AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread - Page 18

post #511 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

Thanks for the input. Once I get the Denon I will probably focus on getting another set of ten's. I have no idea what the wife will think of hanging a couple of speakers on the wall. She could hold back on floors or who knows

My room is not setup to allow me to put some 8's in the rear or having the gems for side surrounds. Well not at least with my current basement confirguration. If we finish off the other half then maybe I will have more options.

But excited of what is coming and what I will get eventually.

DT makes excellent in ceiling speakers, I would explore that option.
post #512 of 5221
Finally installed my setup:
Mythos 2(rt/lt)
Mythos 3(center)
Mythos GEM XL's(surround)
SC 1(sub)

Attachment 140605

Attachment 140606

Attachment 140607
LL
LL
LL
post #513 of 5221
Last weekend I picked up a pair of Ones, a 10 for the center and some gem xls for the rear. How much distance can the center be from the TV? I'm out of town this week and have not set them up yet so no pictures yet.
post #514 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ramador View Post

Finally installed my setup:
Mythos 2(rt/lt)
Mythos 3(center)
Mythos GEM XL's(surround)
SC 1(sub)

Very nice! I like the way you have the finished outlets. Thanks for posting pics!
post #515 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHuntMD View Post

Last weekend I picked up a pair of Ones, a 10 for the center and some gem xls for the rear. How much distance can the center be from the TV? I'm out of town this week and have not set them up yet so no pictures yet.

Congratulations on your system!

I don't believe there are any specific measurement guidelines on how close the center has to be to the television, but if you get too far away, the sound becomes disconnected from the images that are "making" that sound.

Therefore, ideally, you'd want the center to be at or very near the level/location of the monitor--in most cases, directly above or below the television. (If you are using a projector, many folks feel a sound perforated screen with the center right behind it is optimal.) However, IMHO, as long as you are close and have the center aimed correctly, there is some leeway here.

If it is not possible to mount the center to the level of the television/screen, some AV receivers (e.g., Yamaha) allow you to use front presence speakers to "lift" the center speaker sound to the level of the screen.

Hope this helps!
post #516 of 5221
I don't think I can convince the wife to let the Mytho Ten sit between the actual face of the TV and the stand (the TV is a Samsung 52" LCD)
So the only other place is about 12-16 inches above the top of the TV. I should be able to angle it down to the listening area some.
post #517 of 5221
My old bose center speaker I had directly on top of my TV...when upgrading to LCD TV and Mythos 8 front.... the speaker would not set on the top of the LCD and is about 6" above the tv and it realy feels disconnected. I think after being use to it directly on top on the TV I got use to it...now I am trying to devise a way to get it back on top. So I am a believer that it needs to be as close to the screen as possible. Keeping the wife happy is important....mine really like the small bose sats and I found the Mythos line and started by convincing her we could use the Mythos GEMs for frounts...but when I went in to pick them up....low and behold they had Mythos 1's on sale...can't pass on a sale.
post #518 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHuntMD View Post

I don't think I can convince the wife to let the Mytho Ten sit between the actual face of the TV and the stand (the TV is a Samsung 52" LCD)...

That is the best place, but I don't think it can be done with all TV's without blocking the view. It works perfectly for me, though, with my Three and Pioneer PDP-5080. Mythos centers fit there better than most because of their slim cabinet.
post #519 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHuntMD View Post

I don't think I can convince the wife to let the Mytho Ten sit between the actual face of the TV and the stand (the TV is a Samsung 52" LCD)
So the only other place is about 12-16 inches above the top of the TV. I should be able to angle it down to the listening area some.

The only problem is, the other Mythos speakers I'm familiar with sit flush against the wall when wall mounted and don't tip downwards. Do you have a shelf that you can rest it on?

Is wallmounting the television a possibility? My wife is the one who talked me into wall mounting the television for a more "built in" look. (That allowed me to put the center on the equipment stand beneath the telvision.)

In your case, since your wife doesn't want the speaker on the stand (if I am interpreting your post correctly, maybe you could wall mount everything? (It would look really good).
post #520 of 5221
I have a Mythos Ten for my center. I mounted mine about 1 inch below my Elite kuro. When I mounted it on the wall , I used rubber gromets between the wall and the flush mount that comes with the Mythos Ten. The rubber gromets I used were about 2 inches long on the bottom two holes and about 1.75 inches long on the top two holes. This brought the speaker out from the wall to the same distance as the plasma and had it pointing very slightly upwards. If you wall mounted yours using two different size rubber gromets with a larger difference in length than me, lets say .75 inch on the bottom and 2 inch on the top, it should point it towards your listening position nicely.
post #521 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelman76 View Post

I have a Mythos Ten for my center. I mounted mine about 1 inch below my Elite kuro. When I mounted it on the wall , I used rubber gromets between the wall and the flush mount that comes with the Mythos Ten. The rubber gromets I used were about 2 inches long on the bottom two holes and about 1.75 inches long on the top two holes. This brought the speaker out from the wall to the same distance as the plasma and had it pointing very slightly upwards. If you wall mounted yours using two different size rubber gromets with a larger difference in length than me, lets say .75 inch on the bottom and 2 inch on the top, it should point it towards your listening position nicely.

