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post #301 of 4963
Ordered a 60" from Alex last week. I should have it in the next couple of days...

I've have had several Pio's dating all the way back to 2000. You don't want to know what I paid for my first 50" plasma...

I currently have the 7G elite (1120) and looking forward to the new plasma.

I'm assuming that I should use one of the recommened break in DVDs recommended by DNice.

marty
post #302 of 4963
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Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post

That's great advice but as far as I know, unfortunately no forum sponsors carry the x00M. Isn't that right?

Check with Roman and Alex.
post #303 of 4963
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

Check with Roman and Alex.

Ah ok. I hadn't seen them on their website (or any sponsor's website), so that's what led me to believe none of them had them.
post #304 of 4963
I respect those points, but let me mention a few things in my particular case, and to stop beating around the bush, the seller is Coza Inc.

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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

Please check out your Reseller at Resellerratings.com.

I did check resellerratings which was great on this company. Isnt 10 out of 10 pretty good.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Coza_Inc

They are also authorized Pioneer dealers to boot.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...n+the+Internet

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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

MAKE SURE YOU GET 2-MAN INSIDE DELIVERY - You want to be able to do an inspection with them there.

They may be several questionable resellers offering the KRP-M's using questionable shipping companies or shipping options

Another reason I chose Coza Inc. is this. I called most of the sponsors listed on this site, and the ones that actually sell this model, do NOT have as good of delivery AND inspection period as Coza. Coza provides inside delivery and 24-48hrs for physical damage inspection like most do, but also provides 2 additional weeks for inspection for other things that could be wrong like audio, video, etc...NOBODY else I talked to offered that, but if I missed someone that does, please let me know.

Sorry if I came across badly in my responses, I sincerely am not trying to. I am just stating my opinion, while sitting here sadly
post #305 of 4963
Thread Starter 
That's a good policy, what shipping company was it?

BTW, their Resellerratings are 1 Year+ old (only 11 reports)....

On Pioneer's site is a plus..

What I was really trying to suggest is to make sure you get 2 Man Inside Delivery which costs more but I think is worth it. It's not like these are sitting in Pioneer's warehouses with shattered glass (ok, maybe a couple)..

Trying to find out if shippers are rated... some are better than others..

Let us know how things (and how fast) get handled..
post #306 of 4963
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

That's a good policy, what shipping company was it?

BTW, their Resellerratings are 1 Year+ old (only 11 reports)....

On Pioneer's site is a plus..

What I was really trying to suggest is to make sure you get 2 Man Inside Delivery which costs more but I think is worth it. It's not like these are sitting in Pioneer's warehouses with shattered glass (ok, maybe a couple)..

Trying to find out if shippers are rated... some are better than others..

Let us know how things (and how fast) get handled..

Yeah, they dont have a ton of feedback yet, but hopefully I can add to the positive column on there. Really depends on how they handle this situation. They did a great job on the initial shipment minus the results today, but he wouldnt have known that it was cracked in his defense

The shipping company was www.Pilotair.com , but the extra 2 week policy would be on Coza.

It was only one delivery man, but he was going to cart it in himself. I chose to just help him bring it in instead by carrying, which he was fine with doing. We set it down, popped the top off , flipped the thin white styrofoamy stuff back, and WHAM, 2-3 huge cracks .

It would be nice to get ratings on shippers, but then again, I think if these places that offer free shipping, they probably use a certain shipper to get a good deal, which will not help me in my hunt to get the shipper that I want.

When I spoke with Coza today, he is basically saying that he is stuck in a hard place at the moment. He thinks he has a bad batch right now, so he has two options. 1st option is to keep shipping possibly bad ones and wait for the feedback upon arrival, or 2nd option is to open the boxes before shipment to inspect, but that is supossedly not legal without selling as "not new" and marking the price down. I am waiting to hear what he choses to do within the next day or two.

I'll definitely let everyone know what happens.
post #307 of 4963
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

That's a good policy, what shipping company was it?

BTW, their Resellerratings are 1 Year+ old (only 11 reports)....

On Pioneer's site is a plus..

What I was really trying to suggest is to make sure you get 2 Man Inside Delivery which costs more but I think is worth it. It's not like these are sitting in Pioneer's warehouses with shattered glass (ok, maybe a couple)..

Trying to find out if shippers are rated... some are better than others..

Let us know how things (and how fast) get handled..

For what it's worth, the same shipping company (Pilot) delivered my 6020 and 600M. The 6020 was broken, the 600M wasn't. The distributors for the two orders were different. I ordered the 600M from the same reseller as some others here and mine arrived OK while theirs didn't.

