Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread - Page 170

Originally Posted by Maddmaster 

Tahoe Cindy, it looks like you would have to put rear surrounds in the ceiling if you go with a 5.1 instead of the 3.1 setup.

If a 52 inch will fit in that space go for it.

Originally Posted by Tahoe Cindy 

Thanks for the reply! I was also thinking floor speakers in the rear. But not sure how the furniture will accommodate that?

Originally Posted by Spock1234 

Bummer!

I can't help wondering how much better the STS would sound with the improved mid-range drivers.

Originally Posted by Mantis10 

I have heard nothing of them upgrading the Mythos line. Next time I see our rep , I'll ask him.
Honestly I think there is nothing wrong with the ST/STS or any of the newer Mythos series speakers. If anything I would update the Gem / Gem XL series and add a true bipolar surround speaker to the lineup to perfectly match the ST/STS.
On the other hand using the Mythos 9 or 10 as a surround and center channel is a perfect match and with the huge dispersion of those speakers , bipolar is really not necessary in most cases.

I also don't think the new BP series speakers sound as good or better then the Mythos series. I have compare the 8060 to the STS and felt the STS is a better musical speaker. I do however love the BP series and think for theater they are the fantastic. I'm still not sold on music reproduction on them. They are better then the 7000 series of years ago for music. They made some very nice mid range improvements.

Originally Posted by Mantis10 

I have heard nothing of them upgrading the Mythos line. Next time I see our rep , I'll ask him.
Honestly I think there is nothing wrong with the ST/STS or any of the newer Mythos series speakers. If anything I would update the Gem / Gem XL series and add a true bipolar surround speaker to the lineup to perfectly match the ST/STS.
On the other hand using the Mythos 9 or 10 as a surround and center channel is a perfect match and with the huge dispersion of those speakers , bipolar is really not necessary in most cases.

I also don't think the new BP series speakers sound as good or better then the Mythos series. I have compare the 8060 to the STS and felt the STS is a better musical speaker. I do however love the BP series and think for theater they are the fantastic. I'm still not sold on music reproduction on them. They are better then the 7000 series of years ago for music. They made some very nice mid range improvements.

Originally Posted by Spock1234 

I'll hold on to my Mythos STS for now and upgrade when DefTech puts the new drivers in this model.

And, I agree with assessment of the STS versus the 8060. I too liked the sound of the STS better. Could just be a personal preference ... I am sure the 8060 is a very good speaker too.

I decided to go with a Mythos 9 for a center to match the STS. I'll post my feedback after trying it out for a week or so.

Originally Posted by holyindian 

Quick question guys.. do you consider the ST as brighter sounding speakers.?? Asking this, cos i am almost very close to finalizing a new Sunfire TGA 7401 for an extremely good deal. And the Sunfire amp is considered to be sounding warmer. And the thumbrule according to a lot of people are a brighter sounding speaker suits well with a warmer sounding amp. So what will you consider ST, CS-8080, GemXL and promonitors 1000 sounding like? If not i will have to look at other amp options...

Originally Posted by Mantis10 

I have listened to the BP8080ST and BP8060ST many times. I have done some very nice theaters with both speakers and I can tell you first hand the 8080 is a clear winner over the 8060. Like the ST over the STS , the 8080 has a cleaner mid range , smoother bass and an overall more balanced sound. The 8060 is a great alternative if saving a few bucks in necessary. You get about 85-90% of the 8080 sound.

Comparing the BP series to the Mythos series , heres my honest feelings on this matter. The BP series is a huge upgrade to the 7000 series of yesteryear. I find them to be much more balanced and warmer. The Mythos series stands apart from everything Definitve Technology. They don't sound like anything else in the line except they do have some of that signature sound.
For Music I find the Mythos series a clear winner with much better dead space between notes. Less noisy if you will. Clear and true is what I get when listening to them. The BP series I feel falls short here as you don't get that clarity.Don't get me wrong , they are amazingly clear but not compared directly side by side with the Mythos ST or STS.
Now Theater is another story , the BP series has a slight edge here as the subwoofer section just clearly outperforms the Mythos for volume , impact but not speed. The BP series can flat out get scary. I don't see any reason to ever run a external sub even in the biggest rooms. Powerful and earth shaking bass but still tight and very clean. The Mythos also has a very nice hard hitting bass response but doesn't have the largest room filling impact like the BP's do. The Bipolar effect of the BP's is also a very nice pleasant way of reproducing theater. They have an ability to put out a 3D world in your room. The Mythos have a very well extremely wide dispersion which really works well for theater. They are a truly double duty speaker. I would however add a external sub in larger rooms. Not that the Subs don't get it done I just feel they don't have the last word like the BP's do.

