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post #421 of 1663
4/5/12 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by mrrame View Post

I had the e55ti towers twice in my cart, before somebody here said that their cheap *** entry level jamo speakers had better sound. I was using the jamo towers as my surround, and later sold them.

anyway, cant really go by what you read here, I should have bought them and tried it myself. Hope they have the b-stock sale again.

Yeah.....you should have given them a try as I think they are a bit better than Jamo. I am sure they'll have more B' stock at some point though. Keep in mind their new speakers also include shipping back if you don't like them....which is a nice perk and one that my friend took full advantage of.
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post #422 of 1663
4/5/12 at 10:12am
Hmmm..

So if I read between the lines, here is what I read

Buy A stock. Try them.
Send them back if you like them.
Wait for a sale on B stock to come along and get them then.
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post #423 of 1663
4/5/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by chikoo View Post

Hmmm..

So if I read between the lines, here is what I read

Buy A stock. Try them.
Send them back if you like them.
Wait for a sale on B stock to come along and get them then.

The problem with this is that you probably won't see the 55ti's B stock appear on the clearance page.
Everyone who missed out the first time probably signed up for the waiting list.....I would guess that the waiting list would have to be cleared before you'll ever see them hit the web page.....a long,long,time,imo.

When I got the 55ti's in red burl,I jumped on them,immediately.....6 hours later,they dissappeared.......I can't imagine boxing-up speakers that I really liked.....shipping them back,just to save $100-200 bucks......too convoluted and a little too deceitful for me
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post #424 of 1663
4/5/12 at 1:55pm
ok lets try again, and I hope they work, if not trust me they look great!!! just sucks they are missing the low but I wanted a good sub anyways so for the money they are good speakers













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post #425 of 1663
4/5/12 at 6:55pm
I hooked up the new Denon AVR-1712. Ran Multi EQ Xt and...
Meh.

Because it's in a tiny bedroom it had everything dialed way down.
Started dialing things in to my liking and...



They're alive! The E5Ti's are alive! The problem was my old HTIB Onkyo. Problem solved.
I temporarily set the fronts to large 2 channel with the sub off and the bass was sooooo much better. Nice tight little punch in the chest when I'm sitting in my chair. Nice rumble under my feet. No bottoming out boxy sound. The Onkyo simply didn't have enough power or the quality they deserve.

Now I want the larger E55Ti's. I might build risers for these E5Ti's. I doubt EMP Tek will have any B stock or clearance E56Ci's when I'm ready to buy a center next month so I'm going to have to go with a different brand for the fronts (probably refurbs). That HTIB center I have is nails on the chalkboard bad and has to go ASAP. Because I'm such a HT virgin I don't want to marry any speaker right now but if I could afford the E55ti's and the E56Ci's I would place the order. After properly hearing the E5Ti's I have no doubt the others are quality speakers too.

I've never been so happy to have a pressure headache!
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post #426 of 1663
4/5/12 at 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by Albert's Fish View Post

I hooked up the new Denon AVR-1712. Ran Multi EQ Xt and...
Meh.

Because it's in a tiny bedroom it had everything dialed way down.
Started dialing things in to my liking and...



They're alive! The E5Ti's are alive! The problem was my old HTIB Onkyo. Problem solved.
I temporarily set the fronts to large 2 channel with the sub off and the bass was sooooo much better. Nice tight little punch in the chest when I'm sitting in my chair. Nice rumble under my feet. No bottoming out boxy sound. The Onkyo simply didn't have enough power or the quality they deserve.

Now I want the larger E55Ti's. I might build risers for these E5Ti's. I doubt EMP Tek will have any B stock or clearance E56Ci's when I'm ready to buy a center next month so I'm going to have to go with a different brand for the fronts (probably refurbs). That HTIB center I have is nails on the chalkboard bad and has to go ASAP. Because I'm such a HT virgin I don't want to marry any speaker right now but if I could afford the E55ti's and the E56Ci's I would place the order. After properly hearing the E5Ti's I have no doubt the others are quality speakers too.

I've never been so happy to have a pressure headache!

