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post #211 of 3149
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Originally Posted by mr2_503 View Post

I measured my ef30c earlier today and it looks pretty smooth.

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I measured it a foot off the floor and 36 inches away on axis.

Not bad.....
post #212 of 3149
http://http://www.emptek.com/es1010i.php

http://www.emptek.com/e55wi.php

http://www.emptek.com/e56ci.php

Any commments?
post #213 of 3149
Thread Starter 

those dipoles are nice, but pricey! I would rather have two pairs of the Emotivas for that price, IMO.
post #214 of 3149
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

those dipoles are nice, but pricey! I would rather have two pairs of the Emotivas for that price, IMO.

Actually, they are both $500.00 per pair. Also, the EMP's have an extra woofer that the Emo's don't have.
post #215 of 3149
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Originally Posted by larryfdx View Post

Actually, they are both $500.00 per pair. Also, the EMP's have an extra woofer that the Emo's don't have.

Emotiva ERD-1 dipoles are $249 per pair.
post #216 of 3149
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Originally Posted by alphaiii View Post

Emotiva ERD-1 dipoles are $249 per pair.

You're right! That is a great deal!
post #217 of 3149
Just Curious,

Anyone heard the new center the E56Ci from EMP? Just want to know if it is a big step up from the E5Ci.
post #218 of 3149
I got the EMP dipoles during the black friday weekend. They "replaced" the EMP bookshelf speakers i was using for rear surrounds. The difference was pretty amazing. There have been now multiple times when my wife and I have thought that soureffects were real (rainfall or water running).

The bookshelf speakers are now living in the bedroom.
post #219 of 3149
DAY 1:

Where to start.

Unfortunately all I can do at this time is a direct comparison to the polk 70 series. Before I talk about sound I am going to mention some other things that I noticed.

The finish of these speakers is overall good. I can tell why they are b stock due to some imperfections in the clear but they still look great. No dents, dings, or chips.

The brackets that attach to the bottom and hold the spiked feet are a nice touch. When you attach the spikes make sure you have 2 pair of pliers handy. I used pliers and needle nose. With the spikes in place these are much more stable than the polks.

The knock test makes these seem like a quality cabinet. They are a thud compared the the polks hollow ring. Overall they just seem solid.

With the grills off comparing the appearance and the drivers it is a no questions asked win for the emp tek. The wife loves the appearance also.

The grills sit flush with the front cover and the quality is good. The have a wooden frame and stay attached well.

My only complaint is the binding posts. My GLS banana plugs and these did not get along and I ended up putting them in the hole that the speaker wire would go in and tightening them down. The pics do not show this because at the time I was swapping back and forth from the polk to these.

Now for some eye candy.






















The speakers were wrapped in a fabric back to protect the finish. Then they had a plastic bag over the cloth bag. They had foam pieces with a cutout to accept the speaker fit to the inside of the box also to hold the speakers in place. The packaging job was very nice.









Now the initial plan was to keep the center boxed up incase I was not happy with the towers. Then I could send the center back and get a full refund. I had planned to keep the center tucked away unopened for a few days until I was sure I liked the emp over the polk. Well...a picture is worth a thousand words.











Ok, onto the audio. I have about 1.5 hours of moderate listening. I was able to really crank things up for about 5 minutes with the emp teks. I had no desire to do that with the polks because I already know the result.

Everything so far is 2 channel audio with no sub. I set the bass and treble back to 0 and disabled the audyssey for the most equal comparison I could do. These are being powered off of my acurus a3x200 which is fed from my onkyo 709

For tonight I listened to some avenged sevenfold, hurt, evanescence, and acoustic five finger death punch.

The polks have a bright in your face sound. Some vocals tend to go ssss ssss ssss at the end. I hope you can appreciate where I am coming from with that. The thing I do not like about the polks is no matter how much I jack with the EQ I cannot listen to these for any period of time without ear fatigue. Some voices tend to sound nasely IMO.

The emp tek's have a much different sound. They are more mellow and laid back. Not in your face at all. You can crank the volume as much as you want with no sound of brightness or ear fatigue. Everything sounds much more natural. One thing I really noticed was the accuracy of the bass drum compared to the polks. There is a firm attack and it is gone whereas the polks have more of a boomy lingering sound.

When I listened to a song at a volume of -30 on the polks, then switched to the emp teks and listened at the same level the overall volume and sound from the speakers was the same. Keep in mind the polks are 8 ohm and the emp teks are 6 ohm so my amp would be putting out a bit more power at the same volume.

For now that is all I am going to say. Once these speakers get some more play time and hours on them I will add some more. For now the clear winner for me is emp tek.

