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post #871 of 3154
this may be a stupid question, but how are you all hooking up two subs? just Y-splitting the rca to each one?

so jealous of you all, i won't be getting my BF speakers until after the new years (my choice which emp tek totally accommodated for which was awesome).. still jealous though!
post #872 of 3154
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Originally Posted by deecue View Post

this may be a stupid question, but how are you all hooking up two subs? just Y-splitting the rca to each one?
so jealous of you all, i won't be getting my BF speakers until after the new years (my choice which emp tek totally accommodated for which was awesome).. still jealous though!

You can use a Y splitter. Also, some receivers have dual subwoofer outputs. In the case of the 1010i EMP Tek woofer, it has an in and an out port. So I have an RCA going into the first woofer and then an RCA coming from the out port and running into the second woofer.
post #873 of 3154
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

You can use a Y splitter. Also, some receivers have dual subwoofer outputs. In the case of the 1010i EMP Tek woofer, it has an in and an out port. So I have an RCA going into the first woofer and then an RCA coming from the out port and running into the second woofer.

nice.
thank you sir.
post #874 of 3154



lol..jk Eastside
post #875 of 3154
I'm really excited about EMP after reading this entire thread and any reviews I can find. My question is for those who have had both the E5ti and the 55ti, is the sound a lot different when moving up to the 55's? I'm more worried about 80hz and up, I'm sure the 55's dig deeper but does the extra midrange driver add to the fullness of the sound or are they similar in that regard?

Also I see the 10i and the 1010i sub both use a 250W amp, is there a big difference in moving up to the dual 10 inch setup?
post #876 of 3154
The 55s vs the 5s. How big is your room? I have the 5s and with sub, the do very well in my 16x 20 room (8 foot ceilings). The larger tower will certainly play louder and a bit lower, but with a decent sub, you may not notice. One issue with the e5ti is the height- the tweeters sit below average sitting ear level...so mine are pitched up just a bit.
post #877 of 3154
I've seen your setup it's nice for sure, my room right now is 13 x 15' roughly but I don't mind getting the better speaker for the long run and will be buying a house within a year or 2 so a bigger room is likely. I've heard about the height issue and I don't think it would be a problem personally, I have Polk Monitor 60's which are 2 inches taller but the tweeter is probably at about 30" and I haven't noticed any issues with that. I'm leaning toward the 55's for the extra midrange driver, the extra woofer isn't a big deal to me as I prefer crossing my speakers over at 80-100hz. Eli have you heard the 55's?

By the way if anyone with the 5s or 55's is close to Cincinnati, OH and wouldn't mind showing off their speakers I would love to listen to them.
Edited by aarons915 - 12/4/12 at 5:55am
post #878 of 3154
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Originally Posted by aarons915 View Post

Also I see the 10i and the 1010i sub both use a 250W amp, is there a big difference in moving up to the dual 10 inch setup?

Two 10" woofers equal more surface area than one. More SPL, more bass.
post #879 of 3154
All else equal....lower distortion for a given SPL too, though sub 80hz distortion and what's an audible change is a topic for another day
post #880 of 3154
The megasub has arrived. I see that the sub vents down and comes delivered with prongs. I assume that they have to stay to get it to perform properly? I am placing the sub on a hard floor.

Gosh, this thing is huge! Reading the dimensions do not do it justice. It makes my Velodyne 12 look svelte. It come just to the bottom of the projector screen. I have to rethink where I was going to put it...
post #881 of 3154
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

The megasub has arrived. I see that the sub vents down and comes delivered with prongs. I assume that they have to stay to get it to perform properly? I am placing the sub on a hard floor.
Gosh, this thing is huge! Reading the dimensions do not do it justice. It makes my Velodyne 12 look svelte. It come just to the bottom of the projector screen. I have to rethink where I was going to put it...

It is a huge sub! Yeah, you'll want the spikes on since it has a down firing port. You don't want the port all plugged up. You want a little space down there for that port to slam out onto the ground! If you've got the sub on a hard floor, you might want some type of rubber mat or feet to put under the sub spikes. Might help reduce vibration or the possibility of the sub sliding around. Although, you'll have to hook it up first and try it out before you decide how to proceed. Enjoy it! My two subs just pound! As I've said, obviously, the specialty sub companies do better, but you also pay ten times more money. These subs are no slouch!
post #882 of 3154
The Velodyne was a steal from CC for about $150 or so, on retrun. It was a year before they went out of business and probably one of the reasons that they did.