If you can get the 5ti's up so the tweeter is at ear level at your seating position,I think you would be pleasantly surprised.......still think you should try hooking up the Bic sub via the high-level inputs/outputs as the base management would be better....peter
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post #427 of 1663
4/6/12 at 1:33am
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Originally Posted by Katsumoto View Post

I ordered mine on 3/31 not knowing it was about to end. They were sent on the 2nd. I guess I just lucked out. Seems like a very good deal.

It said they were A stock. So were they just clearing out an old model?

Got them a couple days ago. Look fantastic and are bigger than I expected. For small towers, they seem pretty damn big.

Waiting on a Denon 1912 to get here Monday to try them. I'm sure I'll be very pleased as I'm only used to HTIB setups.
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post #428 of 1663
4/6/12 at 1:34am
Oh and does anyone have any advice for budget surrounds to go with the E5ti's and a BIC F12?
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post #429 of 1663
4/6/12 at 5:50am
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Originally Posted by Albert's Fish View Post

I hooked up the new Denon AVR-1712. Ran Multi EQ Xt and...
Meh.

Because it's in a tiny bedroom it had everything dialed way down.
Started dialing things in to my liking and...

They're alive! The E5Ti's are alive! The problem was my old HTIB Onkyo. Problem solved.
I temporarily set the fronts to large 2 channel with the sub off and the bass was sooooo much better. Nice tight little punch in the chest when I'm sitting in my chair. Nice rumble under my feet. No bottoming out boxy sound. The Onkyo simply didn't have enough power or the quality they deserve.

Now I want the larger E55Ti's. I might build risers for these E5Ti's. I doubt EMP Tek will have any B stock or clearance E56Ci's when I'm ready to buy a center next month so I'm going to have to go with a different brand for the fronts (probably refurbs). That HTIB center I have is nails on the chalkboard bad and has to go ASAP. Because I'm such a HT virgin I don't want to marry any speaker right now but if I could afford the E55ti's and the E56Ci's I would place the order. After properly hearing the E5Ti's I have no doubt the others are quality speakers too.

I've never been so happy to have a pressure headache!

It sounds like your sub may not be up to the task. What sub you running? How do you integrate your sub? Whats your procedure? Those mains shoulnt out-run a sub in the bass region unless the sub cant keep up or is poorly integrated.......

If your center is that bad and your mains are relatively close together you might like a phantom center better than what you got now......
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post #430 of 1663
4/6/12 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by chikoo View Post

Hmmm..

So if I read between the lines, here is what I read

Buy A stock. Try them.
Send them back if you like them.
Wait for a sale on B stock to come along and get them then.

HA!! No.....that's not what I meant....although very clever idea! I was just saying that you could try them risk free. Very nice perk!
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post #431 of 1663
4/7/12 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

It sounds like your sub may not be up to the task. What sub you running? How do you integrate your sub? Whats your procedure? Those mains shoulnt out-run a sub in the bass region unless the sub cant keep up or is poorly integrated.......

If your center is that bad and your mains are relatively close together you might like a phantom center better than what you got now......

Heh, no the BIC PL-200 does quite well for this tiny bedroom. In my last post I mentioned I turned it off via the receiver when testing the sound from the E5Ti towers.

Wu-Tang's song "triumph" is a good example of bass that I believe should be handled by a tower speaker. It's up in that frequency range. There should be a thump in my chest from just the towers from that song and there was. Turning on the sub intensified that thump, yes, but it was present with only the towers. That's what I want. That's what I have. Had I not had to have the extra thump I would have purchased bookshelf speakers.

The front towers are 8ft appart from each other, however I am always sitting off-center. The sub is in the rear due to space constrictions.
Here's the funny thing. The listening area between the fronts and the sub is only 6ft. When I lay down my heal is on the front speaker and my head is touching the sub. I just got a great idea for a bed frame.
Not an ideal space but the rent is right. Pics a page or two back.

