**Official EMP Owner's Thread** - Page 48

Originally Posted by ousooner2 

Haha yeah I know what ya mean. At 4x the price of what I paid for my e55's though....I might just keep them lol. That BF pricing was just insane

Those Phil 3's look REALLY nice. Not a huge fan of the looks, but if they weren't in my actual living room...I wouldn't care.
Have you ran new EQ yet? Mine images pretty well. The e55's can carry the weight of a center image by themselves so the e56 I have just kinda anchors the sound a little. What does your room look like? Is the center in a cabinet or not flush with whatever its sitting on/in?

Originally Posted by Transmaniacon 

Can you try pulling the center to front edge of the TV stand? There could be something happening with the top of the stand.

Originally Posted by Shady195 

Already tried that Put some stuff underneath it too to point it up a little as well.. its not the end of the world, I just think it will take some getting used too.. Ill give it a few weeks and see if it really bothers me before I decide wether or not I hate it. Directional sounding aside, It sounds great with dialogue etc..

Originally Posted by Transmaniacon 

That's strange... A center is not supposed to sound directional by virtue of it's design, maybe someone else can chime in.

Originally Posted by ousooner2 

Headroom is always a good thing. I've found that out many times. The more power (to an extent obviously) the better depth and dynamic range I got.

Originally Posted by Pain Infliction 

What EQ do you have?

Originally Posted by cadett 

As far as on board mainstream EQ'ing, Audyssey is pretty much the cream of the crop. There are other receivers out there with proprietary Eq'ing that can do a better job than Audyssey(Anthem for Ex.). I think if you could treat your room, find optimum speaker location, & have at least Audyssey Multi Eq. You will be fine. Not sure if you seen this thread, but it has all the basic setup & info you need to get started,
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1449924/simplified-rew-setup-and-use-usb-mic-hdmi-connection-including-measurement-techniques-and-how-to-interpret-graphs

Originally Posted by Shady195 

Ousooner, I listened to that song love song by Adele and I noticed the resonance you were referring to early in the song. It was on those 2 deep guitar notes. Throughout these song there is that one constant deep note that presents that bit of resonance. Im not an audio guru but if you come up with a fix for the little resonance this speaker has I will be greatful

Originally Posted by cadett 

I've also heard it & I think it has a lot to do with the mixing. I haven't noticed it on anything else that I listened too. I wonder if the resonance might be actually on the track itself. What if the guitar was producing it? Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Shady195 

So thought you guys might like to know I had my friend bring over his Denon receiver with Audyssey yesterday so I can see what kind of difference it would make for the imaging on these speakers. What a world of difference between the yamaha and the Denon. Audyssey does one hell of a job..

Bought an Integra DTR-40.2 last night... This has been an expensive journey for me thus far buying all this ****

Originally Posted by ousooner2 

There are a lot of people out there that don't believe any EQ should be used, your speakers are crap if you have to use EQ, etc. I think EQ (IF USED & DONE CORRECTLY!) can be a very valuable thing. Audyssey might have flattened out my top end a little too much for music, but I'm sure I can recalibrate with the grilles off and possibly get them to come down a db or so on the top end. Overall the sound is VERY nice using MultEQ XT. If some of you are going with Audyssey, make sure you're getting MultEQ XT or XT32 as their filter resolution is much higher than just MultEQ and it also EQ's the sub.

When going back and forth between no EQ and Audyssey....I feel like there is more depth to the soundstage, more lively (likely due to bringing up the top end a little more) and the bass is a little more pronounced and tighter. It definitely doesn't hurt to run it and just see what your personal feelings are. Only your ears can tell you if your like it or don't like it. Audyssey did a good job with my center also. Brought it up what seems like a foot or 2 to be more even with the e55ti/tv. Once I get that stand and put the e56ci on top of it they stage will likely be pretty perfect as it'll be horizontal across the front 3. Sometimes I don't even know why I run the e56ci as the e55ti's in stereo will throw a PERFECTLY centered image if needed (at 7.5'-8' apart). Stage placement is pretty good also! Running a few setup discs with things like "7 drum beats across the stage"...Audyssey makes it perfect. Each is equally spread apart and spans the entire stage. For those that don't have the time or equipment to manually EQ, I highly suggest looking into MultEQ XT/XT32


Also...I haven't had any time to mess with the e55ti small resonance issue. Maybe tonight. I might order some polyfil and see if I can tame some resonance issues without messing with t/s parameters of the drivers too much.

Originally Posted by Transmaniacon 

So this cleared up your center channel issue? What yamaha receiver do you have? I have the RX-V665 and will be adding the E56Ci in a couple months, guess I might need Audyssey as well

Originally Posted by Shady195 

Yes and no, the most noticeable difference was on stereo content. With my HTD's there was a massive sweetspot with them angled in about 8ft apart, I could sit on either side of the couch and still sounded like music was comming front and center. With the EMPTEKS in that same layout it was very directional depending on what side of the couch I was on. I moved the EMP's about 10 ft apart with less of an angle and that made for a bigger sweet spot, but its still seems quite directional depending on what side of the couch im sitting on. I played with placement for a good 2 hours. Moving them as far apart, angled in more aggresively, decreassing the angle. Moving them closer in etc and comparing..

With audyssey it certainly opened up the sweet spot like my HTD's were. Sitting on either side of the couch I felt as though the sound was comming from front and center just like it should...

With the center channel and 5.1 content, it did seem to image better but still felt a bit directional to me, though I hooked up my HTD center and went back and forth a few times, while with strict dialouge you can tell the speaker is off to your left or right depending on what side your sitting on its more pronounced with the EMP center compared to the HTD.

I've come to the conclusion its due to more detail, ears become much more sensitive to all the detail comming out of that center mid range drive/tweeter array and the more distinct sound tickles the ear more on whatever side its sitting realitive to you. I've noticed though when I can shut my brain off and try and listen I don't really notice it.. the different sound comming from that center and the ammount of details has me paying to much attention being new compared to the HTD which I was used to.

Originally Posted by Transmaniacon 

That's interesting, I suppose I will see how it sounds when I finally make the purchase and then determine if I need better room correction. I have been using 2.1 for a while, so I would imagine adding a center is going to sound much better, seeing as I don't have a previous sound I am accustomed to like with your HTDs.

Originally Posted by Shady195 

The center is pretty awesome, running the speakers full range with no sub, its great to have a center that can keep up with the towers and not sound out of place

Originally Posted by Transmaniacon 

Yeah I am looking forward to it! I may also grab a pair of E5Bi's for surround and complete my setup.