So I feel if one is shopping for speakers in a powered tower design and wants a music first theater 2nd , the Mythos would be the way to go. I'd say anyone who is up to 50 / 50 music theater use the Mythos is the key. Now if one is in favor of theater over music but still does concerts disc's etc then I would steer them into the BP's.

Remember this is my personal opinion and not fact. I have been around the BP and Mythos series for many years Installing them in so many different rooms and formed my opinion doing so. I honestly think either series would be wonderful for any person who wants a double duty speaker system. I feel there are not many speaker systems out there that can excel at both duties like the DEF TECH's can.

I own a full Mythos system and have for a few years now. I have been very happy with them and I'm a guy who buys new speakers every couple years. They have stayed here because every time I consider replacing them , I find more reasons to keep them.

Originally Posted by Maddmaster 

That is a great way to describe both series. When I went to listen to the new BP series my main interest was music. I too felt something was missing so stayed with the Mythos. Fortunately my listening area is small so even in theater mode my STS do fine. I will eventually upgrade them to the ST Tower which I should have done from the beginning.

Originally Posted by jmwebuser 

Hello all!
Could use some guidance. Currently running a 5.3 channel system (Boston Acoustics T-1030 mains, Boston Acoustics VR-10 center and Mythos Eights for surrounds. LOVE LOVE LOVE the Mythos Eights for surrounds. Two Mirage BPSS-210 subs are stereo for music, and a Def Tech Supercube 2 dedicated to movies plus the second LFE output from the preamp running to the Mirages (the Supercube 2 made a HUGE difference once I summed it with the Mirages for movies only. My ginormous room for movies has NO lack of low-end now!).

Here is where I could use the guidance. Thinking about replacing the VR-10 with a Mythos Eight for the center channel. Currently the VR-10 is in a cabinet just below the 60" Plasma TV (TV sits on top of cabinet, NOT wall mounted) and it sounds pretty good (although at times dialogue can be difficult to make out). If I buy the Mythos Eight for a center channel, I would have to move the center channel to wall mounted ABOVE the TV because it will not fit in the cabinet where the VR-10 currently resides. Incidentally (but importantly), the TV sits about 14" in front of the wall to allow the TV stand to fit on top of the cabinet and to allow clearance for the wires et al in back of the cabinet. Also, there is not any OEM bracket that would allow me to "aim" the Mythos Eight toward the listening position if it is mounted on-wall above the TV. Given these constraints, I am not sure if I will notice a marked improvement in the center channel sound, which is what I am hoping to achieve. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I know much of this is subjective but would appreciate anyone's thoughts who cares to share them. Might pull down one of the Eights and place it on the top of the cabinet right in front of the TV just to see how the sound compares - but this would only approximate what I will end up with due to the above TV positioning most likely required. ALso any recommendations for "aiming" the Eights if mounted above the TV would be appreciated. (see photo for TV and cabinet arrangement).

Thank you!

Here are the specs on the Boston Acoustics VR-10: 15-150 watts in 8ohms power handling, 5.25" bass driver, 3.5" midrange, 1" VR Tweeter, 5.25" Passive Radiator, 90dB sensitivity, 65hz - 20,000hz frequency responce (+/-3dB)



-Jim

Originally Posted by jjcook 

Jim, the Mythos Nine is compatible with the promount aimable mounts. I emailed DefTech asking about a center for my M8 L/R's and they recommended the 9 over the 8 -- but I haven't pulled the trigger yet so YMMV.

FYI the M8 is on sale at Newegg (authorized reseller)

Originally Posted by jmwebuser 

Hello all!
Could use some guidance. Currently running a 5.3 channel system (Boston Acoustics T-1030 mains, Boston Acoustics VR-10 center and Mythos Eights for surrounds. LOVE LOVE LOVE the Mythos Eights for surrounds. Two Mirage BPSS-210 subs are stereo for music, and a Def Tech Supercube 2 dedicated to movies plus the second LFE output from the preamp running to the Mirages (the Supercube 2 made a HUGE difference once I summed it with the Mirages for movies only. My ginormous room for movies has NO lack of low-end now!).