Hey Peter,
"still think you should try hooking up the Bic sub via the high-level inputs/outputs as the base management would be better....peter"
what would I have to adjust in my receiver should I try this? Because I wouldn't have anything hooked up to the sub out on the receiver I would have to turn it off in the receiver wouldn't I?
Right now under "Bass Settings" I have the "Subwoofer Mode" set to "LPF for LFE" as that provided the fullest sound in stereo mode. Crossover for the fronts is 60Hz for Stereo music.
Sounds pretty. If I did wire the speakers to the sub in the way in which you mentioned would that mess up my True HD Blu-ray movie experience?
I'm to weak right now to move them plus I don't have banana plugs yet so this experiment will have to wait.
I'm happy with the way they are now but I am curious as to how they would sound in comparison to your method.

*Oh, and I only have 16 guage speaker wire. How many feet can I go with these speakers using that small of a wire?*
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post #432 of 1663
4/7/12 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by Albert's Fish View Post

Heh, no the BIC PL-200 does quite well for this tiny bedroom. In my last post I mentioned I turned it off via the receiver when testing the sound from the E5Ti towers.

Wu-Tang's song "triumph" is a good example of bass that I believe should be handled by a tower speaker. It's up in that frequency range. There should be a thump in my chest from just the towers from that song and there was. Turning on the sub intensified that thump, yes, but it was present with only the towers. That's what I want. That's what I have. Had I not had to have the extra thump I would have purchased bookshelf speakers.

The front towers are 8ft appart from each other, however I am always sitting off-center. The sub is in the rear due to space constrictions.
Here's the funny thing. The listening area between the fronts and the sub is only 6ft. When I lay down my heal is on the front speaker and my head is touching the sub. I just got a great idea for a bed frame.
Not an ideal space but the rent is right. Pics a page or two back.

Hey Peter,
"still think you should try hooking up the Bic sub via the high-level inputs/outputs as the base management would be better....peter"
what would I have to adjust in my receiver should I try this? Because I wouldn't have anything hooked up to the sub out on the receiver I would have to turn it off in the receiver wouldn't I?
Right now under "Bass Settings" I have the "Subwoofer Mode" set to "LPF for LFE" as that provided the fullest sound in stereo mode. Crossover for the fronts is 60Hz for Stereo music.
Sounds pretty. If I did wire the speakers to the sub in the way in which you mentioned would that mess up my True HD Blu-ray movie experience?
I'm to weak right now to move them plus I don't have banana plugs yet so this experiment will have to wait.
I'm happy with the way they are now but I am curious as to how they would sound in comparison to your method.

*Oh, and I only have 16 guage speaker wire. How many feet can I go with these speakers using that small of a wire?*

16 guage is fine at that short distance.... save your money......The Bic is a pretty good sub for the money.....I have a acoustech center with a horn tweeter and 2 big,8" woofers these are similar to the Bic line......they're sort of "imitation" Klipsch speakers for short money.

In that small a room,I wouldn't worry about surround speakers....a nice center should be your priority.

What I think is that you have the E5ti's too far apart.I would move them closer together and don't toe them in,as you said you are sitting a litle "off axis"......The high- level input/output connection,I was suggesting is better for 2ch music and this would negate using the LFE input on the Denon.

It doesn't sound like it's for you,if your primary listening is BR movies......go slow and get things right,is my advice...peter
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post #433 of 1663
4/7/12 at 5:10pm
anyone running the Emptek E5bi bookshelf setup for front heights or front wide and what effect that does? my Pioneer 1121 allows for this and i'm on this "let's spend more money for the heck of it"...overkill?
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post #434 of 1663
4/8/12 at 3:23pm
Finally got everything hooked up and running.
Here is what the set up consists of:
Panasonic ST50
Panasonic BDT110 Bluray player
XBox 360
Wii
Denon 2112ci
Emp E55TI's for mains
Emp E56CI for center
Emp E5TI as surrounds
AND NOW A HSU VTF15H

So far I am very pleased. There has been alot of debating going on about these speakers. All though this is my first attempt at a HT set up,I am pleased at how everything blends together. For the price I feel as though I have put together a nice system for the money.

The bass is a little lacking but that is what the sub is for. As far as highs and mids they sound smooth to my ears.

