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post #4471 of 5241
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Originally Posted by coolplazma View Post

there are a lot of people here who use mythos "centers" (ones...tens) for surrounds and even sts or st for surrounds. The arguement that surrounds are just for girls is a bit light in the pants. Grow a pair and tell your wifey you are installing some painfully ugly towers right next to her china cabinet.

hahaha yes, do this.
post #4472 of 5241
Heard back from Chet about Mythos ST's buzzing when plugged in. He said 5-10 minutes of buzzing is normal while the subwoofer amp charges. Anything longer than that is likely a defective amp. He's shipping me two replacement amps for me to install.
post #4473 of 5241
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Originally Posted by kopkiwi View Post

Looking at upgrading my current Mission system and didn't know it but can actually get Def Tech in NZ, which is awesome. Looking at a system consisting of the Mythos 4, Mythos 7 or 3 and the GEM XL. Can't find reviews ANYWHERE from the Mythos 4, can anyone point me in the direction of some, or at least give some thoughts onto the speakers?

Will be driven with Emotiva UPA-2.

Thanks all.

Anyone?
post #4474 of 5241
Hi all,

I just bought a pair of Mythos ST for use in my new house's living room. I currently also have a SC1 in my current HT but will be replaced in the new house's HT (most likely a SVS sub this time).

Therefore, I'm wondering will I gain anything, if at all, to use the SC1 along with the ST in the living room? I believe the ST is about the same performance (extension & output) as the SC1 from what I've read. They are mainly for TV & music only, movie will be restricted in the HT . And I don't need the lowest nor the loudest bass in the living room neither. May be I should sell the SC1 and save some money instead??

Thanks in advance guys!
post #4475 of 5241
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Originally Posted by landshark1 View Post

Hi all,

I just bought a pair of Mythos ST for use in my new house's living room. I currently also have a SC1 in my current HT but will be replaced in the new house's HT (most likely a SVS sub this time).

Therefore, I'm wondering will I gain anything, if at all, to use the SC1 along with the ST in the living room? I believe the ST is about the same performance (extension & output) as the SC1 from what I've read. They are mainly for TV & music only, movie will be restricted in the HT . And I don't need the lowest nor the loudest bass in the living room neither. May be I should sell the SC1 and save some money instead??

Thanks in advance guys!


The Mythos ST towers will not have the same performance as the SC1. The SC1 is must better with a bigger driver and more power. For just music and TV viewing the Mythos are more than capable unless you have a huge living room then a external sub will help.
post #4476 of 5241
I currently have an 8040 center speaker. Which Mythos speaker would be a good replacement for this?
post #4477 of 5241
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Originally Posted by Ericthemidget View Post

I currently have an 8040 center speaker. Which Mythos speaker would be a good replacement for this?

I don't own an 8040, but I don't know if any will. I have a Mythos 8 and owned a LCR2300. Maybe the 10 will, but I would try it out. I don't thank any of the centers are powerful enough for their mains. I also don't find them very clear.
post #4478 of 5241
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Originally Posted by Ericthemidget View Post

I currently have an 8040 center speaker. Which Mythos speaker would be a good replacement for this?

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Originally Posted by LowellG View Post

I don't own an 8040, but I don't know if any will. I have a Mythos 8 and owned a LCR2300. Maybe the 10 will, but I would try it out. I don't thank any of the centers are powerful enough for their mains. I also don't find them very clear.


The 8080cs is my favorite Def Tech center. IMO its much better than any of the Mythos centers and it can keep up with the mains.

Eric which mains are you running?
post #4479 of 5241
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Originally Posted by leroyjr1 View Post

The Mythos ST towers will not have the same performance as the SC1. The SC1 is must better with a bigger driver and more power. For just music and TV viewing the Mythos are more than capable unless you have a huge living room then a external sub will help.

That's what I thought initially too. But according to some review/test, the ST's -3db point in around mid-low 30hz, and the SC1 isn't much better than that (probably -3db @ low 30hz or high 20hz). That's why I thought the SC1 doesn't really bring much to the table for the ST.