So I don't know. I think it's almost luck of the draw. But yes, you should definitely buy from a reputable reseller and DEFINITELY inspect the screen while the shipper is still in your house. That way, they can take the broken set with them and there's no question about when the damage occurred.

One comment about resellerratings.com: I found it didn't have a lot of useful information about the forum sponsors OR the Pioneer authorized resellers. But they're not the only site that show reseller ratings. I usually search several sites to get feedback on a company before I do business with them.

And ndisgii, you should tell Leo to open a few boxes until he finds a good one, then sell it to you for a discount
post #308 of 4963
Agreed. I really do think its luck of the draw.

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Originally Posted by Roberto View Post

For what it's worth, the same shipping company (Pilot) delivered my 6020 and 600M. The 6020 was broken, the 600M wasn't. The distributors for the two orders were different. I ordered the 600M from the same reseller as some others here and mine arrived OK while theirs didn't.

So I don't know. I think it's almost luck of the draw. But yes, you should definitely buy from a reputable reseller and DEFINITELY inspect the screen while the shipper is still in your house. That way, they can take the broken set with them and there's no question about when the damage occurred.
post #309 of 4963
ndisgii, are they shipping you a new one right away?
post #310 of 4963
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Originally Posted by SoSo View Post

ndisgii, are they shipping you a new one right away?

Like I mentioned above, I think they are trying to decide how to handle this situation. See last paragraph in this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=306

I am actually not sure if they have any more at the moment. He did mention some may be coming in this Friday, but not sure if he has some now. But even if he does, he needs to decide what to do with them based on the options I described in a post above. He should have an answer with a day or two at most. He will be letting me know.

PS - He did also offer me the option for a full refund, which is why I called some other places, but I decided I liked Coza's policies better. Thats why I am sticking with them for now. I believe they will do the right thing. I already have a tv, so the wait isnt quite the big deal it may be to others that may not. We shall see how they handle it from here shortly.
post #311 of 4963
Ordered a 600M today! Hoping to get it late next week.

Now to check out the threads on calibrating and settings. I'm far removed from that topic unfortunately.
post #312 of 4963
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Originally Posted by ndisgii View Post

Agreed. I really do think its luck of the draw.

[Our vendor] called me today and wanted to make sure that I opened the box while the delivery company was still here. They said three 600Ms arrived damaged in the past two days, and because of that, they changed shipping companies last night.

Btw, did yours ship from the warehouse in Wisconsin or New Jersey?
post #313 of 4963
So, did you get a 600 as well, and did it arrive ok? I am not sure where mine came from. Looking at my copy of the refused shipping receipt, it looks like it might have come from Whittier, CA or possibly Hauppauge, NY. Those are the only addresses on the form so I am not sure really.

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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

Coza called me today and wanted to make sure that I opened the box while the delivery company was still here. They said three 600Ms arrived damaged in the past two days, and because of that, they changed shipping companies last night.

Btw, did yours ship from the warehouse in Wisconsin or New Jersey?
post #314 of 4963
Good luck with your shipment. We could definitely use some more positive shipment feedback at this point...lol...

I am also anxious to see what everyone comes up with for calibrations and settings too.

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Originally Posted by ndskurfer View Post

Ordered a 600M today! Hoping to get it late next week.

Now to check out the threads on calibrating and settings. I'm far removed from that topic unfortunately.
post #315 of 4963
My 600M was not due to ship until next Monday, but I just found out that it shipped today (AIT is the shipper, never heard of them). Naturally, I am excited but also concerned given the bad shipping experiences others have had.

Here are my feelings about the sellers. I have been sharing my positive thoughts about my seller through PMs to anyone who has inquired, but not here out of respect to the forum sponsors (although I think my seller may be a former sponsor). I don't think you can really blame the seller for what happens with the shipper. I think it is just too much of a crapshoot and it is out of their hands. Of course, the seller is entirely responsible for ensuring the set gets into your hands in a timely fashion and rectifying any problems that may arise.

FWIW, I bought through Dave at Satellite & Sound. He was the one who first suggested the 600M to me when I was calling about a 6020. He has patiently answered my many questions and been great at communicating with me along the way. I am confident and hopeful that if there is a problem with the set he will make the situation right.

