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post #61 of 883
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

Does anyone else hear an echo in here?


It will get better when you get some sound treatment up...

Edit: Oh, look there. Kicked you over to a third page.
post #62 of 883
Thread Starter 
RPh Drew, about time you posted here, again. You did harrass me to post up a diagram (though crude)!!
post #63 of 883
Ok, now that we have a FLOOR PLAN to work off...

How is your screen wall/equipment closet going to work???

Stair landing on the left, screen in the middle, ... door to equipment closet on right??? Will any of the equipment be visible and if so do you think it will distract from the screen?

Hidden door? What's the plan?

Edit... look there I was typing before you even posted.... but you beat me by 3 mintues.
post #64 of 883
Any new updates?
post #65 of 883
knock, knock, knock... (knocking on microphone)... Is this thing on???
post #66 of 883
Looking good so far John.
I'm subscribed.
post #67 of 883
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RPh Drew View Post

knock, knock, knock... (knocking on microphone)... Is this thing on???

I got a new dog...errr...

I got a new car...errr...


I'll get some updates going shortly. I'm actually off until Monday and I'm going to get some stuff done (I hope).

My speakers are being shipped out at the end of the week....and they'll have no place to go!!
post #68 of 883
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Just got back from Lowe's!

Man...4x8 sheets of plywood are BIG and HEAVY...especially annoying when it is windy.

Anyone want to help me bring it inside?

Plenty of beer for everyone!!
post #69 of 883
MDF is even worse. Get one of those drywall carry doohickies. That makes it soloable except for going down stairs.
post #70 of 883
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cathan View Post

MDF is even worse. Get one of those drywall carry doohickies. That makes it soloable except for going down stairs.

Do you mean a wife? ...because she already refused.
post #71 of 883
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

Do you mean a wife? ...because she already refused.

???

MDF = Medium density Fiber board. ie it is heavier that drywall

drywall carry doohickies = One of those plastic things you carry a sheet of drywall with.

Do you call your wife a "doohickie"?
post #72 of 883
So John, any more pics? What r u working on next?
post #73 of 883
Thread Starter 
Ok, I'm back from the land of the dead ( = having been Loganed, it means your progress is automatically slowed to a crawl).

I previously had put in 3 inch conduit running along the joists. I would have thought it would have been a piece of cake to snake a couple of cables through 3 inches...but nooooooooooooooooooooo.

My friend came over and we ran all of my cables yesterday. Grand totals:

1 hdmi/2 cat 6 ( for TV #1)
2 hdmi/1 component/1 vga/2 cat 6 (for projector)
1 hdmi/2 cat 6 ( for TV #2)
2 xlr pro speaker cables for rear surrounds
2 xlr pro speaker cables for side surrounds
pelv for graphic eye in case I want it
Speaker wire for the 4 butt kickers for front row
Installed about 1/2 of the LV orange carlon boxes

Bought more insulation.
Bought 6 4x8 OSB sheets to finish soffits.
Need to run power to 2nd possible TV position.
Need to finish a few small electrical thingies.
Need to wire up the 3 lights for behind the AT screen wall.
etc...

THEN I GET TO DRYWALL!!

I'll snap and upload some pics in a bit..including the screen wall.
post #74 of 883
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RPh Drew View Post

knock, knock, knock... (knocking on microphone)... Is this thing on???

Don't make me send Staffy over to your thread....
post #75 of 883
Thread Starter 
BTW, I've somewhat committed a cardinal sin.

I set up the projector
taped up a white bedsheet
hooked up my Xbox 360
an HD DVD player I wasn't using
an old Denon receiver
and a pair of bookshelf speakers.
and lugged 2 of my HT recliners

...up to 1 of our upstairs bonus rooms....NOT in the unfinished HT. So it is not a mortal sin..just kind of a cardinal sin.

While it is awesome to game on a big screen (even if it is a sheet), it really makes me want to finish the HT. I'll take some pics of it as well in all of its glory.
post #76 of 883
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

Ok, I'm back from the land of the dead ( = having been Loganed, it means your progress is automatically slowed to a crawl).

I previously had put in 3 inch conduit running along the joists. I would have thought it would have been a piece of cake to snake a couple of cables through 3 inches...but nooooooooooooooooooooo.

My friend came over and we ran all of my cables yesterday. Grand totals:

1 hdmi/2 cat 6 ( for TV #1)
2 hdmi/1 component/1 vga/2 cat 6 (for projector)
1 hdmi/2 cat 6 ( for TV #2)
2 xlr pro speaker cables for rear surrounds
2 xlr pro speaker cables for side surrounds
pelv for graphic eye in case I want it
Speaker wire for the 4 butt kickers for front row
Installed about 1/2 of the LV orange carlon boxes

Bought more insulation.
Bought 6 4x8 OSB sheets to finish soffits.
Need to run power to 2nd possible TV position.
Need to finish a few small electrical thingies.
Need to wire up the 3 lights for behind the AT screen wall.
etc...

THEN I GET TO DRYWALL!!

I'll snap and upload some pics in a bit..including the screen wall.

John.

4 Butt kickers in the first row? Are these mounted in a platform or to the seating? I have 2 under a 3 person sofa with a single BK amp driving the 2 BK's and I hardly have them turned up and they shake the heck out of my sofa.
post #77 of 883
Thread Starter 
Happy -

They're individually mounted on the 4 recliners....when I first tested them...they would shake the crap out anyone sitting on them (and boy..that was a mess.. ).

