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post #121 of 322
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Originally Posted by lundman View Post

wifi is just for those people who thinks wifi will work.
1gige is for those who already have gige network, and want to transfer with a little more speed. Streaming makes no difference if its 100/1000.
I believe no PCH does hulu/netflix yet. They are US only subscriptions, and of no interest to the manufactors so far.
Just my opinion, I am not connected to HDi/Syabas.

I take that to mean that if my wireless bridge can provide 100+ speed, then it should be adequate for whatever I might need to stream on a 100 port Dune. Haven't dug into Bluray "quality" streams, yet, but anticipate that it should come. As for NetFlix/Hulu, I understand that PCH has a pc workaround to make them function, so I'm just trying to figure out why a similar workaround couldn't exist for Dune. Truth is ...(collective eye-roll coming)... none of the options seem quite perfect for me. Functional and physical consolidation of BD prime is just about 98% there, though...
One more stupid rookie question... what about using a pc to rip bluray iso (or some other format if necessary) from Dune directly onto my server??? Is that just out of the question??? The Dune would actually be my only bluray drive, if purchased...
Thanks for the advice, everybody...
post #122 of 322
You could certainly make Dune areas with nice icon view etc, that point to URL content elsewhere, like I plan to do for apple trailers. Which could include a PC software side port that translates NetFlix/Hulu to it. So sense, PCH and Dune are the same. The h/w is the same, the RMUA (SDK) is the same (well, not identical). Just the software GUI that differs.

For me, Dune was closest yes, but not 100%. I can just put in DVD and BD retail disks and hit play, that was rather important in the end.

You COULD possible coax Dune into ripping movies for you, if you are really good at what you do. The building blocks are there after all, libraries for AACS, BD+ and BDJ. But to be honest, much easier to just use AnyHD. In theory anyway, nobody has looked at doing that.
post #123 of 322
That's what I love about AVSForum... at any given time, somebody has usually thought more clearly about things than I have. Sorry for the streamer 101 caliber questions. Thanks for your patience. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a PCH. I think I'll cut my teeth on it, and wait until HDI broadens their distributorship and empirical base. Something tells me that I will be able to figure out everything that I would like a BD Prime to do for me by experimenting with the PCH. And when the time comes to pull the trigger on Dune... I'll just put the PCH in the bedroom... and hopefully Dune will be a bit cheaper by then. Will certainly keep following the thread, here.
post #124 of 322
Then, Welcome to the club! I have both, well, 3 SMP8634 players, and one dev-board.
post #125 of 322
i am also interested in a Dune.
I will use it i combination with a NAS, does anybody knows what connection
i should choose, eSATA or the GigaBit Lan version?
post #126 of 322
NAS don't have anything to do with eSATA? gige version has had issues, and personally, I've been just fine with 100Mb. But that's just me.
post #127 of 322
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Originally Posted by lundman View Post

Then, Welcome to the club! I have both, well, 3 SMP8634 players, and one dev-board.

Well.... we'll see how quickly it ships for the $20 charge. It's hard to imagine that I'll be disappointed with the PCH. I frequently find that, in reality, I'm not as hard to impress as I might sometimes like to think. A part of me already wishes I had popped for the Dune.... (gotta love cognitive dissonance!). It's always fun starting a new geek-project. I know my Synology NAS is solid. Hopefully my wireless network is up to snuff. Will try out the wireless adapter that comes with. Hopefully it doesn't suck. It's just hard to ignore the attraction of bluray/all-in-one, though. Alas...maybe next time.
post #128 of 322
makelegs,

Where you ever able to find a Dune for US market?

k
post #129 of 322
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Originally Posted by kupermanp View Post

makelegs,

Where you ever able to find a Dune for US market?

k

duneplayer.com

Although... I admit that I was merely assuming that they had them to ship. As opposed to jvb charging $170 to ship direct from the Netherlands.
post #130 of 322
As far as I know, JVB has a US office as well and should be able to arrange shipping from US location.

About the base... it's a streamer with internal drive, likely sold in EU for about 350 which is not that cheap (us price will usually be the same in dollars or more, like $399)

The concept is a bit conflicting though. The unit is supposed to come with the BD license and will play BD backups from HDD or network source with no problems. You can attach a DVD drive or BD drive over USB and then even play BD and DVD disks but not commercial ones...