When it comes to CS Emp was great. Brian was really helpful and everthing was delivered in excellent condition. I really can not believe that these speakers were B-stock. I have yet to find a flaw.
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post #435 of 1663
4/8/12 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

Finally got everything hooked up and running.
Here is what the set up consists of:
Panasonic ST50
Panasonic BDT110 Bluray player
XBox 360
Wii
Denon 2112ci
Emp E55TI's for mains
Emp E56CI for center
Emp E5TI as surrounds
AND NOW A HSU VTF15H

So far I am very pleased. There has been alot of debating going on about these speakers. All though this is my first attempt at a HT set up,I am pleased at how everything blends together. For the price I feel as though I have put together a nice system for the money.

The bass is a little lacking but that is what the sub is for. As far as highs and mids they sound smooth to my ears.

When it comes to CS Emp was great. Brian was really helpful and everthing was delivered in excellent condition. I really can not believe that these speakers were B-stock. I have yet to find a flaw.

does that receiver handle the power output?
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post #436 of 1663
4/8/12 at 3:34pm
I put in some bass heavy music and had it set at -17 and it was loud but not distorted. I feel as though,for my needs,it does a great job. I have had it on all day watching the Masters and this is what has happened.
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post #437 of 1663
4/8/12 at 4:44pm
Yea, I am really questioning the determination of "B" stock! My E5TI towers were perfect, atleast until my dog knocked on over and scratched them.

I put on a real bass heavy CD (Howlin Rain, an obscure but excellent rock band) and man, those E5ti were really excellent with that CD. The bass was perfectly undistorted at reasonable to high volume and the the rest of the sound was clear and detailed!
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post #438 of 1663
4/9/12 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

Finally got everything hooked up and running.
Here is what the set up consists of:
Panasonic ST50
Panasonic BDT110 Bluray player
XBox 360
Wii
Denon 2112ci
Emp E55TI's for mains
Emp E56CI for center
Emp E5TI as surrounds
AND NOW A HSU VTF15H

So far I am very pleased. There has been alot of debating going on about these speakers. All though this is my first attempt at a HT set up,I am pleased at how everything blends together. For the price I feel as though I have put together a nice system for the money.

The bass is a little lacking but that is what the sub is for. As far as highs and mids they sound smooth to my ears.

When it comes to CS Emp was great. Brian was really helpful and everthing was delivered in excellent condition. I really can not believe that these speakers were B-stock. I have yet to find a flaw.

that's awesome! how do you like the E5ti's for surrounds? i was gonna go that route but Brian convinced me that the E55wi's was gonna give me a surround feel where you can't pinpoint where it's coming from. maybe because of the dipole design? anyhow, congrats on the setup! so far i have yet performed MCACC on my AV cause i'm waiting for the surrounds to come in and with just everything straight out of the box not calibrated sounds awesome. i just can't imagine how much better it'll sound when everything's calibrated!
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post #439 of 1663
4/9/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg View Post

that's awesome! how do you like the E5ti's for surrounds? i was gonna go that route but Brian convinced me that the E55wi's was gonna give me a surround feel where you can't pinpoint where it's coming from. maybe because of the dipole design? anyhow, congrats on the setup! so far i have yet performed MCACC on my AV cause i'm waiting for the surrounds to come in and with just everything straight out of the box not calibrated sounds awesome. i just can't imagine how much better it'll sound when everything's calibrated!

I think that the towers work great for surrounds. I have to put them behind the couch and they are very stable. I was afraid that with bookshelf speakers,on stands,would get knocked over. No little kids but active dog. I also do not have a wall that I could mount them to. The living room,kitchen and dining room is one big open space.

So far I am very pleased with the sound. I have pushed them alittle with tv and music they sound great to me.

The HSU sub has made an awesome difference in the quality of the overall sound. This thing is a beast. It is huge.

