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post #331 of 881
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Another update: My surround speakers will be here sometime next week (Seaton Sparks x 4).

Very exciting!
post #332 of 881
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

Another update: My surround speakers will be here sometime next week (Seaton Sparks x 4).

Very exciting!

Hmmmm ... exciting indeed! Especially for the guy who said:

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I don't think that he who "Runs with Scissors" Hanes can make anyone else look bad...


If only I had known earlier that the simple act of ordering speakers could be considered both exciting and progress, I couldda been somebody ... I could been a contenda!

Don't make me resort to the dreaded Hanesometer, johnsteph10!! It could get ugly!
post #333 of 881
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Another update: My surround speakers will be here sometime next week (Seaton Sparks x 4).

Very exciting!

That is exciting! Nice to be able to get a peek at how things will ultimately sound once you are done.
post #334 of 881
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Considering that I ordered them 12/18/08 I am very excited!
post #335 of 881
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

Hmmmm ... exciting indeed! Especially for the guy who said:



If only I had known earlier that the simple act of ordering speakers could be considered both exciting and progress, I couldda been somebody ... I could been a contenda!

Don't make me resort to the dreaded Hanesometer, johnsteph10!! It could get ugly!

I'd like to see this "dreaded" Hanesometer....does it look something like this:




post #336 of 881
I've held off buying any sort of electronic upgrades until my build is finished. But do you think it might actually lift my spirits and motivate me if I bought something more fun than a 2x4 and sheetrock? Hell, after the framing stage the linacoustic seemed downright like a toy!
post #337 of 881
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I've held off buying any sort of electronic upgrades until my build is finished. But do you think it might actually lift my spirits and motivate me if I bought something more fun than a 2x4 and sheetrock? Hell, after the framing stage the linacoustic seemed downright like a toy!

At least for myself, it motivates me to get the theater going....especially when my wife yells at me for all of the stuff laying around.
post #338 of 881
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I'd like to see this "dreaded" Hanesometer....does it look something like this:





No way - the Hanesometer is a state-of-the-art marvel of modern technology, designed to measure HT build progress, or lack thereof, using the simple but effective reference point of how big your pile of building material is relative to what it was originally. You mathemeticians will, of course, recognize this as a highly sophisticated variable regression analysis using the woodpile-rithmic scale, which is the early precursor to the better known but far less useful logarithmic scale.





Patent pending.
post #339 of 881
Ohhhh. I want to push that red button. What's it do?
post #340 of 881
I dunno, that looks a lot like a diy mini synthesizer...

And that red button? It allows Hanes to put the Attack/Release function of the "analysis" into "Manual" mode so he can "fix" the results.
post #341 of 881
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No way.....You mathemeticians will, of course, recognize this as a highly sophisticated........WOODpile-rithmic scale, which is the early precursor to the better known but far less useful LOGarithmic scale.





Patent pending.

This actually makes sense due to the fact you can't get a WOOD pile with out a LOG anyway. So it is only logical you would use that mathematical system to figure theater progress.

Yup perfect sense.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #342 of 881
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Ohhhh. I want to push that red button. What's it do?

That's classified information. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
post #343 of 881
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I bet Hanes had to use all that wood to make his hanesometer...rather than actual progress.
post #344 of 881
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I bet Hanes had to use all that wood to make his hanesometer...rather than actual progress.

+1

But, I would wager that he outsourced the job! So even the design of the Hanesometer can't really even be counted as progress. I would suggest he just sticks with taking and posting pictures of lumber piles and old sofas!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #345 of 881
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Progress Update:

Ok, well, I haven't made much progress due to the ridiculous hours I'm having to work...but I finally broke down and ordered my rack.

Slim 5 Rack with a couple of custom shelves, castors, etc.

I can't believe how expensive the accessories are -- the rack itself is rather reasonable...but you hit $1k FAST.
post #346 of 881
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Progress Update:

Ok, well, I haven't made much progress due to the ridiculous hours I'm having to work...but I finally broke down and ordered my rack.

Slim 5 Rack with a couple of custom shelves, castors, etc.

I can't believe how expensive the accessories are -- the rack itself is rather reasonable...but you hit $1k FAST.

Yeah. It sure ain't cheap. I lost track of exactly how much I have spent on the rack. I really don't want to know at this point.
post #347 of 881
I thought the pretty, pretty red button was the history eraser.

OK, who knows THAT reference?
post #348 of 881
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I thought the pretty, pretty red button was the history eraser.

OK, who knows THAT reference?

Ren & Stimpy for the win!
post #349 of 881
Hurry up and get your HT operational so I can come down (I live in a north Atlanta suburb) and hear what the Catalysts and Sparks Sound like. If they are as good as the SubMersives I already have, it should be AMAZING!!
post #350 of 881
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Just wanted to post this as Michael (Cathan) posted it in another thread and I've been looking around for it.

