Originally Posted by HowardV
I'll try to clarify with an example. There are sports cars and there are luxury cars. They are made for two different purposes. Is one better than the other? A luxury sedan wouldn't have any problems going around a race track, and a sports car would have no problems going cross country, and you can use it that way if you prefer. But sports cars will do better on the track than sedan's and the sedan will most likely get you cross country with less driver fatigue. You choose which you want to use for your purpose.
That's all fine and good, but if memory serves the SL-1200 was originally designed as a hi-fi turntable. There weren't any DJs to speak of in those days! When DJs started springing up, they found the SL1200 to be a good tool for them, too.
[/quote]Oh, so you're a hi-fi salesman too! Guess we both spent our young days in the same manner. Not sure what you mean by "you got over it".
What I mean is that eventually I had to chose between being a good technican and saying correct technical things about the equipment I sold as a teenage, or being a good salesman and shall we say moderating what I said to push the product.
Long story short I left the business and eventually obtained an engineering degree.
Were you traumatized?
No, but maybe a few of my clients were! ;-)
Did your favorite amp clip one day?
So....engineers have better ears?????
Trained listeners have better ears.
Funny thing is that they were just as easy to sucker as anyone else when it came to audio! One of my favorite courses in college was "Physics and the Sound of Music". It helped me understand how sound waves work, etc. But to say it made me into a better audiophile would be incorrect.
Now you are beginning to sound like me! ;-)
I'm sure I don't have to tell an engineer that there is no specification that describes "quailty sound".
Actually there is, the problem is that it is unachievable at this point in the audio state of the art.
And we won't even get into personal preferences.
It is interesting how personal preferences tend to converge on accuracy.
Actually, I was encouraging everyone to listen for themselves and decide.
Well, listening as done in audio stores is so bogus and generally irrelevant to home listening that I can't really agree with that.
Furthermore, as generally done at home, listening is influenced by so many things other than the inherent sound quality of the equipment that I can't really agree with that, either.
One should NEVER take someone elses word for it.
I don't know about that either. People who actually do the fairest, most sensitive possible listening tests should probably be listened to, given the difficulty of doing good listening tests at home or in a store.
I jumped into this discussion with my experiences and thoughts, but I urge everyone to decide for themselves.
Deciding for themselves is what people do, even if they decide to agree with other people's decisions. Therefore, I say that "I urge everyone to decide for themselves." is a truism, and therefore not all that helpful all by itself.
This is a discussion board...right?
Not sure where I ever said for anyone to believe what I say without questioning it.
Anyways, these discussions are getting way off track and becoming a pissing match instead. I'm not here for that reason.
This board is remarkably free of pissing matches for an audio board. HA is even better.