Here is where I could use the guidance. Thinking about replacing the VR-10 with a Mythos Eight for the center channel. Currently the VR-10 is in a cabinet just below the 60" Plasma TV (TV sits on top of cabinet, NOT wall mounted) and it sounds pretty good (although at times dialogue can be difficult to make out). If I buy the Mythos Eight for a center channel, I would have to move the center channel to wall mounted ABOVE the TV because it will not fit in the cabinet where the VR-10 currently resides. Incidentally (but importantly), the TV sits about 14" in front of the wall to allow the TV stand to fit on top of the cabinet and to allow clearance for the wires et al in back of the cabinet. Also, there is not any OEM bracket that would allow me to "aim" the Mythos Eight toward the listening position if it is mounted on-wall above the TV. Given these constraints, I am not sure if I will notice a marked improvement in the center channel sound, which is what I am hoping to achieve. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I know much of this is subjective but would appreciate anyone's thoughts who cares to share them. Might pull down one of the Eights and place it on the top of the cabinet right in front of the TV just to see how the sound compares - but this would only approximate what I will end up with due to the above TV positioning most likely required. ALso any recommendations for "aiming" the Eights if mounted above the TV would be appreciated. (see photo for TV and cabinet arrangement).

Thank you!

Here are the specs on the Boston Acoustics VR-10: 15-150 watts in 8ohms power handling, 5.25" bass driver, 3.5" midrange, 1" VR Tweeter, 5.25" Passive Radiator, 90dB sensitivity, 65hz - 20,000hz frequency responce (+/-3dB)



-Jim

Originally Posted by jjcook 

Jim, the Mythos Nine is compatible with the promount aimable mounts. I emailed DefTech asking about a center for my M8 L/R's and they recommended the 9 over the 8 -- but I haven't pulled the trigger yet so YMMV.

FYI the M8 is on sale at Newegg (authorized reseller)

Originally Posted by Maddmaster 


I was going to recommend the the HD8060 center but it will not fit in your cabinet. I went from a Mythos 3 center to an 8 and eventually to the 10. Now I use the 8 and 10 together for the center and still not quite satisfied. Everyone here raves about the HD8080 center. I don't believe the HD8060 is far off the HD8080.

By the way looking at your setup if you haven't already experimented with them I would adjust the position of the front speakers toed out a slight bit more.

Originally Posted by Tahoe Cindy 

Thanks for the reply! Originally I was also thinking ceiling speakers, but the pitch is 4/12 and even with angled speakers, I think the sound would be 'off' .... That being said, acoustics is not something I'm very familiar with - which is why I'm here and asking you nice folks

Cheers!

Originally Posted by jjcook 

Jim, the Mythos Nine is compatible with the promount aimable mounts.

Originally Posted by Spock1234 

Which ProMount models are compatible with the Mythos 9?

My Mythos 9 (center channel) will be mounted below my TV, which would place it below ear level. I need to tilt it up to aim the tweeter towards the listener's ears.

Which Pro-Mount would you recommend for this application?

Originally Posted by jjcook 

According to the specs page for the 9, the ProMount 90.

Originally Posted by drscottdo 

Hey guys,

I am in the market for a new center, left and right, and am looking at the Mythos 7 for my center (need something less than 4.5" in height as I will be placing in front of my plasma on a stand), and the Promonitor 800's for the Left and Right. Thoughts on this setup? I would go with the promonitor 1000 center, but's its height is a bit to much for my setup.

Actually newegg has the mythos 8 on sale (looks like def tech doesn't manufacture this one any more), which looks like a better speaker and is just a third of an inch taller. So mythos 8 and promonitor 800's. Thoughts?

Scott

Originally Posted by Spock1234 

Thanks for pointing me to the ProMount 90.

Has anybody had luck with cheaper generic mounts or are you all sticking with DefTech mounts?

Originally Posted by holyindian 

I have a promount 90 they are mounting the Gem xl's on the wall, the build on these mounts are second to none, really superior quality mounts. I got it for 45 bucks or something from Worst Buy. The main advantage is, the screws on this mount that holds the rotating ball will fit all the deftech monitors. plus the finish matches the speakers as well. Saving 10-15 dollars by getting a generic mount will be total disaster if the speakers fall of the wall, which has happened to a lot of members on the forum i read in the past.