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Panasonic TH-42PX80U or Samsung PN42A400 (same price)

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 
I can't sleep over this decision. Both have the same price tag and similar features... I would love to hear from owners of either one and if anyone could help me make this decision I would greatly appreciate it.

Btw, sound quality is not a factor in making my decision, and both have plenty of connections. THANKS.
post #2 of 39
I'd say go with the Panasonic. Better black levels.
post #3 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks, but how about other factors such as 'burn-in'. I see they both claim to have some type of anti-burn in technology, but then I see a whole bunch of threads related to fixing the problem or dedicated to preventing it. Is that something I should be worried about?
post #4 of 39
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Originally Posted by Davidf26 View Post

Thanks, but how about other factors such as 'burn-in'. I see they both claim to have some type of anti-burn in technology, but then I see a whole bunch of threads related to fixing the problem or dedicated to preventing it. Is that something I should be worried about?

Burn-in is grossly blown out of proportion. Pannys and sammys have great anti-burn-in tech built into them. If your really worried about it, use a break-in disc for the first 50 hours or so to age the phosphors. I own 2 plasmas. A panny 50" 9uk and a panny 42" 85u. I game heavily on both and have never had anything more than a "ghosting" that lasted more than 5 minutes after the TV was shut off.

Both TV's have a great picture. I would get the panasonic but if you can find the sammy for a lot less, get it.
post #5 of 39
I was faced with the same problem when I was buying my daughter a 50" model for her livingroom. In the end I went with the Panny because it has better Blacks, IR, Sound & most of all better Build Quality, Parts & Service. The Sammy does have better color though.

Also $699 seems high for both of these models because they have been on sale at places for under $600 so I would check around.
post #6 of 39
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Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

...$699 seems high for both of these models because they have been on sale at places for under $600 so I would check around.

Thanks for the comment. I found this price with free shipping included though. I've seen both tv's advertised at lower prices but then with $100+ for shipping, so that added up. I will keep looking around for lower prices though. Thanks again.
post #7 of 39
Also if I'm not mistaken, the Sammy 400 model is a "Black Friday Special" type model that I think is stripped down & missing some inputs & etc compared to the "Regular" Sammy 42" 720p model which is the 450.
post #8 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks for that, I compared those two (the Samsung 400 and 450) a couple of times and couldn't find much difference except about $100 more for the 450. (I mainly look for picture quality comparisons.)
post #9 of 39
i have a samsung but i recommend the panny hands down here. the panny has much less ir than the sammy and better blacks. in the stripped down 400 u won't be able to access certain picture options .
post #10 of 39
The 80U was one of the worst Pannys made. Lots of video noise and artifacts and it's dim. I would look real close because anytime I look at plasmas it's the worst of the bunch
post #11 of 39
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Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

The 80U was one of the worst Pannys made. Lots of video noise and artifacts and it's dim. I would look real close because anytime I look at plasmas it's the worst of the bunch

Interesting.. first anti-Panasonic comment. Out of 93 amazon reviews, however, 73 actual owners of the tv rated it 5 stars and 19 rated 4 stars. That's pretty good, I consider. On newegg, the tv was also rated 5 stars by 28 out of 30 reviewers.
post #12 of 39
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Originally Posted by Davidf26 View Post

Interesting.. first anti-Panasonic comment. Out of 93 amazon reviews, however, 73 actual owners of the tv rated it 5 stars and 19 rated 4 stars. That's pretty good, I consider. On newegg, the tv was also rated 5 stars by 28 out of 30 reviewers.

If you had researched the Owners Thread here for that set you would have seen tons of negative comments about video artifacts and dim picture. It's no secrets that the 80u was Panasonics worst effort in years.
post #13 of 39
When a tv has a pricetag of 700 dollars...LOL the expectations are not that of a set worth 4 times as much, or 8 times as much. For the money...they rock. I want a Px80u, but Panasonic stopped making them, and finding one in stock is getting tuff, and in Canada the prices suck on this unit compared to the US. 720p sets are dissapearing...likely cheaper to make a 1080p panel due to economy of scale.
post #14 of 39
80U's look great. I don't know where this "Dim and grainy" crap is coming from. My 42PX80U has a plenty bright, vibrant pic. As for the processing... what the hell do you expect from a <$1000 plasma? It looks fine to me, and if you're an average viewer it will look fine to you