Best of luck to all in getting their sets.
post #316 of 4963
Just called AIT and my set flew into Boston this morning (not sure where it originated but I think it may have been CA). Now I need to call the local agent to find out when they can deliver.
post #317 of 4963
i was told that my 600m will be from hauppauge, ny. i live 5 mins from there lol. i asked monitoroutlet about picking it up at warehouse, but was told its better to have the shipping co bring it in house. because if i go get it i lose the insured shipping and the price is like worked into the shipping. we will see!
post #318 of 4963
Does anyone know if the stand that fits both the PRO151, and 141 Signature series, also fits the 600M? I called Pioneer and got two different answers. What's new!
post #319 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Arnie D View Post

Does anyone know if the stand that fits both the PRO151, and 141 Signature series, also fits the 600M? I called Pioneer and got two different answers. What's new!

For the stand, the KRP-TS01 is designed for both the 141 and 600M. No mention of the 151 stand (part #:AXY1212 and AXY1221) will fit either the 141 or 600M. However, I won't take that risk if I were you. It is unlike the speakers set. Worst case scenario for the speakers is you blow out the amp on the set. But for the stand, it is unthinkable.

Also, the stand is fairly cheap (less than $200) street price.
post #320 of 4963
I had a very hard time finding anyone who actually had the tabletop stand.

Update on my 600M: delivery scheduled for tomorrow morning! I'll follow-up with how things go.
post #321 of 4963
SoSo,

Thanks for the response. Agree completely on the speakers.

It's been confirmed on the 141 owners thread that the 151 stand fits the 141. So logically, the stand should fit on the 600M. However, for a street price less than $200, I might go that way just to be sure.

Where are you seeing that figure? Right now the stand is back ordered everywhere I've checked, or is listed at well over $300.
post #322 of 4963
Based on the manual, it looks like these will accept a 1080p signal over component. That'd be great for my older Xbox 360, which doesn't have HDMI.
post #323 of 4963
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Originally Posted by chrisherbert View Post

Based on the manual, it looks like these will accept a 1080p signal over component. That'd be great for my older Xbox 360, which doesn't have HDMI.

According to the Manual at Page 100, it appears that it will accept 1080p over component.
post #324 of 4963
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Originally Posted by SoSo View Post

According to the Manual at Page 100, it appears that it will accept 1080p over component.

Yes, and also on the VGA port. That's not true of most Pioneers, is it?

1080p over component would allow me to turn off overscan on the 360 without having to use the VGA cables. On my current Pioneer, VGA gives a very crisp and noise-free image but the colors are horrible and the gamma is way too high. I assume that a x00m would be the same way.
post #325 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Arnie D View Post

SoSo,

Thanks for the response. Agree completely on the speakers.

It's been confirmed on the 141 owners thread that the 151 stand fits the 141. So logically, the stand should fit on the 600M. However, for a street price less than $200, I might go that way just to be sure.

Where are you seeing that figure? Right now the stand is back ordered everywhere I've checked, or is listed at well over $300.

I haven't seen the stand for that price either.
post #326 of 4963
The European Pioneer website has a December firmware update for the 500A and 600A monitors. I would assume, but don't know for sure, that the update would work on the North American 500M/600M. I received my 600M last week and think it is an extraordinary bargain, but would like to gain access to the full calibration capabilities of the monitor. What do people think? I am an experience software hacker, but know little about how the internal hardware on these sets is configured.
post #327 of 4963
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Originally Posted by bernito View Post

The European Pioneer website has a December firmware update for the 500A and 600A monitors. I would assume, but don't know for sure, that the update would work on the North American 500M/600M. I received my 600M last week and think it is an extraordinary bargain, but would like to gain access to the full calibration capabilities of the monitor. What do people think? I am an experience software hacker, but know little about how the internal hardware on these sets is configured.

Are you speaking of the ISF modes?

I thought that the 500/600 came with a color management system along with Pure, meaning you wouldn't really have to mess with the service menu/grayscale.
post #328 of 4963
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by hhaller View Post

service menu/grayscale.

I think you meant ISFccc which btw, is not the Service Menu... The ISFccc Interface has benefits over the standard AV Selections...
post #329 of 4963
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

I think you meant ISFccc which btw, is not the Service Menu... The ISFccc Interface has benefits over the standard AV Selections...

I just wasn't sure if he was talking about accessing ISF (which is not possible, apparently) or accessing the SM to calibrate grayscale.
post #330 of 4963
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

I think you meant ISFccc which btw, is not the Service Menu... The ISFccc Interface has benefits over the standard AV Selections...

Turbe, I forgot to ask..what did you mean when you said that "memory can cycle and settings get lost"? (page 1)
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