The Velodyne vented out the back and the speaker fired forward. How far from the wall should the 1010i be? The Velodyne was venting into another room behind the projector screen. How close to a wall can/should this sub be? The pamphlet emp sent wasn't much help. I plan to have it nearly dead center of a rectangular room.

I think I was wrong on my initial math, the square inches seems to be about 40% more than the 12, I was thinking it would have been closer to even. We'll see how it sounds! The wife is away for the next few days, it's going to be loud here.
post #883 of 3154
And to think... Some say size doesn't matter !smile.gif
post #884 of 3154
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

The Velodyne was a steal from CC for about $150 or so, on retrun. It was a year before they went out of business and probably one of the reasons that they did.
The Velodyne vented out the back and the speaker fired forward. How far from the wall should the 1010i be? The Velodyne was venting into another room behind the projector screen. How close to a wall can/should this sub be? The pamphlet emp sent wasn't much help. I plan to have it nearly dead center of a rectangular room.
I think I was wrong on my initial math, the square inches seems to be about 40% more than the 12, I was thinking it would have been closer to even. We'll see how it sounds! The wife is away for the next few days, it's going to be loud here.

You can place the sub right up against the wall. That's actually the desired placement, in the corner of the room or along a wall. It typically makes the bass slam harder having it near a wall or the corner of a room.
post #885 of 3154
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

The Velodyne was a steal from CC for about $150 or so, on retrun. It was a year before they went out of business and probably one of the reasons that they did.
The Velodyne vented out the back and the speaker fired forward. How far from the wall should the 1010i be? The Velodyne was venting into another room behind the projector screen. How close to a wall can/should this sub be? The pamphlet emp sent wasn't much help. I plan to have it nearly dead center of a rectangular room.
I think I was wrong on my initial math, the square inches seems to be about 40% more than the 12, I was thinking it would have been closer to even. We'll see how it sounds! The wife is away for the next few days, it's going to be loud here.


Velodyne went out of business? eek.gif


Djoel
post #886 of 3154
No, he bought it before Circuit City went out of business.
post #887 of 3154
So I was browsing HomeTheaterShack forums for EMP reviews, etc...and happened to come across someone (not sure if he posts here too??) that has demo'd quite a few speakers and currently has the E55ti's. He's demo'd speakers like Paradigm Studio 100, Theil CS2.4, Salk's, Philharmonics, PSB Synchrony 1, Ascend Sierra Towers w/ RAAL, etc etc. Quite an impressive list! Before he demo'd a lot of these $2,000+ speakers, he picked up the E55ti's and shortly thereafter demo'd the Studio 100's, Triton II's and a couple others. He had this to say in regards to HIS comparison between the e55ti's and the Studio 100's

" In comparison, I would put the Emp Teks just a shade below the Studio 100s - TBH, I would be fine with either speaker. Aesthetically, I like the look of the 100s a tad better. As far as sound, the 100s seem to be more.... forward (?) than my Emp Teks. The best way I can explain it is when I listen to the 100s, I feel like the soundstage is right on top of me - almost pushing at me.However, after listening to the Emp Teks for the past month, I have gained a greater appreciation for a speaker that just "disappears" as this is what the Emp Teks do for me. This is probably the most important factor for my final choice - I want great sound that is just heard and not seen. "



For someone who has heard multiple speakers and has come to find out what sounds right and wrong, that's VERY impressive that he thinks the e55ti's are just a bit shy of the Studio 100's. Of course they would be....THEY SHOULD BE since they're 10x the price, but that's saying something for these towers. With a +/- 2db IN-ROOM response....I don't see why more people aren't jumping on these. I had to wait until a few days after BF to order mine and I was getting scared they'd sell out lol.
post #888 of 3154
Well that only enlarges my expectations, which usually are overinflated anyhow. All they really have to do is beatout the Polk Monitors that I currently have. I know that they aren't going to dig as low as the Polk's, but that's why I have the Outlaw:D
post #889 of 3154
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