Is this a preferred method? I have my 10 in route and plan on putting my center below my panni on my stereo cabinet which sits about 3-4 inches from the wall.
But when money allows, I hope to get two more for the fronts if I don't get floor standing. When I wall mount them, would I need to do this or this is just for the center, or again, is this method a preferred one for wall mounting?
post #522 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

Is this a preferred method? I have my 10 in route and plan on putting my center below my panni on my stereo cabinet which sits about 3-4 inches from the wall.

I have my center channel Ten attached to my articulating wall mount. It is an accessory for the Sanus Mount that brings it flush beneath my Kuro 151. This works great. As I tilt or pan the display the center is always lined up in the sweet spot.
post #523 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

Is this a preferred method? I have my 10 in route and plan on putting my center below my panni on my stereo cabinet which sits about 3-4 inches from the wall.
But when money allows, I hope to get two more for the fronts if I don't get floor standing. When I wall mount them, would I need to do this or this is just for the center, or again, is this method a preferred one for wall mounting?

The 10 will work perfectly fine sitting on your stereo cabinet, as long as the speaker ends up just below the television. (It just needs to be close enough so it sounds like the sound is coming from the television.) You will also want to place your 10 close to the edge of the shelf it sits on, to avoid unwanted reflections off the shelf.

They Mythos centers come with an adjustable foot you can install that allows you to adjust tilt so you can point the speaker right at the level of your ears.

I think the rubber grommet idea is brilliant, but it is not required for wall mounting your speakers. For example, if your center ends up being close to your ear height when wall mounted, there is no need to tilt. It all depends on how you wish to set up your television. The speaker positions flow from that.
post #524 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

I have my center channel Ten attached to my articulating wall mount. It is an accessory for the Sanus Mount that brings it flush beneath my Kuro 151. This works great. As I tilt or pan the display the center is always lined up in the sweet spot.

Larry--that's a cool accessory--I have that same Sanus mount, but didn't know about that center speaker bracket. Does it hold the 10 pretty securely?

(Now it makes me want to see pics even more -- sorry, couldn't resist!)
post #525 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Larry--that's a cool accessory--I have that same Sanus mount, but didn't know about that center speaker bracket. Does it hold the 10 pretty securely?

(Now it makes me want to see pics even more -- sorry, couldn't resist!)

It's rock solid as if it were welded together. However, moving the display away from the wall and panning takes a little more effort, especially to be sure not to touch the screen or smudge the bezel.

Pictures.
I have several 35 mm cameras with many lenses etc. but I don't have a digitalyet. I have to pick one up. My cell phone doesn't even have a camera. The only digital camera I have is the one in my Mac Book but I'm not about to try that. Soon I'll get oneI love seeing others photos too. I like the first page of your thread with the links. By the way, where's the link to your pictures?
post #526 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

It's rock solid as if it were welded together. However, moving the display away from the wall and panning takes a little more effort, especially to be sure not to touch the screen or smudge the bezel.

Pictures.
I have several 35 mm cameras with many lenses etc. but I don't have a digitalyet. I have to pick one up. My cell phone doesn't even have a camera. The only digital camera I have is the one in my Mac Book but I'm not about to try that. Soon I'll get oneI love seeing others photos too. I like the first page of your thread with the links. By the way, where's the link to your pictures?

Hey, Larry--thanks for the kind words

Re: pics--I've been getting crushed with the day job that allowed me to become a Mythos owner. Things should settle down in a couple of weeks, and I hope to get some pics up at that time if nothing else pops up.
post #527 of 5221
Just got some Aluminum Mythos Two as place holders for my ST's that I should have by July. I have a 141 now, so I needed something. I'll be selling them soon afterwards, but they sure do sound nice.
post #528 of 5221
Well i deceided to go with the nines L/C/R to go with my gem side surrounds. Ordered the today from an authorized online dealer. Awesome price and free shipping. should be here in a couple days. Thanks to everyone who shares their knowldege here. now just have to wait for the pb13-ultra. I knoticed svs has stoped their free shipping. Crap...that's an extra $100
post #529 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by texasveteran View Post

Just got some Aluminum Mythos Two as place holders for my ST's that I should have by July. I have a 141 now, so I needed something. I'll be selling them soon afterwards, but they sure do sound nice.

I'll keep an eye out for this one :P. I have been looking in the classifieds here, audiogon, etc and never seem to find any Mythos Two up for sale. I'm looking for a pair in black though but we'll see.
post #530 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcamber View Post

I'll keep an eye out for this one :P. I have been looking in the classifieds here, audiogon, etc and never seem to find any Mythos Two up for sale. I'm looking for a pair in black though but we'll see.

I'll keep you mind. We don't live too far from each other.

Can anyone recommend a speaker mount for the Ten? Will the ProMount 90 work?
post #531 of 5221
The new 10 I just installed yesterday has a mount included. While I did'nt mount it to the wall you need to use the mount for the angle adjustment leg.

