Best Room in the House - Page 3

So today they opened up the recessed box for the center channel because it's bigger, did some base molding and started on the door! It's looking great. They hung it with their stereo blasting and closed the door and I couldn't hear anything - I'm really happy about that








And trying out some fabric on the panels. I like the black one best, but I'm gonna keep looking.



Also, got my new JVC today!!

One more update

I bought a Denon 3808 to replace my 2808. Now I can see the volume on screen

Not a lot has happened since the last update since they've been working on other parts of the basement like the bar. But the hidden door is completed, crown added etc. They still have to build the projector shelf a couple small items. Unfortunately, the interior doors for the rest of the basement are delayed and won't be in until mid Feb, so I suspect progress will slow down for a couple weeks I want my house back and get rid of all this dust Oh well.














Oh and I picked out the carpet

I am just thinking about it. We had a delay in the progress because the basement doors are in, so we have a 2 week down time. In this down time, I thought, if I wanted to go this route, I could have them redo the front wall now.

My questions are:

1) What kind of microperf screen would you recommend? stewart, smx? And how much are they (120"-130"), approx?

2) How did you attach the GOM covered panels to the false wall - using clips from the hardware store or something?

3) Would I need a more powerful amp since the speakers are behind the false wall?

Thanks
Shawn

I thought of another option. I could tear out the current screenwall now and finish, double drywall and "deaden" the wall behind the current screenwall. Then still build a false wall with a few studs, but put the speakers on stands behind this false wall (covered in GOM) on the left, right and bottom of the screen.

So basically it would be the same as doing it the perf screen way, but it would have a normal screen instead. This would solve my image loss concerns, but the only problem is the speakers wouldn't be behind the screen - but it also saves money from buying a new perf screen and it would solve the 'speakers in the cavity' problem. I think I would go to 130"-140" diag either way though. What do you guys think?

Well after some thought about it, I'm tearing out the front wall (I should have listened to Big early on )for two/three reasons:

I want or a bigger screen and the current setup limits me at 119".

I want optimal sound and my recessed cavities aren't going to cut it.

I want flexibility to get other speakers and not worry about them fitting.

Basically it's gonna be a false wall with the speakers behind it. I may do an SMX acoustic transparent screen and put the speakers behind that, but if I don't go that route, I'll just put them behind the GOM covered front. Doing a Proline SMX would be about $2k more than a solid screen.

Wow that would be awesome. Although I'm not the handiest guy, is it hard to do and is quality pretty good? I'll check out the DIY forum, thanks.

Thanks for the help!! Surprisingly, my contractor is more than willing to change it and thinks it's a good idea (cause it gives so much flexibility)...and he's not charging any extra for it


Your wife must know my wife because she would say the EXACT same thing to me

I am not gonna go the DIY route, I think I would worry about it too much and after spending as much as I did on the projector, speakers etc, I don't want the screen to be the weakest link.

So Ive narrowed it down to:

137.7" Proline SMX Weave with speakers behind the screen
or
133" Dalite with speakers on sides and bottom center

The SMX is about twice as much, but as I'm typing this I kind of think if I don't get the SMX I'll regret it and end up buying it and the dalite

The only thing about the SMX is Im afraid of screwing up on attaching the material to the frame since it's more complex than the simple snaps of a dalite. I guess if I go the SMX route, I'll figure it out.

I think I'm gonna with SMX

Ok so I made a drawing of the dimensions of the front wall and drew the screen on:



So basically if I go with a 137.7" diag screen it would leave about 20 1/2 inches on the sides of the screen and about 13 1/4 on the top and bottom (although I may hang it higher or lower depending on seating).

I think that seems like a great size screen, but just for kicks, I figured the sizing on the 149" screen and it would leave 15.5" on the sides and 10.5 on the top and bottom. I think size would be great too, but it may be too much of a stretch for my RS10.

Anyway, if I do the 137.7, I'd put the center speaker dead center of the screen and then the left and rights about a foot in towards the center from the edge of each side of the screen or should I put them in the 20.5" of GOM on the sides of the screen? I guess in the screen would be best so they have more room to breathe?