So I was browsing HomeTheaterShack forums for EMP reviews, etc...and happened to come across someone (not sure if he posts here too??) that has demo'd quite a few speakers and currently has the E55ti's. He's demo'd speakers like Paradigm Studio 100, Theil CS2.4, Salk's, Philharmonics, PSB Synchrony 1, Ascend Sierra Towers w/ RAAL, etc etc. Quite an impressive list! Before he demo'd a lot of these $2,000+ speakers, he picked up the E55ti's and shortly thereafter demo'd the Studio 100's, Triton II's and a couple others. He had this to say in regards to HIS comparison between the e55ti's and the Studio 100's
" In comparison, I would put the Emp Teks just a shade below the Studio 100s - TBH, I would be fine with either speaker. Aesthetically, I like the look of the 100s a tad better. As far as sound, the 100s seem to be more.... forward (?) than my Emp Teks. The best way I can explain it is when I listen to the 100s, I feel like the soundstage is right on top of me - almost pushing at me.However, after listening to the Emp Teks for the past month, I have gained a greater appreciation for a speaker that just "disappears" as this is what the Emp Teks do for me. This is probably the most important factor for my final choice - I want great sound that is just heard and not seen. "

For someone who has heard multiple speakers and has come to find out what sounds right and wrong, that's VERY impressive that he thinks the e55ti's are just a bit shy of the Studio 100's. Of course they would be....THEY SHOULD BE since they're 10x the price, but that's saying something for these towers. With a +/- 2db IN-ROOM response....I don't see why more people aren't jumping on these. I had to wait until a few days after BF to order mine and I was getting scared they'd sell out lol.

That is great to hear! If they are on schedule they should be shipping on Monday!
post #890 of 3154
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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

Well that only enlarges my expectations, which usually are overinflated anyhow. All they really have to do is beatout the Polk Monitors that I currently have. I know that they aren't going to dig as low as the Polk's, but that's why I have the Outlaw:D

I know it's up to your ears and your ears only to decide....but with the countless reviews stating these are exception for the price, comparing them to speakers 2x+ their price that are also raved about on these forums has to mean something. I would assume (b/c I haven't heard them yet...yet lol) that they would be quite a bit better. I've heard the Monitor line countless times (& the RTi line a few) and if it's not better than those then I'll know and send them back within a few days lol. Their FR is much better than most in this price range and above. All reviews are glowing. Some of these aren't just newcomers to HT either

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Originally Posted by Transmaniacon View Post

That is great to hear! If they are on schedule they should be shipping on Monday!

I KNOW!! Pumped biggrin.gif
post #891 of 3154
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

So I was browsing HomeTheaterShack forums for EMP reviews, etc...and happened to come across someone (not sure if he posts here too??) that has demo'd quite a few speakers and currently has the E55ti's. He's demo'd speakers like Paradigm Studio 100, Theil CS2.4, Salk's, Philharmonics, PSB Synchrony 1, Ascend Sierra Towers w/ RAAL, etc etc. Quite an impressive list! Before he demo'd a lot of these $2,000+ speakers, he picked up the E55ti's and shortly thereafter demo'd the Studio 100's, Triton II's and a couple others. He had this to say in regards to HIS comparison between the e55ti's and the Studio 100's
" In comparison, I would put the Emp Teks just a shade below the Studio 100s - TBH, I would be fine with either speaker. Aesthetically, I like the look of the 100s a tad better. As far as sound, the 100s seem to be more.... forward (?) than my Emp Teks. The best way I can explain it is when I listen to the 100s, I feel like the soundstage is right on top of me - almost pushing at me.However, after listening to the Emp Teks for the past month, I have gained a greater appreciation for a speaker that just "disappears" as this is what the Emp Teks do for me. This is probably the most important factor for my final choice - I want great sound that is just heard and not seen. "

For someone who has heard multiple speakers and has come to find out what sounds right and wrong, that's VERY impressive that he thinks the e55ti's are just a bit shy of the Studio 100's. Of course they would be....THEY SHOULD BE since they're 10x the price, but that's saying something for these towers. With a +/- 2db IN-ROOM response....I don't see why more people aren't jumping on these. I had to wait until a few days after BF to order mine and I was getting scared they'd sell out lol.

that is awesome.
post #892 of 3154
Since EMP Tek hasn't been around that long and they seem like such a good deal, people just write them off and assume they're junk. That's probably why more people don't give them a whirl. However, with the 30 day free return shipping, there's absolutely nothing to lose. That said, I'm currently watching a movie at near reference level and playing on my laptop. These speakers are barely breaking a sweat! I've had mine now since April and I wouldn't trade them. Meanwhile, my Focal 814 towers are sitting in the closet, collecting dust. LOL!
post #893 of 3154
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

Since EMP Tek hasn't been around that long and they seem like such a good deal, people just write them off and assume they're junk. That's probably why more people don't give them a whirl. However, with the 30 day free return shipping, there's absolutely nothing to lose. That said, I'm currently watching a movie at near reference level and playing on my laptop. These speakers are barely breaking a sweat! I've had mine now since April and I wouldn't trade them. Meanwhile, my Focal 814 towers are sitting in the closet, collecting dust. LOL!