So, now I know where it is. Thanks, Cathan.

post #351 of 881
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I'll get some more updated pics tonight of the riser. Almost finished!
post #352 of 881
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

Just wanted to post this as Michael (Cathan) posted it in another thread and I've been looking around for it.

So, now I know where it is. Thanks, Cathan.


LOL- take a look at the first post in my thread. I have a few more things there too.

CJ

PS- get those pics up!
post #353 of 881
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LOL- take a look at the first post in my thread. I have a few more things there too.

CJ

PS- get those pics up!

CJ is correct! I have just started reading his thread (haven't harassed him yet) and noticed his thread has a plethora of information in the first few posts. If you haven't visited yet it is well worth a look for sure.

Looking forward to seeing the pics of the riser. This will be my next up construction project once the kids area is up and running.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #354 of 881
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LOL- take a look at the first post in my thread. I have a few more things there too.

CJ

PS- get those pics up!


Holy crap, CJ. I hadn't gone back to the beginning of your thread in a long time. Makes me want to redo my first post.
post #355 of 881
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...I ran out of insulation last night. I need 1 more roll to finish the riser.

Hopefully, I'll get that done today and start putting the OSB on top.

My "honey-do" list is very long right now...
post #356 of 881
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...I ran out of insulation last night. I need 1 more roll to finish the riser.

Hopefully, I'll get that done today and start putting the OSB on top.

My "honey-do" list is very long right now...


It takes a lot of insulation to fill a riser. I had 2/3 of a roll of R30 and bought another to finish it up. I also bought 3 more rolls to use in the soffits. I'm glad I did. I ended up using all 4-2/3 rolls just in the riser!

CJ
post #357 of 881
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XLR Connections


A little off-topic, but I've gotten a couple of PMs asking about what the heck XLR cables are. The information is spread around the net but isn't too organized. The wikipedia article is located here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector

Basically, XLR cables are most often used in the pro-audio world for long distance (>25 foot cable runs) because they minimize interference. They are often used for microphone cabling, speaker cabling, and equipment interconnects. The cables also tend to be very flexible allowing a tight turn radius vs. large gauge speaker wire which may be a bit stiffer.

A pic (female connector on the left and male connector on the right):



There are 3 pins in the XLR: a ground, a positive (or "hot") and the negative (or "return" or "cold"). Typically, they "lock" into position and allow a little more abuse than your standard copper speaker wire connector options (of which there are several).

There are 2 types of connectors: female and male. Just like everything else labels as such, male connectors have the pins and female connectors have the holes (now that certainly sounds dirty!).

Here's an example of male connectors:



At the bottom right, you'll see several of the 3 pin XLR connectors.

XLR connections and cables allow for balanced audio. Balanced audio is a method of interconnecting audio equipment using impedance-balanced lines (XLR). This type of connection is very important in sound recording and production because it allows for the use of long cables while reducing susceptibility to external noise. A further bonus is that it also eliminates the "ground loop hum" that plagues us...especially with subwoofers.

In our applications, it simply means that will get the lowest signal noise floor (ie: "cleanest") signal that we can when running over long runs....or if we are simply crazy and like to have things way over-engineered.

Hope this helps clear it up for a few people.
post #358 of 881
I'm familiar with XLR, having worked in TV production in the past. However, I've never seen it used for home audio. Do your speakers have XLR connectors?

Edited to add: Looking great so far, BTW. I just read these threads to fantasize about what I'll do some day when I have a house that has room for a theater, but I actually enjoy the early stages at least as much as the later stuff.
post #359 of 881
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

Hurry up and get your HT operational so I can come down (I live in a north Atlanta suburb) and hear what the Catalysts and Sparks Sound like. If they are as good as the SubMersives I already have, it should be AMAZING!!

Yes we must see this HT in operation!!
post #360 of 881
Dear John;

A couple of audio points, related to some of your recent posts.

1) Seat placement to minimize room resonances at the ear location is far more important than the THX and SEMPTE recommendations quoted in the graph above. CJ quotes ~38% of the distance from the rear and front walls are the best distances. This is approximately correct. The correct distance is a funtion of your room's dimensions. Plotting the fundamental resonance plus the second through about the 3rd or 4th harmonic, for each dimension of your room, on a graph will show where you ought to locate the seating in your room to provide the best audio experience.

2) Balanced cables work in the following way. One pin carries the signal (S) plus noise (n) = S + n. A second pin carries the negative of the signal (-S) plus noise (n) = -S + n. Subtracting one from the other gives you:

S + n - (-S + n) = S - (-S) + n - n = 2S. No noise.

The third pin carries the ground reference.

With intentions of helping............

William
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