I did think about it and the idea of the wide screen sounds really cool

The only negatives with it for me are: The screen is more $$ (I just emailed smx for a price quote so Ill find out how much more), the lens is definitely more $$ and I wonder if the RS10 can handle that big of a picture (if it was 2:35 movie playing for instance)? If I did get it, I would use the zoom function as spending $3-5k more on a lens is out right now. I've surpassed my budgeted promise to the wife $10k ago Would using the zoom show the black bars on the GOM fabric panels (when it bleeds over the screen height on 2:35 movies)?

What size screens do you two have? You both have the panny right?

ps jamis - the index really helps

I see you have a 140 diagonal. I can't remember, but I think the panny is even brighter than the rs10?

One more question about making the back wall (behind the false wall) dead. I cannot find linacoustic anywhere, tomorrow I'm gonna try some commercial hvac wholesalers to see if they carry it. If they don't I'll just have to use the 4" mineral fiber sheets by JM. They'll be more expensive, but I guess they may be even better than linacoustic? I could also cut in half and make em 2" thick. The only problem is they are yellow, so I'd have to cover them with a cheap black fabric. Argh! Did everyone here use linacoustic?

I got the price back, the scope is 18% more expensive than the 137.7diag 16:9. If it helps, I watch a lot of tv, (shows like CSI, House, 24, The Unit, etc) and I also watch a lot of movies. I work from home and often will work in the movie theater with a laptop and tv on. So given a ratio of say 50/50 tv to movies what screen would you recommend? The scope screen I guess I would need curtains or something on the sides that can be used as a masking system when watching 16:9.

Thanks - do you have a lens or do you zoom? I would use the zoom method and curtains for masking until I was willing to pony up the extra $$ for those two. Do you just watch 16:9 with no masking in place then? How does it look?


Thanks


Yeah I found that yesterday and am gonna call some local ones today. I called one yesterday that was listed under commercial suppliers (not neccessarily hvac) and asked them about it and they said linawhat?

So I measured the 150" wide 2:35 scope screen and it would leave 5" inches on the sides and 15" on top and bottom. The whole wall would be a biiiig screen

It's 16:9 image would be almost the same size as the 120" 16:9 screen.

Haha, yeah it sure sounds nice and it would definitely never leave me wanting for a bigger screen

I'm afraid if I don't get the scope now that I'm going to want to down the road and have to replace the screen again.

On the other hand, Im afraid if I buy the scope I'll end up buying a masking system and ana lens I'll just have to promise myself to use the zoom method for as long as I can

I found Linacoustic! Thanks Big. Prices I got are:

1 x 47 x 100 - $195.00

1 x 59 x 100 - $244.50

Is just one layer (1") enough for the back wall?

Thanks Sean.

Ok several updates - I bought the SMX 2:35 150" wide Proline CineWeave!! It's gonna be awesome It was a little more than I wanted to spend, but I figured it was a smart move because it allows me the most flexibility in the future, ie if I ever wanted to go 2:35 and I only had a 16:9, I'd have to buy yet another screen.

And If I set this up and for whatever reason don't like the 2:35 zoomed, I can always just leave it masked all the time as a 16:9 and it would be the same as a 16:9 screen with the advantage of looking much cooler when the projector is off So thank you to all that helped me go with the scope!! I'm already glad I did

And today I bought a roll of linacoustic! I had to drive like 1 1/2 hours there and back, but I think it'll be worth it.

They also tore down my old front wall, kind of sad actually, but I think the end product is going to be so much better!! Tomorrow is framing, wiring, and insulating the new back and side dead walls, then drywall!

A couple questions though - is there anything I need to do special on this back wall? I wanna do it right the first time (actually the second but who's counting).

And second, that false wall that is there now is actually from the old front wall. So we might just keep that one there and remove a few of the vertical 2x4's. My question is, that space behind the false wall is 27" from the back of the 2x4 to the front of the concrete. So once the back wall is framed it will be about a 23" space, or 27" if you count to the back side of the screen. Is that enough dead space?