Go for the Panasonic. Much better than any ****** Samsung with crap SamYoung capacitors that dry out after a few years. Panasonic uses all Nichicon and Rubycon caps, and most of the components in the TV are made in Japan.
post #15 of 39
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Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

The 80U was one of the worst Pannys made. Lots of video noise and artifacts and it's dim. I would look real close because anytime I look at plasmas it's the worst of the bunch

Interesting comments. I looked at the Samsung A400 and 450 next to the Panny's and ended up with the Panny. Very happy with the decision, I've had it for two weeks and am just blown away by the picture. I had my heart set on something with a PC input and gave it up in favor of the reviews and general comments on the 80U here. The only thing that would have made me happier is if I got the 50" instead of the 42", but that was my budget.
post #16 of 39
NEWBEE here, interseting post as I just purchased the Panasonic. I was originally looking at a Toshiba 40", 1080p set for $719. Then decided to look at some less expensive sets, in particular an add caught my eye for a Samsung 40" Plasma at Brands Mart. When I went to the store they were out of the Samsung and Substituted the Panasonic for the same price, I jumped at it and love the set so far.

I am using it with a over the air antenna and my Netflix Roku box, the picture is fantastic and the sound with the built in speakers is excellent.

Great price for a great TV.
post #17 of 39
Heck yeah it is, that's a steal for a solid, not spectacular, 42" plasma.
Heck the equivalent 18 months ago would have cost nearly $1500!

I wish we had costco, compusa, brandsmart, fry's or the like up here.
post #18 of 39
Panny FTW!
post #19 of 39
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Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

If you had researched the Owners Thread here for that set you would have seen tons of negative comments about video artifacts and dim picture. It's no secrets that the 80u was Panasonics worst effort in years.

Are you talking about the PX80? I've never heard it called dim. The noise can be eliminated by using "cinema" mode. Like most Panasonics, video modes other than cinema are pretty noisy.
post #20 of 39
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Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

If you had researched the Owners Thread here for that set you would have seen tons of negative comments about video artifacts and dim picture. It's no secrets that the 80u was Panasonics worst effort in years.

omeletpants is a Samsung fanboy and takes every opportunity he can to bash Panasonic. You can't really take him serious. It's funny, haven't been to the site in a week and he's still going on with his crusade for his lover Samsung. Don't you ever get out man?
post #21 of 39
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

omeletpants is a Samsung fanboy and takes every opportunity he can to bash Panasonic. You can't really take him serious. It's funny, haven't been to the site in a week and he's still going on with his crusade for his lover Samsung. Don't you ever get out man?

Actually, I'm a Kuro and Samsung fanboy. I have owned more Elites than than 99% of the people on this forum. Panasonic did a much better job on the Panasonic 800 series than they did on the 80 series. Don't take my word, just read the many negative comments about the 80 series being to dim and grainy on this forum. Good try at trolling though.
post #22 of 39
i would agree i use cinema mode (even on my LCD set) as all other modes makes picture grainy (it is not on panasonic only, if one increases sharpness picture will be grainy, for HD sources sharpness should be at zero) and skin tones are not natural, i don't know how people use other modes as picture does not look natural.

usually processing is needed for no HD sources, i would like my TV to process less and rely on my source (good BD player or receiver)
post #23 of 39
The px80u is more comparable to the a450, not the 400 which lacks some features. I'm not sure if there is a difference in PQ, but there may be. If it must be the 400, I would go for the px80u, merely because I am not as familiar with this model.

The real comparison is with the more common 450 model. I have seen both the 50px80u and pn50a450 in a home setting and while both are capable of very good image quality from what I have seen, I would personally give a slight edge to the panasonic. Its worth noting that both owners love their sets and say they wouldn't have chosen the other one after seeing each others.

Regarding the comments on the px80u, its a great entry level set and both it and the samsung beat out any other set in its price range by a mile. The best part is its very good blacks and contrast that beat out many more expensive sets. Yes its noise reduction circuits are apparently not the best out there but the benefits of detail-killing noise reduction are dubious at best, and completely useless on high quality sources. Not a deal-breaker by any means.

This is not a general pansonic > samsung comment, this is merely speaking about their 720p models. For the higher end sets (pz series/550/650) I often make a different recommendation as there are clear differences in PQ and they have different strengths and weaknesses which can be matched with what the viewer is looking for.