Wife loves the new system so I can not complain.
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post #440 of 1663
4/10/12 at 10:51am
my E55wi's should be in a few days and i talked to Brian for a couple of advice on crossover setup. he recommended since i'm running the E55ti's, E56ci and E55wi's to set the AV to SMALL speakers all around with the subwoofer set to 45hz. he said that should give me a well balanced sound. getting excited cause now my HT should be complete. IMHO i don't see myself upgrading to a higher end system when i'm completely satisfied with what i have now. anyone here feel with these Emptek that they feel like eventually they would upgrade again?

oh i forgot, for the surrounds should they be pointing downward at an angle or flush on the wall?? He did recommend not to place them in the corners of the wall but at least 3' away from it. thoughts?
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post #441 of 1663
4/10/12 at 11:14am
Someone mentioned in a previous post that Brian had told them that additional sales on EMP speakers where forthcoming...anyone hearing anything?
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post #442 of 1663
4/10/12 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg View Post

my E55wi's should be in a few days and i talked to Brian for a couple of advice on crossover setup. he recommended since i'm running the E55ti's, E56ci and E55wi's to set the AV to SMALL speakers all around with the subwoofer set to 45hz. he said that should give me a well balanced sound. getting excited cause now my HT should be complete. IMHO i don't see myself upgrading to a higher end system when i'm completely satisfied with what i have now. anyone here feel with these Emptek that they feel like eventually they would upgrade again?

oh i forgot, for the surrounds should they be pointing downward at an angle or flush on the wall?? He did recommend not to place them in the corners of the wall but at least 3' away from it. thoughts?

45hz seems low to me. I have mine set to 80hz and set to 60hz for 2 channel when listening to music. Below 60hz the mains sounded like they struggled a bit.
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post #443 of 1663
4/10/12 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

45hz seems low to me. I have mine set to 80hz and set to 60hz for 2 channel when listening to music. Below 60hz the mains sounded like they struggled a bit.

at first he did recommend setting between 50-60hz but than rechecked the frequency on the other speakers than said i should set it at 45hz. i'mma play around with it a bit and do so more researching but i figured i'd ask him since he knew more about this product line than we do. i'm thinking at 45hz it probably allows the subs on the E55ti's to be used more than the external subwoofer?
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post #444 of 1663
4/10/12 at 2:19pm
turn the sub fq all the way up or off. set the crossover on your avr to 80hz. That is THX recommenddations.
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post #445 of 1663
4/10/12 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg View Post

my E55wi's should be in a few days and i talked to Brian for a couple of advice on crossover setup. he recommended since i'm running the E55ti's, E56ci and E55wi's to set the AV to SMALL speakers all around with the subwoofer set to 45hz. he said that should give me a well balanced sound. getting excited cause now my HT should be complete. IMHO i don't see myself upgrading to a higher end system when i'm completely satisfied with what i have now. anyone here feel with these Emptek that they feel like eventually they would upgrade again?

oh i forgot, for the surrounds should they be pointing downward at an angle or flush on the wall?? He did recommend not to place them in the corners of the wall but at least 3' away from it. thoughts?

its best to have the tweeters at ear level so if you put them on the wall higher than the listening position point them downward.
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post #446 of 1663
4/10/12 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by Elihawk View Post

Someone mentioned in a previous post that Brian had told them that additional sales on EMP speakers where forthcoming...anyone hearing anything?

They're supposed to be emailling a coupon to previous purchasers....As of yet,I don't think anyone has received one......peter
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post #447 of 1663
4/10/12 at 5:36pm
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

45hz seems low to me. I have mine set to 80hz and set to 60hz for 2 channel when listening to music. Below 60hz the mains sounded like they struggled a bit.

I'm using thr Rel sub with the high level inputs/outputs for 2 channel music.....I have the sub set to 55hz.....sounds wonderfull.....peter
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post #448 of 1663
4/10/12 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by Pain Infliction View Post

its best to have the tweeters at ear level so if you put them on the wall higher than the listening position point them downward.

okay, good to know! i'm thinking about 4-5' up from the bottom of the wall is about ear level i think...
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post #449 of 1663
4/10/12 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

45hz seems low to me. I have mine set to 80hz and set to 60hz for 2 channel when listening to music. Below 60hz the mains sounded like they struggled a bit.

are you setting this on the AVR with 2 saved settings or are you going behind the sub and manually adjusting the frequency?
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post #450 of 1663
4/10/12 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by Pain Infliction View Post

turn the sub fq all the way up or off. set the crossover on your avr to 80hz. That is THX recommenddations.

you mean passed 100hz or down to 0? sorry, dumb question. i'm looking at the adjusting knob and i can turn it up or down.
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