The Official Pioneer 9G North American KRP-500M / KRP-600M Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 44  

Pioneer is not going out of business, they only are getting out of making anymore TV's. But they still will be making and selling various home audio products, and also car audio.

That's pretty cool of you man. I know everyone here appr. it very much! Enjoy the new toys.

Speaking of your bedroom setup. I don't know the size tv you had before but I had a 18" and going to a 50 now is like "holy crap". . . We are at least 18 feet from the wall when in bed and it's so nice to be able to read text on the screen now.

jimi

OMG!

thanks. Appreciate the response.

Major props to Elite and D-Nice for posting the settings.... Very Cool.
Want to be sure you know I for one really appreciate your generosity.

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I would act soon to be sure you can get one while they're still available.

elite thanks for posting setting for 600m. the big Q is does it still pay to get my set calibrated, or are the posted settiing just as good.

Does anyone know how does the room light sensor works?

1. Does it affect both the contrast and brightness or just contrast?
2. Does it use your settings as a base to adjust from?
3. If it uses your settings as a starting point does it assume this is the max brightness and lowers when room light level lowers?
4. What range of correction does it make from bright lighted room to total darkness?

Anybody use sensor with pure mode and find it helpful or do you adjust contrast manually at night to lower? I find lowering contrast 2 or 3 clicks helps at night.

Thanks,
Barry

we use to have a 10yr old jvc 27", and I mean just a couple months ago. It was really the wife making the 50" a necessity for the bedroom (keep it clean guys ). I mounted it on the wall and have really been happy with it. it is a little much to be truthful but enjoyed none the less. our bedroom is so dark the 500 just really looks great.

I am not a technical guy but it works the best with the settings posted when it is off I agree with the lowering of contrast at night, you might want to play around with the DRE setting to see if during the day this makes a change for you, it does have an impact on white contrast- though once used is not in the purest of modes.

being a business owner myself it is really difficult when your product/service is not delivered in the manner you would intend. I am confident Pioneer had no intention for these issues to occur, and it is nice to know nobody has not been able to get their TV replaced/fixed which shows Pioneer does want to make it right for the consumer.

I agree I feel no sympathy for Pioneer going out of business... I feel sympathy for those of us who have enjoyed their technology/services and to know there will not be another panel coming soon sickens me. I have purchased/delivered over 45 panels in the last year and not 1 has had issues or return problems to my knowledge. I think recent events are just a blimp in the system.

Thanks for the input Elite, I am still experimenting with my new toy!

Barry

what a difficult question... allow me to answer this by saying why I chose to get a calibration... I had researched the settings for each of the TV's I own (5020/500/600) and I really was pleased with the PQ each provided. I could tell there was a slight difference in PQ from panel to panel and wanted to know if a calibration could rectify. Needless to say it did immediately and with D-Nice taking the time and patience to explain to me the benefit I would say a calibration is well worth the investment.

We tend to look at things from a cost standpoint a lot of times and this is fine, I looked at it as though each of the panels could be calibrated at about 10-15% of their pricing which I was alright with.

Post calibration I can tell you the picture is amazing and the results are well worth the investment for me. The changes D-Nice noticed and implemented were well worth the money invested and I highly recommend calibration services. I hope this helped.

Just make sure whatever setting you decide on, you have to set the input with each individual signal (480p,720p,1080i,1080p). This is sometimes easier done with the PS3 by changing the display settings in the PS3 while adjusting the picture setting on the panel. just fyi.

I also agree with the recommendation that watching the Pure setting for a predetermined time (1-2wks) will change the opinion of most.

Thanks for the info. I do not have PS console. I guess I will adjust each as I use them. Do you know if there is a different memory for each input for example if I have two different sources both sending 1080i to each of the hdmi ports can each have different settings?

Thanks,
Barry

Oh wow, now I know why my settings were not holding, its different for each signal. Maybe its time to RTFM.

yes, as long as they are on independent inputs (1 in HDMI 5 other in HDMI 6), if you are feeding them through 1 input from an AVR than I believe that is not the case.

There is a different memory for each input and in turn each can hold what looks to be 5 independent savings for sources each. hope this helped.

Thanks again Elite.

if you have a cable box you can turn the channel from a non-hd channel (480) to a hd channel (720/1080i) and set them this way. the box should show what feed is being used.

you can then set the bluray with 1080p.