Regardless, to the OP, you really cant go wrong with either. Read some reviews and check them out in store. Although do remember torched up in-store viewing is a far from accurate representation of picture quality in the home, but at least you can actually see the set.
post #24 of 39
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

omeletpants is a Samsung fanboy and takes every opportunity he can to bash Panasonic. You can't really take him serious. It's funny, haven't been to the site in a week and he's still going on with his crusade for his lover Samsung. Don't you ever get out man?

It's funny how Samsung fans doing what everyone else does for different brands gets disparaged. StinDaWg, how seriously should we take you?
post #25 of 39
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Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

Actually, I'm a Kuro and Samsung fanboy. I have owned more Elites than than 99% of the people on this forum. Panasonic did a much better job on the Panasonic 800 series than they did on the 80 series. Don't take my word, just read the many negative comments about the 80 series being to dim and grainy on this forum. Good try at trolling though.

I have the px80u sitting in my room and it is neither dim nor grainy. Stop spreading lies. Not everyone wants to spend more than a grand on a tv. Congrats on your Elite purchases, I'm sure they've got you far in life. Keep trolling every thread you can while the rest of us enjoy life and our "imperfect" tvs.
post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

I have the px80u sitting in my room and it is neither dim nor grainy. Stop spreading lies. Not everyone wants to spend more than a grand on a tv. Congrats on your Elite purchases, I'm sure they've got you far in life. Keep trolling every thread you can while the rest of us enjoy life and our "imperfect" tvs.


First you accuse me of being a Samsung fanboy, now a Pioneer fanboy. Which is it? I just have no respect for the Panasonic plasmas. Always the worst looking on any showroom floor. If that good enough for you then good luck. But remember I was just giving my opinion then you attacked me. Follow the forum rules and quit ripping other posters and focus on the product discussion.
post #27 of 39
I have an Panny 80U and I can assure you mine is neither dull, nor grainy.

Perhaps omeletpants wears defective glasses when he views Panasonic plasmas; but I believe his comment admiting to a lack of respect for the Panasonic brand speaks directly to his lack of objectivity on the topic.
post #28 of 39
Davidf26 - You can't ask your poll question on this forum and expect to get an accurate answer. Looking at simple thread post counts and variety of threads regarding one brand versus another, it is plainly obvious that the Panasonic would win before you even put up the question. People just like Panasonic around here more. That does not mean that it is the better panel though!
post #29 of 39
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Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

First you accuse me of being a Samsung fanboy, now a Pioneer fanboy. Which is it? I just have no respect for the Panasonic plasmas. Always the worst looking on any showroom floor. If that good enough for you then good luck. But remember I was just giving my opinion then you attacked me. Follow the forum rules and quit ripping other posters and focus on the product discussion.

As I'm sure you know (or maybe you don't), trying to figure out whether a tv is good or not just by looking at it at Best Buy or any other store is not a good idea. The sets are in vivid store demo mode with bright lights shining down on them with the feed split god knows how many times. Unless you have had the Panasonic in your house and adjusted the settings you have no credibility in any of these discussions. I've had both 2008 Samsung and Panasonic models in my home for months so I am qualified to offer my opinion on the subject. My opinion is that the Panasonic is better in every way, especially blacks, speakers, and anti reflective screen. I have also looked at the Panasonic models in Best Buy and by no means did they look dim, grainy, or "worst looking on the showroom floor". You either are blind or you are just trolling for fun.
post #30 of 39
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

As I'm sure you know (or maybe you don't), trying to figure out whether a tv is good or not just by looking at it at Best Buy or any other store is not a good idea. The sets are in vivid store demo mode with bright lights shining down on them with the feed split god knows how many times. Unless you have had the Panasonic in your house and adjusted the settings you have no credibility in any of these discussions. I've had both 2008 Samsung and Panasonic models in my home for months so I am qualified to offer my opinion on the subject. My opinion is that the Panasonic is better in every way, especially blacks, speakers, and anti reflective screen. I have also looked at the Panasonic models in Best Buy and by no means did they look dim, grainy, or "worst looking on the showroom floor". You either are blind or you are just trolling for fun.

I would never have a Panasonic in my home. But if that's good enough for you, then.........
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