The strange thing about this whole deal was I had my wife sitting next to me for a few songs. We would listen to a song then I would switch the speakers back to the polks and listen to another song. Without telling her what I thought I asked her what she thought. Initially she did not know what speakers were what but she quickly caught on.

Her thoughts.

Polks bright and in your face. Unpleasant with volume. Highs sounded precise but somewhat overbearing. Somewhat bassey and kind of muddy.

Emp Tek smooth and laid back. Amy Lee's voice sounded much much better on the Emp Tek. Bass seemed tighter and precise.

Basically after the first song her blind unbiased test was done. She listened to a few more and now knew what to listen for to know what speaker was what.

She loves the looks of the new speakers and wanted to know when I will get the polks out of here. Right now the polks are on the local craigslist and I have 3 people interested. If they do not sell I am going to keep them in the living room until at least this weekend so I can do some more switching and comparing.

Other than the center channel working and seeming much louder than the polk I have not had any time with it to really give feedback.


DAY 2:

Last night I brought the sub back into the mix. Towers running full range and sub crossed over at 80hz. It blends so well. I did not swap to the polks for some more side by side comparison. I was enjoying the emp teks so much I could not bring myself to do it.

I am still running no EQ. I am going to wait till the polk setup is sold and out of there to run audyssey and get my new surround bookshelves in place.

Day 4:

Got the polks out of here. Getting these speakers where they arent as crowded seemed to make everything sound more spacious. Still loving them.

I can crank these as high as I want with no signs of harshness or breaking up or distortion. They just get plain loud while sounding just as musical as they do at comfortable levels. I love every bit of them. Since the polks are gone I am going to go ahead and pick up the rear surrounds monday.

I have some seat time with the center now and I can say it is a beast.





















I tried to get some of the wood grain pattern but it is hard to capture under living room lighting.
post #220 of 3149
Wow thanks.

When you get some time to watch some sports and movies, do you mind giving use an overview of the center speaker in terms of center image presentation?
post #221 of 3149
Nice review and comments! I have had my Emp speakers for around 5 months now, replaced Definitives.

I am very happy with them and I agree they are more laid back in their sound. For music and home theatre they have been excellent.
post #222 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

Wow thanks.

When you get some time to watch some sports and movies, do you mind giving use an overview of the center speaker in terms of center image presentation?

Yeah for now I can tell you that it really makes its presence known compared to the polk. I will not comment on the home theater side much until I get the matching surrounds and run audyssey. I did watch kung fu panda 2 with my son today and with the front soundstage seems so open now. It's hard to describe with words but everything just seems different.

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Originally Posted by hiprecked View Post

Nice review and comments! I have had my Emp speakers for around 5 months now, replaced Definitives.

I am very happy with them and I agree they are more laid back in their sound. For music and home theatre they have been excellent.

Yes they are laid back.

Oh, and I put a coat of pinnacle souveran spray wax on them today...LOLZ
post #223 of 3149
slammin,

Let us know. I am considering these as well for HT.

Also great write up and pics.
post #224 of 3149
Didn't go through the enitre thread...but can anyone give thoughts on the EMP E5Ti, the smaller towers?
post #225 of 3149
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Originally Posted by hiprecked View Post

Nice review and comments! I have had my Emp speakers for around 5 months now, replaced Definitives.

I am very happy with them and I agree they are more laid back in their sound. For music and home theatre they have been excellent.

What definitives were they?
post #226 of 3149
I received my E5ti towers last Friday. They were packed very well. Was a pain to get out of the box which to me is a good thing.

First impression was WOW these things are beautiful. I bought the Red Burl. I wanted the black but the wife wanted these. Is this the first case of HAF(husband approval factor). I am thinking that they sound as good as they look this would be a great find.

They sent me the outrigger feet. There is an instruction sheet and some wood screws. Talked with Brian from Emptek and they had to do this after a design change. The slots on the feet do not match the inserts in the speakers. Went to my dads and we made the slots bigger. I just could not bring myself to drill holes on the speakers.


Got the feet put on and hooked up only one of the speakers at first. Turned on some music through my Denon 791 and will have to admit I was disappointed at first. After about 5 min these speakers started to sing. Wife was in the kitchen and she noticed that something sounded really good. On the other channel was a Pioneer FS51. Now don't get me wrong because the Pioneer is a good speaker but the Emp speaker was alot more defined. The highs were very crisp and the mids were mellow and came through very smooth. The bass was present but not extremely low. Now remember I have not ran any calibration at all.


