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Food Network HD warped image? Yes.

post #1 of 28
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Hey guys, I was curious if anyone else had this going on:

On panning shots, the image looks as if its going over a warped/waved surface. The image distorts and kind of bulges in and out. Its only on panning shots and it is really annoying.

If it was only me it would be annoying, but my brother who is 50 miles away and with a different cable company has the same thing.

I was wondering if anyone else has this. Its not really on the commercials but on the shows. Check it out, if you have it and know what it could be from that would be great. I have a feeling being that both cable companies are having the same thing, that its the stations fault in the way they are broadcasting. If thats the case who do I contact? Its really annoying. Makes me feel sick sometimes.

Thanks folks!
post #2 of 28
They use a non-linear stretching technique on their HD feed stretching any 4:3 content. It's referred to as stretch-o-vision. They do it on the commercials as well.
post #3 of 28
It is a non-linear stretch on their non-HD material that you are seeing. It is coming from the network that way.
post #4 of 28
This is Food Networks way of acting like it knows something about HD. Just like TNT, both are idiots.
post #5 of 28
The sad thing is, Food Network used to run a separate HD feed that was close to reference quality.
post #6 of 28
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

This is Food Networks way of acting like it knows something about HD.

No - it's the Food Network's way of acting like the viewers don't know anything about HD.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

No - it's the Food Network's way of acting like the viewers don't know anything about HD.

Good point, and the unfortunate thing about it is that they're probably correct, and more to the point, very much on-target.
post #8 of 28
To be fair - if you check the program guide - the show in question wont actually be listed as HD (at least my guide tends to be accurate on Time Warner) - unlike TNT/TBS which will list everything as HD. (HGTV is in the same boat as Food Network - as they are both owned by the same company)
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by Berk32 View Post

To be fair - if you check the program guide - the show in question wont actually be listed as HD (at least my guide tends to be accurate on Time Warner) - unlike TNT/TBS which will list everything as HD. (HGTV is in the same boat as Food Network - as they are both owned by the same company)

On FiOS anything on an HD channel is listed as an HD program.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by owine View Post

They use a non-linear stretching technique on their HD feed stretching any 4:3 content. It's referred to as stretch-o-vision. They do it on the commercials as well.

Do you mean to say that Rachel Ray's arms don't really look like Popeye's? Or Giada D's head is really not that huge?
post #11 of 28
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Do you mean to say that Rachel Ray's arms don't really look like Popeye's? Or Giada D's head is really not that huge?

Why are you looking at Giada's head?
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by SQUIDWARD360 View Post

On FiOS anything on an HD channel is listed as an HD program.

Yeah, what's with that?
post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post

Why are you looking at Giada's head?

I choose not to answer that question on the grounds that it might incriminate me.
post #14 of 28
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Why are you looking at Giada's head?

It's rude not to stare at the eyes .
post #15 of 28
to be fair though Food Networks newer shows are in HD and some of them look great, Barefoot Contessa, Tyler Florence shows looks outstanding and even the newer Everyday Italian looks really good. Even that nut Sandra Lee's show looks great. Yes my wife is a HUGE Food Network fan and I'm not allowed to watch Everyday Italian. LOL

But when they show reruns of their older shows it's either stretched or panaromic.
My Comcast will list it as HD or not.
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies guys. I knew someone on here knew, thanks for the info. So if the show was not shot in full widescreen HD they stretch the regular 4:3 shot? I dont understand why they would do this, and do it so poorly. Why cant they just leave it alone, I think my tv does a better job at stretching the picture.

I also didnt think that a food network question would turn down pervert alley
post #17 of 28
Because too many HD viewers are clueless and complain about black letterbox bars on content that is wider than 16:9 and complain about pillar bars on content that is 4:3.

By stretching 4:3 content to 16:9, they make sure a viewer's screen is always "full."

Sad, but true.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

to be fair though Food Networks newer shows are in HD and some of them look great, Barefoot Contessa, Tyler Florence shows looks outstanding and even the newer Everyday Italian looks really good. Even that nut Sandra Lee's show looks great. Yes my wife is a HUGE Food Network fan and I'm not allowed to watch Everyday Italian. LOL

But when they show reruns of their older shows it's either stretched or panaromic.
My Comcast will list it as HD or not.

Giada at Home and Everyday Italian look great in HD. EI has been in HD since 2005. Paula's show has been HD as well. FN has been producing shows in HD for a few years now and it's nice. Our provider must be rateshaping them since the macroblocking is noticeable.
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by Lice View Post

Thanks for the replies guys. I knew someone on here knew, thanks for the info. So if the show was not shot in full widescreen HD they stretch the regular 4:3 shot? I dont understand why they would do this, and do it so poorly. Why cant they just leave it alone, I think my tv does a better job at stretching the picture.

That question has been asked here many many times. The short answer is we don't know, and it appears Food Network doesn't care. Even if they got rid of the non-linear stretch then some people can unstretch the picture.
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I also didnt think that a food network question would turn down pervert alley

You will learn that all Food Network topics turn into conversations about Giada's and/or Sandra's boobs. There is really nothing that can be done about it, it's almost a rule.
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

That question has been asked here many many times. The short answer is we don't know, and it appears Food Network doesn't care. Even if they got rid of the non-linear stretch then some people can unstretch the picture.

Sorry I searched before i posted and nothing came up besides "which hosts breasts make you smile more" so I just posted it up.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by Lice View Post

Sorry I searched before i posted and nothing came up besides "which hosts breasts make you smile more" so I just posted it up.

It's not a problem, I was just saying. For newer viewers to see this and wonder shows you just how bad it really is.
post #22 of 28
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I also didnt think that a food network question would turn down pervert alley

It always does, because of Giada, her chest, her big head, and their big heads.
post #23 of 28
I know this is an older thread, but I wanted to post about an annoyance with Food HD and this seemed to be the thread to do it: the series 'Ace of Cakes' is produced either in 16x9 SD or in HD (I really don't know which), but I'm guessing 16x9 SD.

On the standard-def Food Network feed, the show is broadcast letterboxed in the 4x3 window. On Food HD, they take the letterboxed 4x3 image, and then stretch it. This produces the result of leaving letterbox bars at the top of a 16x9 HD set, as well as the Stretch-O-Vision distortion from taking a 4x3 source and expanding it horizontally.

If they had even a fraction of a clue, they would simply show the 16x9 source -- it would have to be upconverted from SD, but it would be 1-to-1 (no stretching), and no extra letterbox bars would be left over. Unfortunately, it is clear that the Food Network isn't interested in doing anything more than the bare minimum.
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by rosenkavalier View Post

If they had even a fraction of a clue

That's the problem though.
post #25 of 28
Watch the home/real estate shows on HGTV when they pan almost full circle in every room of the house and try to keep your lunch down.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Watch the home/real estate shows on HGTV when they pan almost full circle in every room of the house and try to keep your lunch down.

That's why I'm shocked Food/HGTV use this method of stretching. It seems like all of their shows are shot the same. The food shows use the back and forth panning as the host cooks. The decorating/fix it shows pan around the rooms. That looks horrible in stretchovision.

Glad I'm not the only one who feels nauseated by this!
post #27 of 28
Or the old SD episodes of shows like Unwrapped where they show a closeup of cans or bottles moving down a processing line at high speed.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

It always does, because of Giada, her chest, her big head, and their big heads.

Amen it is a beautiful thing to have to look at and sometimes I watch her cook
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