But anyway, I think I'll give it a try when I move in. If not, I'll just sell it, or if I want more bass and keeping the small form factor, I'll sell it & get a F12SE then.

Thanks again.
post #4480 of 5241
A couple of thoughts on some recent changes in my setup...

1. I got a new couch. It is lower to the ground and is a little less deep than the previous. It is odd but my surrounds sound livelier and I felt like maybe I needed to re-do Audyssey. My center doesn't sound as good. It is interesting after talking about environment so much in this thread and it's effect on your listening space.

2. Bass. I had setup bass shakers in the new couch and I am underwhelmed. The contact it makes with the couch isn't quite as good as the last. For now I have simply turned them up a bit to compensate. I think between the bass shakers and the STS's bass settings via audyssey I was happy...I then started to play around with bass settings when I remembered that some people here have mentioned they dial the bass knob to 1 o'clock. Audyssey has me set it to around 10...So I think I sort of excepted the bass output at 10 o'clock because Audyssey told me that is the correct amount of bass....but wow...I put it to 1 and now I don't even want to buy a separate sub!

One question, since turning up my sub I have noticed some irregular sound from one of my tower's woofers. I took a closer look and it seems that there is more excursion (that means forward movement, correct?) out of the one with the funny noise than the other. Does this mean that the coil is bad or that it is dying/failing?

Also the SubDude product, would that be recommended for STS's? I sometimes see that my towers still move physically by themselves. And also I had been reading user reviews about how these help with apartments and vibrations...and possibly make subs sound better.

Thanks
post #4481 of 5241
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Originally Posted by FantaXP7 View Post

A couple of thoughts on some recent changes in my setup...

1. I got a new couch. It is lower to the ground and is a little less deep than the previous. It is odd but my surrounds sound livelier and I felt like maybe I needed to re-do Audyssey. My center doesn't sound as good. It is interesting after talking about environment so much in this thread and it's effect on your listening space.

2. Bass. I had setup bass shakers in the new couch and I am underwhelmed. The contact it makes with the couch isn't quite as good as the last. For now I have simply turned them up a bit to compensate. I think between the bass shakers and the STS's bass settings via audyssey I was happy...I then started to play around with bass settings when I remembered that some people here have mentioned they dial the bass knob to 1 o'clock. Audyssey has me set it to around 10...So I think I sort of excepted the bass output at 10 o'clock because Audyssey told me that is the correct amount of bass....but wow...I put it to 1 and now I don't even want to buy a separate sub!

One question, since turning up my sub I have noticed some irregular sound from one of my tower's woofers. I took a closer look and it seems that there is more excursion (that means forward movement, correct?) out of the one with the funny noise than the other. Does this mean that the coil is bad or that it is dying/failing?

Also the SubDude product, would that be recommended for STS's? I sometimes see that my towers still move physically by themselves. And also I had been reading user reviews about how these help with apartments and vibrations...and possibly make subs sound better.

Thanks

I don't think the irregular sound you are getting is anything going bad or failing. It is more likely that the sub amp is reaching it's clipping point and/or the drivers are over extending. Just back the dial down slightly until that you no longer hear that noise. It's more of trial by error on the adjustment.
post #4482 of 5241
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post

I don't think the irregular sound you are getting is anything going bad or failing. It is more likely that the sub amp is reaching it's clipping point and/or the drivers are over extending. Just back the dial down slightly until that you no longer hear that noise. It's more of trial by error on the adjustment.

Yeah, the sub dial on the ST(S) is very sensitive. Going from 10:00 to 1:00 is HUGE.

I would go back to 10:00 and raise the dials on both by :30 at a time until it starts sounding a bit bloated. At that point, back it off :15 and you should be set.
post #4483 of 5241
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post

I don't think the irregular sound you are getting is anything going bad or failing. It is more likely that the sub amp is reaching it's clipping point and/or the drivers are over extending. Just back the dial down slightly until that you no longer hear that noise. It's more of trial by error on the adjustment.

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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Yeah, the sub dial on the ST(S) is very sensitive. Going from 10:00 to 1:00 is HUGE.

I would go back to 10:00 and raise the dials on both by :30 at a time until it starts sounding a bit bloated. At that point, back it off :15 and you should be set.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I really like the amount of bass I am hearing now...But I will play around with it.