Hey guys, read 98% of this thread last nite, hoping this 600M would be the TV for me in a fairly bright room with a lot of windows.

I know D-Nice recommended that this wouldn't be the TV for this type of environment, but I wanted to ask.....is anyone using this set in a room with a lot of windows? If so, what are your thoughts.

Out RPTV Pio is about to go, I think, and I'm hoping to find a suitable replacement.

Aaron

My 600M is in a room with a number of windows and a windowed door to our back porch. We keep the window shades drawn most of the time, but the light comes through the door (which is opposite the set about 15 feet away).
The set is not exposed to direct sunlight. We get some modest reflections in the day, but we never have any problems with brightness of the image during the day. My kids game on it (ps3) during the day all the time, we watch some sports during the day, and it looks fantastic. Most of our broadcast tv and movie watching is at night. Wholeheartedly endorse getting a 600M -- we all love it.

Hi,

I am about to order KRP-500M but have some concerns about brightness. My current pdp4270, which I plan to replace by 500M, is in 2 story living room which has 2 rows of 4 windows (8 total) on one wall, facing northwest, so I'm getting decent amount of afternoon/evening sun. All windows are on the right hand side wall off the TV. I have shades on the lower row which somewhat could control sunlight and nothing on the upper row of windows.
Can anyone tell me if out of the box 500M will be brighter then 4270? I plan to calibrate new set, but would like to know this new set could provide me with better brightness levels then uncalibrated 4270, which I still could watch during bright sunlight, but it definitely not a pleasure.
From what I read, 500M could achieve up to 42FL post calibration, can you tell me what is the number for 4270 out of the box? or do you guys think I need to go 111 route due to too much uncontrolled light. Based on current pricing it seems like $800 difference between 111 and 500M.

Thank You,

I setup the wall with runs and an outlet when we built our house last year but didn't have the money for a second panel at the time so we too were using a really old set. It was some GE that my wife won when she was in college. It doesn't even have video inputs so this was a GUE jump for us too!

jimi

I did not know that. I knew each HDMI input could have a diff setting but I didn't know each signal into EACH HDMI had it's own settings?

Meaning: HDMI 1 has settings for 480i, 480p, 1080i, 1080p60, and 1080p24?

jimi

This is for D-Nice or Robert (cause hopefully he can do something about it):

Regarding the whole RBG 16 thing with auto not selecting it properly. Can a FW fix correct this? I know Robert is real tight with Pioneer so maybe he relay this to them?

Was just thinking out loud. . .

jimi

Can it be confirmed that the PRO-101 comes broken-in from the factory? Someone made this statement earlier and I'm not sure if it's correct. If so, does this mean no breaking-in is required when the panel is taken out of the box?

Also, can someone confirm that the KRP-500 can or can't have multiple picture settings for one HDMI input, for example, when using a receiver.

Thanks for your help.

Any reports from anyone trying Elite's 600M pure mode settings?

I am using them as we speak. I also now prefer them over the Standard settings that I was using. I have been watching tv most of today, and this tv really does blow me away image wise. The only thing that I am doing different with the settings, is turning my sharpness up. Yes, I know it can introduce noise into the picture, but from where I sit, I really cant see the added noise, and the image does appear sharper and not so soft. Again, I know this is not advised, but I like it alot. Regardless, elite-home/d-nice 600M pure mode settings ROCK! I am officially in love with my Pioneer . I can definitely live with this setup for now, holding off on getting calibration until I know, for a fact, that ISFccc wont be unlocked by someone. I would rather get it calibrated afterwards if it happens. I am so happy right now though, I almost dont care! Peace!

i found when using a pluge test that i needed to backdown the brightness to 0 when putting DRE on low. otherwise looks good.

I am also using elite's settings on my 600m, watched "marley and me" last night on oppo 981 upconverted to 1080p. prior to using elite's settings, I was using hometheatermag's 141 settings, and since Pioneer have that before and after settings when you do color, you can get a slight a-b comparison. and elite's calibrated settings added the natural look, color if you will, versus the 141 settings. I am using a somewhat different settings to watch directv, but I think I will use the pure mode settings of elite's to watch directv as well.

and elite and d nice, thanks again.