They'll be just barely turned on, I think.
post #78 of 883
So 2 amps or 1 for the 4 BKAs? Don't get me wrong, I really like mine. My daughter and her friends watch movies and scream everytime they go off. They love it. That's with 4 teenage girls, on a couch with recliners on either end. After lots of emails with the engineers at Guitammer company I used the mounting kits and I placed mine under the frame legs in the middle at the back. I used isolators on all the other touch points. Even on carpet the isolators really help. I have my amps set at about 10 O'clock.

I still would like to tweak them more with my subs when I get some time. I'd also wish I could find a cross-over I could apply to them that would have them kick it at 20 or 25 hz vs. the min of 30 right now on the amp I think it would blend better.
post #79 of 883
Thread Starter 
That's one of the complaints I've heard with them, as well.

I'm just going to use 1 amp for the 4 BK's...hopefully shouldn't be too taxing on it.

I also got some isolators.

I think that you would have more than enough trouble...err...treble with 4 screaming teenage girls in your HT.
post #80 of 883
As long as it is JUST 4 screaming girls and not girls and boys screaming I'm cool.... Protective Dad here. I keep telling my kids that I hid a camera (with night vision) in the theater and I'm not telling them where it is...

I too was going to go with 1 amp for the 4 BK's (I have 2 rows). But I was concerned they would not have enough punch because you wire in parallel for 2 and then serial for the last 2 (or maybe the other way around) either way, what they told me was the power did not double after 2 BK's and heat increased so I'd have to drive the amp a lot harder. My rack is all wood and tight so I worried about the heat issue. So I bought two amps but frankly, even with the amps stacked on each other (with spacers) they stay as cool as the W4S. Never got around to trying all 4 on one amps. Just some data. Throw it away or use it....

Oh, I must be slow tonight, I just got the shake the crap joke... Very good... God I'm slow.... Need to get a life... lol
post #81 of 883
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

I'll do some thread up-dating today since I've seem to have fallen into the pit of ignored builds...

Here's a teaser........




John;
Nice build thread and making progress, what's up with these puppies since you teased us a while back??
(and I gotta stop surfing avsforum at 2am while letting the dog out for his early am duty, time goes by quickly)
post #82 of 883
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

John;
Nice build thread and making progress, what's up with these puppies since you teased us a while back??
(and I gotta stop surfing avsforum at 2am while letting the dog out for his early am duty, time goes by quickly)

We had some delays through the paint process, but John's Catalysts are being assembled this week.

As a useless bit of trivia, a single Catalyst requires 42 screws through the full assembly process!
post #83 of 883
Thread Starter 
Nice to see you posting in the thread, here, Mark.
post #84 of 883
Thread Starter 
Just an update: I tidied up a lot of pics, added descriptions, and made the thread flow a little better.

About to upload some more progress pics...
post #85 of 883
Thread Starter 
3/25/2009 - 3/29/2009:

Soffits!!!

A generalized pic of the basement in progress. Note the roll of insulation!




Showing the completed soffits in the HT proper -- the L/C/R are all stuffed loosely with R30 insulation to act as bass absorber/sound deadening since they contain flex duct/plumbing.






4 inch Halo lighting installed in the L/R soffits (connected to Graphic Eye). I got a little frisky with the saw...but it isn't anything some acoustical caulk and sheetrock can't make disappear!!






Another soffit picture which will be located close to the riser/seating area:




This is a pic showing the finished soffit above where the wet bar will be. It also contains flex duct.
It had a lot of complex angles to cut and was probably one of the most frustrating carpentry projects to date!






Closeup of the vent ducting I installed so I could have a range/oven hood...or even better, to vent off popcorn fumes!
post #86 of 883
Thread Starter 
3/28/2009 - 2/29/2009:

Cables!!!

Everything is running through Carlon orange LV boxes clipped-on to adjustable Carlons.


I wanted to have 2 TVs in other parts of the HT/Basement. This an HDMI/2 Cat6 run to the rear wall of the theater:




This HDMI/2cat6 run will be to a TV mounted above the bar:




Cable run to my projector location (an RS20).
I ran:
2 HDMI
1 VGA
2 Cat6
Component/Stereo.
Also Note the 2 Rear Surround Speaker Cable runs (XLR) and power in the background.




Right Side Surround (XLR) and Power:




Left Side Surround (XLR) and Power:
post #87 of 883
Thread Starter 
...and now for some interesting stuff!

Screen Wall:






I am totally pathetic at trying to photoshop/paint/edit pics so here is my rough attempt!
You can see the future positions for:
Left Speaker
Sub 1
Center Speaker
Sub 2
Right Speaker

These will be located behind a screen wall (AT Screen). I will likely use SMX but I haven't gotten that far yet.

Everything will also be built on a 10-12 inch tall stage.

The center wire (14/2 romex) you see hanging down will be for behind screen lighting to wash down on the screen/speakers. I've always liked the look and Ruben in his build thread make it look fantastic!

I'll have plenty of room behind the AT Screen/Speakers since the room under the stairs is spacious.

I don't know if I'll do a rack or just have everything contained in that room. Equipment racks sure do look nice, though.
post #88 of 883
Thread Starter 
Thanks to John at The Soundproofing Company for his help.

3 pails of GG/speedloader/acoustic caulk is on its way!
post #89 of 883
Another one of those really clean workers. Sick.

Room is really shaping up John!

CD
post #90 of 883
theatre looks good! lots of progress.


one thing i noticed WAY WAY back, and luckily you haven't drywalled yet... did you forget to vent your bar/sink drain? should be vented within 5' of the P-trap.
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