I wonder though why I would hear a noise on one of the two towers and see more movement than the other, which is dialed in at the same point?
post #4484 of 5241
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Originally Posted by FantaXP7 View Post

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I really like the amount of bass I am hearing now...But I will play around with it.

I wonder though why I would hear a noise on one of the two towers and see more movement than the other, which is dialed in at the same point?

Although bass is nondirectional your Towers are receiving a different signal from the Receiver. One side is getting a stronger signal than the other. Also one Sub Amp in one Tower can be a little more sensitive than the other. It's really not a problem. I wouldn't worry about it.
post #4485 of 5241
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Originally Posted by Maddmaster View Post

Although bass is nondirectional your Towers are receiving a different signal from the Receiver. One side is getting a stronger signal than the other. Also one Sub Amp in one Tower can be a little more sensitive than the other. It's really not a problem. I wouldn't worry about it.

Thanks Maddmaster that is reassuring.
post #4486 of 5241
Hi all,
I bought a pair of Mythos Two for use in my house's living room.
I wanted to buy as a center speaker Mythos XTR-40. It may be fine? thanks
post #4487 of 5241
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Originally Posted by campusone View Post

Hi all,
I bought a pair of Mythos Two for use in my house's living room.
I wanted to buy as a center speaker Mythos XTR-40. It may be fine? thanks


I haven't yet heard that extra flat series of Mythos, but I would check out the Definitive Technology CS-8080...People here seem to agree that it is one of the better centers supplied by Def Tech.

You can find an incredible deal on refurbished ones from bajawaverunner on ebay every once in awhile. I plan to pick one up myself. I currently have the Mythos 10. The price of the refurb cs-8080 is just a little bit more than what a google search turned up for the XTR-40 you mention.
post #4488 of 5241
was looking for a compact solution for the center channel .. I have space problems
post #4489 of 5241
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Originally Posted by campusone View Post

was looking for a compact solution for the center channel .. I have space problems

Hi Campus,
The XTR-40 will be a fine center channel if you have space issues. Fanta is right to point out that the CS-8080 (which I love) would sound much better, but it's a trade-off of cosmetics vs. performance. If you have space issues, you do what you can do...
Best, Joe
post #4490 of 5241
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Originally Posted by Joe@Definitive View Post

Hi Campus,
The XTR-40 will be a fine center channel if you have space issues. Fanta is right to point out that the CS-8080 (which I love) would sound much better, but it's a trade-off of cosmetics vs. performance. If you have space issues, you do what you can do...
Best, Joe

Thanks Joe,
Your opinion the Mythos Seven center with Two L/R would be fine? Thanks again.
post #4491 of 5241
Yes, enjoy!
post #4492 of 5241
It looks like the Mythos 4 and 5 are being discontinued and there are some good prices around. Is there much difference in the quality of sound between these two? What center channel, subwoofer and surrounds have people matched these with? Thanks for any info?
post #4493 of 5241
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Originally Posted by landshark1 View Post

Hi all,

I just bought a pair of Mythos ST for use in my new house's living room. I currently also have a SC1 in my current HT but will be replaced in the new house's HT (most likely a SVS sub this time).

Therefore, I'm wondering will I gain anything, if at all, to use the SC1 along with the ST in the living room? I believe the ST is about the same performance (extension & output) as the SC1 from what I've read. They are mainly for TV & music only, movie will be restricted in the HT . And I don't need the lowest nor the loudest bass in the living room neither. May be I should sell the SC1 and save some money instead??

Thanks in advance guys!

FYI, Chet just got back to me to confirm that 2x ST is comparable in bass output as 1 Supercube I! I guess I'll just sell my SC1 to get some $$ back since I don't need, and it won't provide(!), ultra low bass anyway. Or I might sell the SC1 and get a Rymthik F12SE instead. Either way, I don't think I'll be keep the SC1.

Here's what he said:
Next, the overall bass output of two ST towers is comparable to one SuperCube I...With this in mind, most likely, you won't need a separate subwoofer with the ST towers. (Of course, you could always add a separate subwoofer if you'd like. This would increase the bass output or impact from your system.)
post #4494 of 5241
I've just purchased the this Mythos setup.

