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post #1 of 42
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Hi:

I'm thinking of getting the SVS SCS-01 or SBS-01 Speaker Set for my new home theatre, but I don't know if they are a good choice for playing classical music ( I have a large collection of classical music particularly for the piano ) though I will be using the system for a lot of other kinds of music as well as dvds. I appreciate feedback on this. My budget is about 2K for the speakers.

Thanks,
Jhonn
post #2 of 42
For 2k you can get alot of speaker - are you limited by size. I replaced an sbs system with av123's mini strata and it was miles better, 3 way design with powered woofer just moved more air and sounds cleaner. I havent heard the upgraded svs system though.

Greg
post #3 of 42
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Originally Posted by JhonNYC View Post

Hi:

I'm thinking of getting the SVS SCS-01 or SBS-01 Speaker Set for my new home theatre, but I don't know if they are a good choice for playing classical music ( I have a large collection of classical music particularly for the piano ) though I will be using the system for a lot of other kinds of music as well as dvds. I appreciate feedback on this. My budget is about 2K for the speakers.

Thanks,
Jhonn

With $2k you must be thinking of a 2.0 or 2.1 set with classical music?

EDIT: I read "theater" at the first of your post. So, you're looking for 5.1 or 7.1?
post #4 of 42
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Greg:

Thanks for the feedback. My living room is about 13 x 15. The thing is, I'm new at choosing speakers and with so many options, it gets a little bit overwhelming. I'm looking for the best set at my budget that is decent with classical music as well as other types of music.

Jhon
post #5 of 42
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

With $2k you must be thinking of a 2.0 or 2.1 set with classical music?

EDIT: I read "theater" at the first of your post. So, you're looking for 5.1 or 7.1?

I'm not sure that I follow your comment. What do u mean?

Jhon
post #6 of 42
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Originally Posted by JhonNYC View Post

I'm not sure that I follow your comment. What do u mean?

Jhon

You have a "theater" that you also want to enjoy classical music in. So, do you need just 2 surround speakers, or are you wanting 4 surround speakers?

I have a friend with SCS across the front (L/C/R) and SBS surrounds. He also has dual PB12 NSD subs. Very impressive sound for the price.

SVS is having a sale at the moment, as you may know...
post #7 of 42
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Originally Posted by JhonNYC View Post

I'm not sure that I follow your comment. What do u mean?

Jhon

The receiver I'm getting is Denon AVR 3808CI which has capacity for 7.1 thougth to be honest, I'm not really sure if I will benefit from a 7.1 vs a 5.1. Please advice.

Thanks,
Jhon
post #8 of 42
With your room size I wouldn't do 7.1--it will be pretty "messy" in there with surrounds and rear-surrounds as well.

What kind of seating are you planning on? Will you have two rows deep, or just one main row?
post #9 of 42
Let's step back a minute. Your primary listening for this system will be 2 channel stereo of classical recordings...Is that correct?
post #10 of 42
If 2ch. music is REALLY more important, I would look at the MTS, even if it means having to temporarily do a 3.0 and put off the sub and rear channels, for later. The MTS's are capable of reaching down to 30hz, making them more than adequate for use as a full range, stand alone's for music. The MTS are very musical and the aren't too shabby with HT either. But if you gotta have it all now, I personally would choose the SCS over the SBS.
post #11 of 42
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Originally Posted by bearchan View Post

If 2ch. music is REALLY more important, I would look at the MTS, even if it means having to temporarily do a 3.0 and put off the sub and rear channels, for later. The MTS's are capable of reaching down to 30hz, making them more than adequate for use as a full range, stand alone's for music. The MTS are very musical and the aren't too shabby with HT either. But if you gotta have it all now, I personally would choose the SCS over the SBS.

+1. Great point about going 3.0 for his budget in the short-term--it will definitely give him greater overall performance

I have heard both the SCS and MTS in my room and they are both great performers, albeit the MTS can handle loads of power without breaking a sweat.

The MTS with their new x-overs are really sounding wonderful and compare very nicely with my reference set that cost considerably more $$!
post #12 of 42
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

You have a "theater" that you also want to enjoy classical music in. So, do you need just 2 surround speakers, or are you wanting 4 surround speakers?

I have a friend with SCS across the front (L/C/R) and SBS surrounds. He also has dual PB12 NSD subs. Very impressive sound for the price.

SVS is having a sale at the moment, as you may know...

I was thinking of having 4 surround speakers since I will also have my Computer desk next to the Living Room and that configuration may add nicely to the rest of the room. The actual room size is about 13 x 18, but I'm reserving a side of it for my computer area.

I'm aware of the SVS sale.