So you enjoy the Emp's over the Focals? Interesting, I almost got the Focals over the Emp's.
post #894 of 3154
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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

So you enjoy the Emp's over the Focals? Interesting, I almost got the Focals over the Emp's.

There's nothing wrong with the Focal, however, I find the EMP Tek more pleasing, at least, versus my 814 towers. I found the treble lacking and the bass a little overbearing on my Focal. The bass problem can easily be remedied by setting the speakers to small and using a sub. However, there wasn't much I could manage to do to make the treble sing like I wanted it to. They still sounded good, but it wasn't the kind of sound I was looking for. There's not much I can say to criticize the E55Ti towers or E56Ci center channel.

Now, you could certainly go buy one of Focal's upper-tier models and they'd probably devour the EMP Tek, as they should, for five times the price, but even my 814 towers were $999 each, when I bought them, three years ago. For that price, you'd think they would best some $800 dollar a pair EMP Tek towers. Not so, in my opinion.
post #895 of 3154
Sweet, you guys prematurely keep making me feel better & better about my purchase. Man I hope a week from now I can do my own testing.
post #896 of 3154
I was looking to buy some NHT speakers because of the BF sale but was told to go with Focal over them. Now that I've read all 30 pages of this thread I'm interested in these speakers. I saw the sale on Audioholics for the BF sale, but didn't think about them as a contender (just cause of the price).

How do the E55ti sound when placed close to the wall? In my room they would need to be pretty close, currently my speakers are about 6" from the wall.

I just bought my BIC setup not too long ago. Was going to go with Klipsch but was told that the BIC's would out perform the Klipsch unless I wanted to spend thousands more. I went from Polk Monitor 50's with a CS1 and then upgraded to Monitor 70's with CS2. Still wasn't happy with my setup so thats why I went to a horn loaded tower to try them out. Been through all these setups in less than 2 years. Looking to get a nice HT setup that will last me at least a few years.
post #897 of 3154
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

Since EMP Tek hasn't been around that long and they seem like such a good deal, people just write them off and assume they're junk. That's probably why more people don't give them a whirl. However, with the 30 day free return shipping, there's absolutely nothing to lose. That said, I'm currently watching a movie at near reference level and playing on my laptop. These speakers are barely breaking a sweat! I've had mine now since April and I wouldn't trade them. Meanwhile, my Focal 814 towers are sitting in the closet, collecting dust. LOL!

100% agree with you there. People look at what the speaker MSRP was and then judge. " the Focals are better than the e55ti's because they have a higher MSRP and since they're discounted so much it's a better buy"

. I would venture to say that Focal has a lot more overhead, etc then EMP. I've heard the drivers used in the Chorus line and found them quite harsh. The polyglass line is just meh to me. I've always found their tweeters to be overly bright...like they're almost creating detail instead of staying true to the source. There's 2-3 people over in the Focal thread lately that have said they didn't like the Chorus line b/c of bright/harsh treble. One even said he though they midrange was muddy and the bass was too boomy, but I'm thinking he might have a defective speaker based on some of his comments. Either way, "trickle down tech" from Focal still works from RBH --> EMP. I mean the cabinets are identical, driver config is identical, still an AL based midrange driver, etc. The tweeter in the SX line is a VERY nice Scan. Never had the pleasure of listening to it, but I hear it's beautiful. These e55ti's use a large format tweeter so swapping a tweeter (or playing with various large formats to see what kind of sound you get..better/worse) would be interesting. Hopefully I'll get an RTA soon b/c I'd like to have one for my car also to make minor adjustments
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There's nothing wrong with the Focal, however, I find the EMP Tek more pleasing, at least, versus my 814 towers. I found the treble lacking and the bass a little overbearing on my Focal. The bass problem can easily be remedied by setting the speakers to small and using a sub. However, there wasn't much I could manage to do to make the treble sing like I wanted it to. They still sounded good, but it wasn't the kind of sound I was looking for. There's not much I can say to criticize the E55Ti towers or E56Ci center channel.
Now, you could certainly go buy one of Focal's upper-tier models and they'd probably devour the EMP Tek, as they should, for five times the price, but even my 814 towers were $999 each, when I bought them, three years ago. For that price, you'd think they would best some $800 dollar a pair EMP Tek towers. Not so, in my opinion.