To achieve that kind of playback of commercial disks, one has to acquire the add on module holiding a BD Drive and dual HDD. What this will cost is unknown as it is not ready yet however the price of the Base + the module will likely be higher than the BD Center.

Conflicts a bit... If you don't need disk playback, the BASE would be a good option. If you do need disk playback, It feels like a better and more affordable choice to buy the BD Prime directly and expand data storage with NAS or attached HDD via USB.

Modules:
In general we recommend GBIT for the playback of BD and such. Best for network use. eSata is sufficient as well (best performance) but requires local content attached to the player while Wireless is simply insufficient to support all content the unit can handle.
post #131 of 322
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Originally Posted by Hi-Jack View Post

As far as I know, JVB has a US office as well and should be able to arrange shipping from US location.

About the base... it's a streamer with internal drive, likely sold in EU for about 350 which is not that cheap (us price will usually be the same in dollars or more, like $399)

The concept is a bit conflicting though. The unit is supposed to come with the BD license and will play BD backups from HDD or network source with no problems. You can attach a DVD drive or BD drive over USB and then even play BD and DVD disks but not commercial ones...

To achieve that kind of playback of commercial disks, one has to acquire the add on module holiding a BD Drive and dual HDD. What this will cost is unknown as it is not ready yet however the price of the Base + the module will likely be higher than the BD Center.

Conflicts a bit... If you don't need disk playback, the BASE would be a good option. If you do need disk playback, It feels like a better and more affordable choice to buy the BD Prime directly and expand data storage with NAS or attached HDD via USB.

Modules:
In general we recommend GBIT for the playback of BD and such. Best for network use. eSata is sufficient as well (best performance) but requires local content attached to the player while Wireless is simply insufficient to support all content the unit can handle.

It would seem that JVB ships plenty of things from the US, but pretty much all of the HDI stuff on there was said to ship from the Netherlands, and not JUST HDI stuff. Although... I NOW realize that my PCH is likely shipping from China, and God knows when that will arrive, but the charge of $20 from China vs. $170 from Netherlands is not a hard choice.

As far as Prime--->Center--->Base... The Center clearly seems most optimal. As for the notion of wireless being insufficient to stream bluray, I suppose you could just direct transfer a rip from NAS to Center HDD and play locally. Probably wouldn't be that much of a hassle.
post #132 of 322
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Originally Posted by makelegs View Post

duneplayer.com

Although... I admit that I was merely assuming that they had them to ship. As opposed to jvb charging $170 to ship direct from the Netherlands.


Thanks. I'm waiting on support to see if they have them in stock.
post #133 of 322
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Originally Posted by LuncHwagon View Post

Any update on US resellers? Last I heard, we were looking at a March arrival as these units are going to be "mass produced" rather than "batch produced" If anyone knows where one can be purchsed or has a recommendation for the US resellers, I would appreciate it. Thanks

Any update on availability in the US? I'd be particularly interested in the Dune Base version, but I don't see anything at all for sale in the US.
post #134 of 322
No firm arrival date. Duneplayer.com is taking preorders but they had no idea when the player would be comming. I'll still probably order, but I'm not holding my breath

Paul
post #135 of 322
hi,
I've just got my BD Prime 2 days back.
Downloaded the latest firmware from HDI website but when trying to install, it says invalid firmware file, what when wrong?
What are the proper procedure to install firmware?
My current firmware is 081226_1216 (dunno if it's update1 or 2)
I've downloaded the 1216 update2 to test but came with the same message..
The download site says the file size is 49M but my download only show 28MB for the 1216 update 2 & 36.4MB for the latest 0218 firmware, did I miss anything?
post #136 of 322
You have to go back to the firmware version that has 2 files, put both of them on USB, and run/install it.

After that, you can install the latest firmware.
post #137 of 322
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Originally Posted by gizmomaniac1 View Post

Any update on availability in the US? I'd be particularly interested in the Dune Base version, but I don't see anything at all for sale in the US.


According to HDi, the production of 2.0 will be completed at the end of July (around the 25th), so availability will depend on the freight time to the US.
post #138 of 322
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

According to HDi, the production of 2.0 will be completed at the end of July (around the 25th), so availability will depend on the freight time to the US.