Thanks,
Jhon
post #13 of 42
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Originally Posted by mayhem13 View Post

Let's step back a minute. Your primary listening for this system will be 2 channel stereo of classical recordings...Is that correct?

That's correct, if I have to choose between music quality and home theatre experience, I would choose the music quality though I would love to get the first without getting a crappy home theatre experience either.
post #14 of 42
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

With your room size I wouldn't do 7.1--it will be pretty "messy" in there with surrounds and rear-surrounds as well.

What kind of seating are you planning on? Will you have two rows deep, or just one main row?

At my room size, I think I can only have one row. Though for classical listening I will probably move my easy chair around to find the best spot.

As for power use, I live in an apartment building so I will not be able to play the speakers at their most power ( I will probably adjust the power according to the kind of music being played ).
post #15 of 42
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

You have a "theater" that you also want to enjoy classical music in. So, do you need just 2 surround speakers, or are you wanting 4 surround speakers?

I have a friend with SCS across the front (L/C/R) and SBS surrounds. He also has dual PB12 NSD subs. Very impressive sound for the price.

SVS is having a sale at the moment, as you may know...

Forgive my naivety, but I thought I only needed on subwoofer, why do I need two?
post #16 of 42
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Originally Posted by bearchan View Post

If 2ch. music is REALLY more important, I would look at the MTS, even if it means having to temporarily do a 3.0 and put off the sub and rear channels, for later. The MTS's are capable of reaching down to 30hz, making them more than adequate for use as a full range, stand alone's for music. The MTS are very musical and the aren't too shabby with HT either. But if you gotta have it all now, I personally would choose the SCS over the SBS.

That's interesting, SCS are cheaper than SBS. Hmm
post #17 of 42
Thread Starter 
To complicate things a little bit more, I'm also thinking of getting a Turntable to transfer my LP collection to digital media and perhaps a tapedeck or tapedeck service provider to transfer by tape collection to digital media since these collections are not available in any other media. Also, since my Living Room and bedroom are back to back, I was thinking of wiring through the same wall that is going to hold both tv in both rooms. I hope this post doesn't create some havoc. I will also welcome recommendations on Turntables and a tape to CD/DVD conversion service provider for my golden collections

Thanks a lot again,
Jhon
post #18 of 42
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

I have a friend with SCS across the front (L/C/R) and SBS surrounds. He also has dual PB12 NSD subs. Very impressive sound for the price.

SVS is having a sale at the moment, as you may know...

Sorry, maybe bit of a threadjack, but I'm looking at picking up a used SBS 5.1 system with a PB12-NSd Sub for $650. Can you tell me about the SVS sale? I'm not seeing it. Don't wanna get ripped off, but it seems that a used $650 SBS system is a pretty good deal for price/performance (PB12-NSD sells for $599 per website).
post #19 of 42
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Originally Posted by JhonNYC View Post

That's interesting, SCS are cheaper than SBS. Hmm

That doesn't make sense--I think what you might be comparing is a single SCS-01 to a pair of SBS-01s.

In any case, if you're concerned about music performance, then I would suggest going with three SCS-01s at the front.
post #20 of 42
FWIW, I do have 03 SCS-01 across the front and I do listen to a lot of classical music (as well as jazz, rock, etc...) and to my ears they sound pretty darn awesome! Highly recommended in my book

Good luck on your quest!

Regards, Chuck
post #21 of 42
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Originally Posted by CheeseMoney View Post

Sorry, maybe bit of a threadjack, but I'm looking at picking up a used SBS 5.1 system with a PB12-NSd Sub for $650. Can you tell me about the SVS sale? I'm not seeing it. Don't wanna get ripped off, but it seems that a used $650 SBS system is a pretty good deal for price/performance (PB12-NSD sells for $599 per website).

Check out their website or give them a call:

http://www.svsound.com/products-sys.cfm

Jhon
post #22 of 42
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Originally Posted by Avliner View Post

FWIW, I do have 03 SCS-01 across the front and I do listen to a lot of classical music (as well as jazz, rock, etc...) and to my ears they sound pretty darn awesome! Highly recommended in my book

Good luck on your quest!

Regards, Chuck

Hey guys:

Thanks for all the good feedback, I think I will go with the SCS-01. They do have a system deal for $875 plus the subwoofer $700. Sounds like a pretty good deal.

Jhon
post #23 of 42
Let me suggest something radical: Go to some stores with your own CDs and listen to speakers in your price range. Only by hearing them can you make a decision that will suit you. I must admit I have not heard any of the ID speakers being discussed but I have heard many, many others and the subjective differences are substantial. No one else's opinion matter but yours.