1 pair Mythos Six (front)
1 pcs Mythos Seven (center)
1 pcs ProSub 800
1 pair DI 5.5S (rear)

But as the Six where out of stock, I have to wait a mouth before the package are delievered. In the mean time I'll look for a reciever.

I had set my mind on a Pioneer VSX-921 which was sold at a very good price here locally, but they are out of stock and it won't return until the end of March. I choose the 921 because of good reviews value for the money. But as the 921 is out of stock I have to make som choices.
1. I could turn back to the other alternative I considered Onkyo TV-NR579, to have Airplay I must buy Apple TV, which would be superior to the Pioneer Airplay. The 579 sells for the same low price as the Pioneer.
2. I could buy the VSX-921 elsewhere at a higher price.

Both recievers are obviously nice recievers which seems quite similar in power and features. Have anybody tried these or a sister model from Onkyo or Pioneer with the Def Tech Mythos series and would like to have word on the experience.

Does anybody know how the Multi Zone works on these recievers. When seeing a movie using PS3 via HDMI is it possible to stream music via Airplay/ DLNA/ Netradio or use a network-drive to the other zone.

Surely recievers from Denon, Yamaha, Sony, HK, etc could have been alternatives, but due to local prices or missing features they aren't atm.
post #4495 of 5241
One of my "subs" is making a very soft muttering sound. Soft enough that I can only hear it in the evening with everything off (or if I put my head right up to the (silent) speaker). Has anyone else had this or a similar problem?
post #4496 of 5241
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

One of my "subs" is making a very soft muttering sound. Soft enough that I can only hear it in the evening with everything off (or if I put my head right up to the (silent) speaker). Has anyone else had this or a similar problem?

I haven't experienced it or noticed. Is it still there if the speaker cable is disconnected?
post #4497 of 5241
For those using GemXL, what kind of stands do you use? I've talked to Chet, and he advice against the standard Gem stands for the GemXL. Instead, he recommended the Omnimount Gem1 stands. But I want to see what other's opinion is first.
post #4498 of 5241
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Originally Posted by landshark1 View Post

For those using GemXL, what kind of stands do you use?

I use the Gem stands. They're okay. The're short so the speakers are unlikely to tip -- but they're short. They won't take my usual banana plugs so I'm using pins. I prefer the (rather plain) look of the ProStands (I also have ProMonitor 1000s). I think the XLs look a bit odd hanging off the front of the stand.
post #4499 of 5241
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

One of my "subs" is making a very soft muttering sound.

Chet encouraged me to check my access points and indeed one of them was supplying some stray RF. I moved it a bit further away and Bob's your uncle.
post #4500 of 5241
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Originally Posted by kimare View Post

I've just purchased the this Mythos setup.

1 pair Mythos Six (front)
1 pcs Mythos Seven (center)
1 pcs ProSub 800
1 pair DI 5.5S (rear)

But as the Six where out of stock, I have to wait a mouth before the package are delievered. In the mean time I'll look for a reciever.

Alright I've done some re-thinking. Most companies are most likely to release new recievers this spring, Onkyo have already annonced their budget line up. Hopefully I'll be able to snatch one of the current models on sale

Now I'm looking for a receiver that would justify my set, I would prefer Internet radio and smartphone app.

I've been in contact with Def Tech and this is the answer Chet Pelkowski gave me.
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Thanks for your recent email to Definitive Technology. Firs, our Mythos speakers sound clear and detailed - bordering on the brighter side.....

Next, we have found that amplifiers or receivers that use a "high current" design in their power amp section work well with Definitive loudspeakers and generally sound better. The best way to determine whether a given model is "high current" or not is to look at the wattage specs. High current models have much higher wattage ratings into 4 ohms than into 8 ohms. High current amplifiers or receivers are also comfortable driving 6 ohm speakers - which accurately describes the impedance of our speakers. (6 ohm speakers also draw more current and are harder to drive than 8 ohm speakers.)

Any help would be appreciated.
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