So do you find that the e55ti's have the same detail/resolution as the Focals, but less fatiguing? The midrange has been said by countless people to be spot on so I'm not worried there lol
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

I was looking to buy some NHT speakers because of the BF sale but was told to go with Focal over them. Now that I've read all 30 pages of this thread I'm interested in these speakers. I saw the sale on Audioholics for the BF sale, but didn't think about them as a contender (just cause of the price).
How do the E55ti sound when placed close to the wall? In my room they would need to be pretty close, currently my speakers are about 6" from the wall.
I just bought my BIC setup not too long ago. Was going to go with Klipsch but was told that the BIC's would out perform the Klipsch unless I wanted to spend thousands more. I went from Polk Monitor 50's with a CS1 and then upgraded to Monitor 70's with CS2. Still wasn't happy with my setup so thats why I went to a horn loaded tower to try them out. Been through all these setups in less than 2 years. Looking to get a nice HT setup that will last me at least a few years.

I can tell you soon. I'll have up to about 15"-16" for mine. I'm going to play with various distances from the wall, between the speaker, toe'd in and out, etc. I'll try to take some notes, but my room will vary from anyone else's so there's not too much you can take from it really. I will say I was reading up on a MOD's comments on HomeTheaterShack and he said he likes to EQ up the BSC (baffle step config) by about 1.5db. (i think that's what he said...I'll look back at it) Anyone know what freq this would pertain to? Might need to read up a little more on BSC

He said he was using a large, open room with no walls near the sides of the speakers....exactly like my room, that's why I'm wondering. My room is 22x19 w/ 12' ceilings and open. No walls will be along side of the speakers. His sn over there was GranteedEV..not sure if he's over here too
post #898 of 3154
I personally, didn't find the treble on my Chorus' harsh. I found it lacking, actually. But, obviously, the sound of a speaker will vary depending on it's placement and room acoustics. That said, the EMP Tek just sound more crisp to me. Just all around cleaner, crisper and the sound is more solid, if that makes sense. That's the easiest way to describe it. Like I said, I still liked the Focal, they sounded good. But, not that good when you consider the price tag!
post #899 of 3154
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

100% agree with you there. People look at what the speaker MSRP was and then judge. " the Focals are better than the e55ti's because they have a higher MSRP and since they're discounted so much it's a better buy"
. I would venture to say that Focal has a lot more overhead, etc then EMP. I've heard the drivers used in the Chorus line and found them quite harsh. The polyglass line is just meh to me. I've always found their tweeters to be overly bright...like they're almost creating detail instead of staying true to the source. There's 2-3 people over in the Focal thread lately that have said they didn't like the Chorus line b/c of bright/harsh treble. One even said he though they midrange was muddy and the bass was too boomy, but I'm thinking he might have a defective speaker based on some of his comments. Either way, "trickle down tech" from Focal still works from RBH --> EMP. I mean the cabinets are identical, driver config is identical, still an AL based midrange driver, etc. The tweeter in the SX line is a VERY nice Scan. Never had the pleasure of listening to it, but I hear it's beautiful. These e55ti's use a large format tweeter so swapping a tweeter (or playing with various large formats to see what kind of sound you get..better/worse) would be interesting. Hopefully I'll get an RTA soon b/c I'd like to have one for my car also to make minor adjustments
So do you find that the e55ti's have the same detail/resolution as the Focals, but less fatiguing? The midrange has been said by countless people to be spot on so I'm not worried there lol
I can tell you soon. I'll have up to about 15"-16" for mine. I'm going to play with various distances from the wall, between the speaker, toe'd in and out, etc. I'll try to take some notes, but my room will vary from anyone else's so there's not too much you can take from it really. I will say I was reading up on a MOD's comments on HomeTheaterShack and he said he likes to EQ up the BSC (baffle step config) by about 1.5db. (i think that's what he said...I'll look back at it) Anyone know what freq this would pertain to? Might need to read up a little more on BSC
He said he was using a large, open room with no walls near the sides of the speakers....exactly like my room, that's why I'm wondering. My room is 22x19 w/ 12' ceilings and open. No walls will be along side of the speakers. His sn over there was GranteedEV..not sure if he's over here too

Close to the same size as my room. 20x21 and about 3,000 cubic feet. Let me know what you think. If these can be placed close to the wall without hurting the performance, may just have to pull the trigger.
post #900 of 3154
Bose claims there Acoustimass system can fill that size room!
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