250 watts? Would I "FEEL" the difference in booms (takeoffs, explosions etc) between the 2? I am open to 2 subs, but that would be definetely down the road. Also you guys have talked alot about SVS, Velodyne and HSU's so you're suggestions are welcomed. I was just trying to keep it ALL IN THE FAMILY so to speak.

First, DefTech is wildly optimistic in their published frequency responses. The reported +/- 3dB figure of 20Hz for the SC I and 25Hz for the SC II is a more realistic representation of what they can do. I think you'd find the SC I worth it's extra cost in the long run, although I admit to a bias as I believe a separate subwoofer should reach at least 20Hz +/- 3dB.

Unlike the center, there is nothing to be gained by matching a sub to the same brand of mains. There is no rap against the DefTechs. They are fine little subwoofers. It's just that they tend to be pricey. You generally can get more bang for you buck with the likes of SVS, Hsu and others. For example, the SVS SB12-Plus is competitive is all respects with the SC I, but sells for little more than half its MSRP. If you have space, one of the bigger (but not necessarily more expensive) models would give you even more slam. In the SC I's price range, there are a number of excellent alternatives.

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

... My concerns are do the rears make that much difference, or could I get noticeable improvement going with a bigger floor/wall speaker for rears? Or would that be merely overkill?

There are times when the bigger speakers might be advantageous, but if if you need to keep costs down, here's the best place to do it. Probably 95% of the time the rears are just filling in. They rarely carry as much of the load as the sides. Certainly the BP2X's would be fine there, although I prefer a monopole in the rear. The best match to your fronts would be the GemXL's (which are not monopoles), but Gem's or even Pro 1000's would be fine if you want to keep costs down.

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

...I was looking at powering my Mythos I's with an EMotiva 2ch 250watt amp, but Chet said he didn't think I needed it, that the SC 05 is plentiful to power the Mythos I's. Haven't read anything on preamping these or even bi-amping them (if that's possible), any inputs?

There are no inputs for bi-amping. There are different schools of thought about the value of a separate amp, but, FWIW, I'm with Chet on this. Besides, you bought your 05 because of it's ICE amp. Why not take advantage of it?
post #413 of 5540
Thread Starter 
Hi, KeenQuality-- I'll try to answer the specific questions addressed to me and let the other folks handle the rest

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

I need your assistance (MVP, MACFAN, AXXIS) CLR's are big, bulky, not as nice & neat as the 8 which could lie (Horizontally...Macfan) in front of the TV (Samsung 61" DLP LED 7Series) What do these different frequencies/bandwidth mean for sound?

I have a pair of Ones as my mains, and the Eights use exactly the same drivers as the Ones--together they form a very cohesive soundfield accross the front, and I'd recommend the Eight as the first center to consider with the Ones (although, as others have pointed out, the Three works very well there as well--as would some of the other Mythos centers).

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

Also I was torn between the SC II (14Hz-200Hz)and SC I (13Hz-200Hz) Subs...Would I "FEEL" the difference in booms (takeoffs, explosions etc) between the 2?. . .Also you guys have talked alot about SVS, Velodyne and HSU's so you're suggestions are welcomed.

I'm pretty biased towards SVS, since I ended up with 2 of their PC-12 Pluses--they mate with the Mythos system very well, and I think you get more bang for the buck than with the Def Techs. Just my humble opinion (I wrote a review of my dual subs in the subwoofer section--search in the thread "The New PC-12 Plus" if you are interested--my post is on the last page as of this writing). Hsu is also known for making extremely good subs for the money. Velodyne makes killer subs, but they tend to be on the more pricey side.

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

For rears someone had a good post about the bass radiators in the GEM XL's/Studio 350/450 (localization issues) not matching Mythos & thus keeping them separate from the sub. My concerns are do the rears make that much difference, or could I get noticeable improvement going with a bigger floor/wall speaker for rears? Or would that be merely overkill?