BTW, since you live in NYC, there's no shortage of places to do this.
post #24 of 42
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Let me suggest something radical: Go to some stores with your own CDs and listen to speakers in your price range. Only by hearing them can you make a decision that will suit you. I must admit I have not heard any of the ID speakers being discussed but I have heard many, many others and the subjective differences are substantial. No one else's opinion matter but yours.

BTW, since you live in NYC, there's no shortage of places to do this.

Kal:

Thanks for the suggestion. That was going to be my approach, but with so many choices available: I did go to some BB stores and listened so some of them ( without my CDs though ) and had difficulty deciding on a specific brand, that's why I wanted to get some feedback from people who know more than I ( hoping to trust their judgement ). I don't think I will be able to listen to the SVS systems though, it seems they are only available online.

Thanks again,
Jhon
post #25 of 42
The biggest disadvantage of buying speakers from SVS (or any Internet Only) company often winds up being a strength. You have to get them into the room in which you will use them in order to determine if they are right for you. In that sense, you are forced to do an audition in the correct setting.

Most reputable Internet Only companies (and SVS is certainly one of those) recognize this and allow for a reasonable return policy. If you can deal with the packing and unpacking, give them a try (along with listening to as many locally available brands as you can find).
post #26 of 42
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Originally Posted by petergaryr View Post

the biggest disadvantage of buying speakers from svs (or any internet only) company often winds up being a strength. You have to get them into the room in which you will use them in order to determine if they are right for you. In that sense, you are forced to do an audition in the correct setting.

Most reputable internet only companies (and svs is certainly one of those) recognize this and allow for a reasonable return policy. If you can deal with the packing and unpacking, give them a try (along with listening to as many locally available brands as you can find).

+1.
post #27 of 42
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Originally Posted by JhonNYC View Post

Hey guys:

Thanks for all the good feedback, I think I will go with the SCS-01. They do have a system deal for $875 plus the subwoofer $700. Sounds like a pretty good deal.

Jhon

Good for you--let us know what you think!
post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by JhonNYC View Post

Kal:

Thanks for the suggestion. That was going to be my approach, but with so many choices available: I did go to some BB stores and listened so some of them ( without my CDs though ) and had difficulty deciding on a specific brand, that's why I wanted to get some feedback from people who know more than I ( hoping to trust their judgement ). I don't think I will be able to listen to the SVS systems though, it seems they are only available online.

Thanks again,
Jhon

Don't go to BB (or CC). They have little in the way of decent-sounding speakers and less in the way of knowledge/guidance. Go to real audio/video shops. Where are you located? There are at least a half dozen in Manhattan. After you have done this, assuming you have not found something that you love, you will have educated your ears enough to fairly evaluate the ID speakers, like SVS, when you get them in your room.
post #29 of 42
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Originally Posted by petergaryr View Post

The biggest disadvantage of buying speakers from SVS (or any Internet Only) company often winds up being a strength. You have to get them into the room in which you will use them in order to determine if they are right for you. In that sense, you are forced to do an audition in the correct setting.

Most reputable Internet Only companies (and SVS is certainly one of those) recognize this and allow for a reasonable return policy. If you can deal with the packing and unpacking, give them a try (along with listening to as many locally available brands as you can find).

All true but, if the OP has not heard other things in other settings, he has no reference for what he gets. How will he know if they are as good or better than the competition unless he buys several?
post #30 of 42
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

All true but, if the OP has not heard other things in other settings, he has no reference for what he gets. How will he know if they are as good or better than the competition unless he buys several?

It is the "other settings" that are the problem for me. They certainly have their place to get a general idea of the look, feel, build quality and initial sonic characteristics.

Unless I have the speakers connected to the electronics I will be using, sitting in their intended room and playing my favorite source material for a day or two (longer if possible), I really can't judge whether they are the right choice for me.

Case in point: a few years ago I bought a pair of B&W CM7s. I connected them to a Denon/Crown pre/pro/amp combo in the living room and they were downright awful. Even after several days of "getting used" to their sound, they just weren't making it for me.

I moved them into the bedroom and connected them to an all Rotel system: preamp/amp/CD. Totally different experience. They have been in there ever since as part of a music only system.

As a side note, after several months in the bedroom I moved them back out into the living room one day as an experiment. Same results as I experienced initially. They went back into the bedroom very quickly.

I'm of the belief that you can't just plop a set of speakers in a room, maybe where they look good, and expect satisfactory results. Sometimes moving them closer or away from a wall, re-arranging the furniture, adding sound treatment, and/or changing the connected equipment can make a tremendous difference in the sound.
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