CH
post #532 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHuntMD View Post

The new 10 I just installed yesterday has a mount included. While I did'nt mount it to the wall you need to use the mount for the angle adjustment leg.

CH

The problem is I use banana plugs, so the mount it comes with won't allow for the added depth.
post #533 of 5221
I thought I've seen "Right-Angle" banana plugs pr something similar. Or cut them off and use the old righty-tighty lefty-loosie regular wire method.

CH
post #534 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by texasveteran View Post

The problem is I use banana plugs, so the mount it comes with won't allow for the added depth.

Hey, Texasveteran:

I was able to mount my Mythos 8's with banana plugs.

See pictures here. It was a matter of screwing in the mounts just to the left of the stud, and picking the height of the hole carefully.

Worked pretty well.

Good luck!
post #535 of 5221
Hey Movieman

Just a suggestion..when I was looking at Def Techs..I assumed they would only be sold for msrp since there was a select few dealers. But when I was ready to pull the string I asked the salesman if he could give a deal if I bought the whole setup. He says it never hurts to ask? I just looked at him and smiled...ended up getting them for about 30% off. hmmm that might get you close to a decent id sub.

Quote:
Originally Posted by movieman_78 View Post

Hi Guys,

Thank you very much for your opinions. I went back to listen to the Klipsch's yesterday and then the Mythos today and for some reason it was a lot more evident the difference in quality between the two (as compared to my feelings last week). I'm starting to feel that the Mythos are night and day better sounding to my ears then the Klipsch and they are certainly worth the extra money. Just fantastic sounding.

I had them demo my ideal setup with an REL sub (which is out of my price range for the time being but like you guys suggested, at least I know what a real sub sounds like) and overall it was quite nice.

So I'm thinking of going with the Mythos Twos for L/R, Three for Center, and the Gems for the rears. Since I'm spending a little more than I had wanted, I'm just gonna stick with my current sub for now until I can rationalize spending another chunk of money on a good sub.

Anyway, thank you to all for your help.
post #536 of 5221
Just got my Gems and my Mythos 10 center is in route.

What are the best connectors folks are using? Banana, 90 degree connectors? What else is out there?
post #537 of 5221
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnbum88 View Post

Just got my Gems and my Mythos 10 center is in route.

What are the best connectors folks are using? Banana, 90 degree connectors? What else is out there?

Some people feel that bare wire gives you the purest connection, but bare wire is subject to oxidation.

Other options are spade lugs (and right angle spades). They also have "O" ring connections, which are pretty cool--easier to get to stay in place than regular spades.

I personally prefer bananas--they just plug in and stay very well, as long as you don't keep removing and reinserting them. Some favor locking bananas.

I ended up using the Blue Jeans Cable bananas.
post #538 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Hey, Texasveteran:

I was able to mount my Mythos 8's with banana plugs.

See pictures here. It was a matter of screwing in the mounts just to the left of the stud, and picking the height of the hole carefully.

Worked pretty well.

Good luck!

Thanks.

That is what I might have to do. And since I'm installing a Ten, then going vertical will be less of an issue. I was just trying to avoid more holes.

I'm glad I have the skills to covers holes, because the apartment management might have a heart attack.
post #539 of 5221
I have a question on the BP7000 series hook up.

My rec. has 7.1 low level outputs and I have seperate amps. Can I take the low level output to the right and left and attach y connects then run one to the amp and one to the sub connector on the BP7000? I'm not much of a fan of geting normal bass and lfe bass out of the high level. I've found the low level input to be much clearer.

I don't see this type of a setup in the manual...thoughts?
post #540 of 5221
Quote:
Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

I have a question on the BP7000 series hook up.

My rec. has 7.1 low level outputs and I have seperate amps. Can I take the low level output to the right and left and attach y connects then run one to the amp and one to the sub connector on the BP7000? I'm not much of a fan of geting normal bass and lfe bass out of the high level. I've found the low level input to be much clearer.

I don't see this type of a setup in the manual...thoughts?

You might want to ask this in the "regular" DefTech owners thread. This one is directed to Mythos owners. I will submit that you have the opposite view of most of the posters there, though, who seem to favor the high level connection.

That said, the setup that you mention probably isn't in the manual because it is so unconventional and I don't think DefTech would recommend it. If you set your BP7000's to Large in the AVR, you'll wind up duplicating your bass signal, resulting in an artificially boosted output (might as well just crank up the amp). If you set them to Small, you'd have to use your LFE output anyway.

Why not just connect a "Y" connector to your LFE output and feed your BP7000's from it? You'd still set the AVR to Large for them and run your high level connections to your BP7000's to achieve a full range output on L/R signals. This is DefTech's recommended approach. Or, if you don't want to use the high level input for any bass, set the AVR to Small for your BP7000's, which will transfer all the bass below your selected crossover point to the LFE output and avoid sending any through the high level connection.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Speakers
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Definitive Technology Mythos Series Thread