Fast forward 5 days. The Emps have really started to impress me more and more. I have yet to run any calibration yet. My new plasma had a stuck pixel so it is out for a warranty repair so my HT setup is in pieces at the moment. Using the loaner tv we have watched a few shows and the voices come through very clear. I do not have to push these as hard as I did the Pioneers to hear the shows.

So far I am very satisfied with my purchase. Over the last few days the bass is starting to wake up. They are very neutral and balanced. I will move these to surrounds when I get the bigger towers and the center.

Hope this helps others when making a decision. For the money I don't think you cam go wrong.
post #227 of 3149
Thanks for the review!
post #228 of 3149
WOW!!!!! the other EMP thread got locked because they were arguing, totally ruined the thread. didn't know they had this thread but i'm glad i found it. anyways, i have the E55ti's and my VSX-1121 should be here tomorrow according to the tracking info. i received an email from Emptek regarding upcoming sales and here's what they wrote to me:


From: Gene Manning [mailto:geneico2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:56 PM
To: info@emptek.com
Subject: centers and surrounds



Hello Emptek,

i received the E55ti's from you and very pleased with your product. i did read on the avsforum.com that you might be having a sale on some upcoming speakers? i was wondering if you had any specials on your E56ci and E55wi soon as i want to complete my surround setup within the next couple of weeks. i really want to stick with the same brand as i read many great reviews on your speakers. much appreciated!

Gene Manning

Thank you for your message. Yes, we will be having a sale within the next week or two which will include the majority of the Impression Series. We look forward to earning more of your business!



Take care,



Daren



Daren B. Egan

Sales & Marketing Director Engineered Music Products

(801) 991-1308 / egandb@emptek.com
post #229 of 3149
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

Got the feet put on and hooked up only one of the speakers at first. Turned on some music through my Denon 791 and will have to admit I was disappointed at first. After about 5 min these speakers started to sing. Wife was in the kitchen and she noticed that something sounded really good. On the other channel was a Pioneer FS51. Now don't get me wrong because the Pioneer is a good speaker but the Emp speaker was alot more defined. The highs were very crisp and the mids were mellow and came through very smooth. The bass was present but not extremely low. Now remember I have not ran any calibration at all.


Fast forward 5 days. The Emps have really started to impress me more and more. I have yet to run any calibration yet. My new plasma had a stuck pixel so it is out for a warranty repair so my HT setup is in pieces at the moment. Using the loaner tv we have watched a few shows and the voices come through very clear. I do not have to push these as hard as I did the Pioneers to hear the shows.

So far I am very satisfied with my purchase. Over the last few days the bass is starting to wake up. They are very neutral and balanced. I will move these to surrounds when I get the bigger towers and the center.

Hope this helps others when making a decision. For the money I don't think you cam go wrong.

Great review...thanks! Would you say that they are bright sounding or detailed in the high end? I prefer a speaker that is just about reaching the bright level where I can hear every cymbal being hit. Warm speakers bore me pretty fast.....
post #230 of 3149
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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg View Post

WOW!!!!! the other EMP thread got locked because they were arguing, totally ruined the thread. didn't know they had this thread but i'm glad i found it. anyways, i have the E55ti's and my VSX-1121 should be here tomorrow according to the tracking info. i received an email from Emptek regarding upcoming sales and here's what they wrote to me:


From: Gene Manning [mailto:geneico2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:56 PM
To: info@emptek.com
Subject: centers and surrounds



Hello Emptek,

i received the E55ti's from you and very pleased with your product. i did read on the avsforum.com that you might be having a sale on some upcoming speakers? i was wondering if you had any specials on your E56ci and E55wi soon as i want to complete my surround setup within the next couple of weeks. i really want to stick with the same brand as i read many great reviews on your speakers. much appreciated!

Gene Manning

Thank you for your message. Yes, we will be having a sale within the next week or two which will include the majority of the Impression Series. We look forward to earning more of your business!



Take care,



Daren



Daren B. Egan

Sales & Marketing Director Engineered Music Products

(801) 991-1308 / egandb@emptek.com



Interesting..

Djoel
post #231 of 3149
I would day that they are bright but not to the point that it is overbearing. The voices on music comes through very clear. On tv shows the voices are very clear and you do not have to strain to hear or turn up the volume. I am using my Pioneer center for now and it does not keep up with this Emps. It does good with the other Pioneers though. Makes me a believer in timbre matching.

I think that these will make good mains but I am wanting the bigger towers. I mean my wife wants them so as long as mom is happy.

Hopefully I will be adding an svs sub soon. I have a Polk PSW505 and it does good with music but bottoms out easy on movies.