To me, the side surrounds are more important than the rear surrounds at the present time. Few blu-rays have true 7.1. Having said that, the Gem XL's actually work very well with the Mythos lines (because they are part of that line). If you are movie person, it would be hard to beat 4 Gem XL's. (See my post a few posts above for more details). Having said all of that, if I had to conserve $$$ in any place in my system, it would be in the surrounds. I think a good rule of thumb is to put the bulk of your cash in a system towards the speakers with center>>mains>>sub>>side surrounds>>rear surrounds in importance.

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Originally Posted by KeenQuality View Post

Thank You all very much and I look forward to reading replies, sharing knowledge & photos.

No prob--glad to have you aboard!
post #414 of 5540
Hi,

My brother is struggling between 2 x 7002 like mine or 2 x Mythos STS

Is anyone has experience with both and can comment?

Is the sound of the Mythos are really as good as the reviews state?

Thanks for your help.

Eric
post #415 of 5540
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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

Hi,

My brother is struggling between 2 x 7002 like mine or 2 x Mythos STS

Is anyone has experience with both and can comment?

They are entirely different in concept and produce very different sound fields, so the choice is a matter of personal preference. To oversimplify, the most striking distinction is that the bipolar 7002's provide a "large," room filling sound, while the monopolar STS's feature extraordinarily precise imagining. Not to say either is lacking on either characteristic compared to competitive speakers, only that they have different emphasis compared to each other. Your brother should really try to listen to them both to decide which better suits his tastes.

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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

the sound of the Mythos are really as good as the reviews state?

Yes.
post #416 of 5540
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Originally Posted by ramador View Post

Hey guys new to the forum just pulled the trigger on:

Mythos 2 (L/R)
Mythos 3 (C)
Gem XL's (surround)

If i decide to go 7.1 what do you recomend for side surrounds meaning moving Gems to rear surrounds( By the way HiDefLifestyle.com has great prices, all five speakers $1500)

Welcome! That's my set up, except for Gem surrounds (not XL's). I love it and would highly recommend another pair of Gem XL's for your side surrounds. They disperse extremely well due to the offset mid drivers, so I wouldn't worry about needing dipoles. I'm staying pat with 5.1 for now but may add another set of Gems at some point for 7.1.

Good luck!
post #417 of 5540
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

They are entirely different in concept and produce very different sound fields, so the choice is a matter of personal preference. To oversimplify, the most striking distinction is that the bipolar 7002's provide a "large," room filling sound, while the monopolar STS's feature extraordinarily precise imagining. Not to say either is lacking on either characteristic compared to competitive speakers, only that they have different emphasis compared to each other. Your brother should really try to listen to them both to decide which better suits his tastes.

Yes.

Thanks for the information.

Is listening will be almost 100% movies...

Another question: He already has 2 x BPX for is surround, does this can blend with the STS?

Thanks,

Eric
post #418 of 5540
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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

...Another question: He already has 2 x BPX for is surround, does this can blend with the STS?

I asked DefTech about that when I was trying to decide what I wanted to do about surrounds. Their first recommendation was the GemXL, second was the BP2X. They also mentioned the Gems and the BP1.2X, but agreed they were less well suited to my preferred 80Hz crossover. They said any of these "will provide a solid match to the STS."
post #419 of 5540
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

I asked DefTech about that when I was trying to decide what I wanted to do about surrounds. Their first recommendation was the GemXL, second was the BP2X. They also mentioned the Gems and the BP1.2X, but agreed they were less well suited to my preferred 80Hz crossover. They said any of these "will provide a solid match to the STS."

Here is what I suggest you do for rears with STS mains. Use the Mythos 9, same as the center channel. It's a perfect match and for sacd /dvd audio it's awesome. Having the same speaker all around is very involving. I plan on using the Mythos 10's as surrounds with my Mythos St mains.

Dan
post #420 of 5540
Looking for recommendations for rears in a 5.1 configuration. Fronts will be Mythos 1's and center will be Mythos 8. Thanks for the input.
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