Kei,

Will Digital Connection carry the new HDi 2.0 products? I much rather buy from you guys than the other unknown seller on the East Coast (They don't even have a physical address that I know of).
post #139 of 322
Mickey,

Why, yes, we are. It was just added as a pre-order item.
post #140 of 322
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

Mickey,

Why, yes, we are. It was just added as a pre-order item.

Very cool... I see it now. Do you guys charge right away or wait till shipment?
post #141 of 322
No, we do not. We charge only when the item is ready to ship.

We don't plan to carry the Base unless there is enough requests, and there is a limited number coming in the first shipment.
post #142 of 322
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

No, we do not. We charge only when the item is ready to ship.

We don't plan to carry the Base unless there is enough requests, and there is a limited number coming in the first shipment.

Cool. I like that in a retailer.

I am not interested in the Base since I need a BD-Rom drive so I will put my order in for the Prime.

Thanks.
post #143 of 322
i really really wanted one of these last year but i think it has missed its window with the announced july availability of the popcorn hour c-200 using the much more powerful 8643 sigma chip which is designed specifically to support BD
post #144 of 322
Kei, is it possible for Digital Connections to ship to Canada? Is it also possible to use a different delivery service besides UPS? UPS always charges up to $100 USD for items delivered from the US to Canada, even if it costs the shipper much less.

UPS sucks.
post #145 of 322
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Originally Posted by maxleung View Post

Kei, is it possible for Digital Connections to ship to Canada? Is it also possible to use a different delivery service besides UPS? UPS always charges up to $100 USD for items delivered from the US to Canada, even if it costs the shipper much less.

UPS sucks.

Max,

Yes, we do ship to Canada and we are converting most international shipments to US Postal Service, especially if the item fits the Flat Rate that they offer. Unfortunately, I doubt that will be the case with the Prime and their prices go progressively higher and exceed UPS pricing at a certain weight. Right now, I do not yet know the actual weight/dimensions so I am unable to quote the freight cost, but we should be receiving that information soon.
post #146 of 322
Thanks for looking into it Kei!
post #147 of 322
Thread Starter 
cat6man,

Most BD players use 8634 today and not 864X.

The C200 is really a different niche product - it is more for the DIY enthusiasts as it will require you to build your own player by putting in the BD drive yourself. The C200 is still a few weeks away, while the Dune is stabile and now in its second hardware iteration. PH announced they will also have a dedicated BD player, which is much more of an interesting product for the masses, but still no schedule on when it will arrive.

Given Sigma's stability track record, it takes months before they stabilize an SDK for any new chip. Officially, they only recently started shipping 864X SDKs, so if you're willing to wait a few months it will probably be much more stable then (nothing to do with PH).

There are still some bugs in the 8635 (which A110 and TVIX 6500 use) which Sigma is working on, and when was that chip released?

BTW, what specific functionality are you expecting the 864X to have that the 863X doesn't? Both will play blu-ray titles (and stream them over the network)... The only functionality that 864X is supposed to gain is some improved graphics (menus will be displayed faster and smoother) and boot time. PH believes it may be able to run flash (or flash like) menus on the unit itself, but that is quite a few months away still.
post #148 of 322
Greetings, I am one of the owners of DunePlayer.com
We have placed an order with HDI for both the BD Prime 2.0 & HD Base 2.0.
HDI has worked out their availability issues and we will finally be able to offer these new products throughout the USA. We (Power Holdings Inc) will be the main importer and distributor for HDI products in America. DunePlayer.com has been setup to make these players available direct to help get things moving. Our rep has been demonstrating sample units to numerous retail stores. The response has been fantastic! There will be many stores carrying these products in the near future and all the distribution channels are now in place.

Arthur

Power Holdings Inc
post #149 of 322
has the dune solved the problem of wacky skip ahead/skip back behavior that most of us have experienced with other media streamers, such as ziova and dvico units, in the past? at times, skip ahead on certain files would actually take you backwards!

i recently got a sage hd200 and the skip ahead/back works perfectly (which was a revelation), the first time i've personally ever seen this (and i've had 5 different media streamers over the years of the 862x and 863x variety)

can anyone confirm how this behaves on the dune players?
post #150 of 322
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Originally Posted by cat6man View Post

can anyone confirm how this behaves on the dune players?

MPEG2 TS files that have been edited with VideoRedo behave perfectly with the Dune, trick play is dead accurate.
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