Hope that answered your question. I can not get my wife to shut them off. Now if I can get her to learn how to use the receiver I will have it made. Every 5min I get "why is this doing this". I know baby steps. Lol
post #232 of 3149
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

I would day that they are bright but not to the point that it is overbearing. The voices on music comes through very clear. On tv shows the voices are very clear and you do not have to strain to hear or turn up the volume. I am using my Pioneer center for now and it does not keep up with this Emps. It does good with the other Pioneers though. Makes me a believer in timbre matching.

I think that these will make good mains but I am wanting the bigger towers. I mean my wife wants them so as long as mom is happy.

Hopefully I will be adding an svs sub soon. I have a Polk PSW505 and it does good with music but bottoms out easy on movies.

Hope that answered your question. I can not get my wife to shut them off. Now if I can get her to learn how to use the receiver I will have it made. Every 5min I get "why is this doing this". I know baby steps. Lol

HAHA!!! Sounds good.....always good to keep the wife happy!! Thanks for the reply. Sounds like you found a great speaker!
post #233 of 3149
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Originally Posted by NewToHT View Post

Great review...thanks! Would you say that they are bright sounding or detailed in the high end? I prefer a speaker that is just about reaching the bright level where I can hear every cymbal being hit. Warm speakers bore me pretty fast.....

They are neither warm nor bright. The high end is present and clear but never prominent. The lower mids are also present but never prominent.

If the recording emphasizes those cymbal crashes, you will hear them well and fine. If the recording recesses those cymbal crashes, don't expect the speakers to bring them into the limelight. The speaker just lets the recording shine... as well as it can shine on a sub 1K speaker of course.

So yes.. they are a boring speaker because they don't add any salt, pepper, sugar, masala, oregano to the balance. Ain't that the point? To let the recording itself dominate, not the speaker's interpretation?
post #234 of 3149
What he said.
post #235 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

They are neither warm nor bright. The high end is present and clear but never prominent. The lower mids are also present but never prominent.

If the recording emphasizes those cymbal crashes, you will hear them well and fine. If the recording recesses those cymbal crashes, don't expect the speakers to bring them into the limelight. The speaker just lets the recording shine... as well as it can shine on a sub 1K speaker of course.

So yes.. they are a boring speaker because they don't add any salt, pepper, sugar, masala, oregano to the balance. Ain't that the point? To let the recording itself dominate, not the speaker's interpretation?

I couldn't agree more. I have been listening to pink floyd the wall 2011 disc and am hearing things that I did not know existed in that song. I have yet to get ear fatigue which would happen 5 minutes into the polks.
post #236 of 3149
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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg View Post

WOW!!!!! the other EMP thread got locked because they were arguing, totally ruined the thread. didn't know they had this thread but i'm glad i found it. anyways, i have the E55ti's and my VSX-1121 should be here tomorrow according to the tracking info. i received an email from Emptek regarding upcoming sales and here's what they wrote to me:


From: Gene Manning [mailto:geneico2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:56 PM
To: info@emptek.com
Subject: centers and surrounds



Hello Emptek,

i received the E55ti's from you and very pleased with your product. i did read on the avsforum.com that you might be having a sale on some upcoming speakers? i was wondering if you had any specials on your E56ci and E55wi soon as i want to complete my surround setup within the next couple of weeks. i really want to stick with the same brand as i read many great reviews on your speakers. much appreciated!

Gene Manning

Thank you for your message. Yes, we will be having a sale within the next week or two which will include the majority of the Impression Series. We look forward to earning more of your business!



Take care,



Daren



Daren B. Egan

Sales & Marketing Director Engineered Music Products

(801) 991-1308 / egandb@emptek.com

Thank you for this. I will continue to wait to pick up my surround's.
post #237 of 3149
was all pumped to buy a full system from them and then the bad news..................................DOESNT SHIP TO CANADA.


One day i will find a system in Canada.
post #238 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Scottyp3 View Post

was all pumped to buy a full system from them and then the bad news..................................DOESNT SHIP TO CANADA.


One day i will find a system in Canada.

Ummmmmm......Paradigm??
post #239 of 3149
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Originally Posted by NewToHT View Post

Ummmmmm......Paradigm??


ya thats what im leaning towards. All the local stores ive gone to have mass mark up. Direct would be nice.
post #240 of 3149
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Originally Posted by slammin86 View Post

Thank you for this. I will continue to wait to pick up my surround's.

same here! i've been waiting and waiting and finally had to email them and find out what's going on. at least i know i won't be paying full price more money to spend else where!
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