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post #31 of 362
1/5/09 at 11:22pm
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

You can change the overscan amount, why would you need to change the aspect ratio of a 16:9 HD source? Cable boxes will do this anyways if you really feel the need to mutilate the picture.

Sometimes 16:9 shows are shown inside a 4:3 pillarboxed 16:9 signal, meaning that it takes up a very small portion of the screen. A zoom function would fix that.

The zoom mode on my current Pioneer is totally useless, and I don't really miss it that much.
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post #32 of 362
1/6/09 at 1:33am
Does anyone know of a way to have specific IR commands for each HDMI input? They were half right by making input-specific buttons for all other inputs, but only one HDMI button. I'll return this set before I put up with another TV that forces me to use "InputNext" commands.

How do you guys set up your Logitech or other advanced universal remotes with this TV?
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post #33 of 362
1/6/09 at 4:58am
Still want to know if this Vizio can do 1080p/24 properly as the REON chip suggests.

nice silky smooth pans or judder city?

I already know it judders with SD pans.
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post #34 of 362
1/6/09 at 8:54am
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Originally Posted by Telexen View Post

Does anyone know of a way to have specific IR commands for each HDMI input? They were half right by making input-specific buttons for all other inputs, but only one HDMI button. I'll return this set before I put up with another TV that forces me to use "InputNext" commands.

How do you guys set up your Logitech or other advanced universal remotes with this TV?

My current Samsung LCD only has a single source button to cycle through all the inputs. With my 880 I was able to single out individual HDMI ports so I wouldn't worry about it at all.
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post #35 of 362
1/6/09 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by chrisherbert View Post

You have/had an 1150, right? Do you think this will be a giant step down from that, as far as black levels? i think the 1150's black levels are fantastic but the picture is so horribly noisy that I'm seriously thinking about replacing it.

If it matches the 08 panny's then no it isn't a huge step down.
I am pleasantly pleased with the panny's black level and brightness.
In my opinion I would keep the 1150 as I think that is an awesome set, but you could go 1080p which would be nice.
Your contrast will be cut in half or more though.

I personally would not trade an 1150 for one, in fact if I were you I wouldn't trade it for anything short of a Panny 850 or Pio 5020.(I dislike the 800)

I'll ship you my week old 50pz80u for your 1150.
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post #36 of 362
1/6/09 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by Telexen View Post

Does anyone know of a way to have specific IR commands for each HDMI input? They were half right by making input-specific buttons for all other inputs, but only one HDMI button. I'll return this set before I put up with another TV that forces me to use "InputNext" commands.

How do you guys set up your Logitech or other advanced universal remotes with this TV?

The HDMI button on the remote cycles through all the HDMI inputs i.e. hit it once for HDMI1, again for HDMI2 amd so forth.
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post #37 of 362
1/6/09 at 9:52am
bowsd....did you grab one of these?
You have owned a Kuro or currently own one, correct?
What are your impressions?
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post #38 of 362
1/6/09 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

If it matches the 08 panny's then no it isn't a huge step down.
I am pleasantly pleased with the panny's black level and brightness.
In my opinion I would keep the 1150 as I think that is an awesome set, but you could go 1080p which would be nice.
Your contrast will be cut in half or more though.

I personally would not trade an 1150 for one, in fact if I were you I wouldn't trade it for anything short of a Panny 850 or Pio 5020.(I dislike the 800)

I'll ship you my week old 50pz80u for your 1150.

The noise on the 1150 is so bad that I'm thinking of getting rid of it. I've been watching my friend's POS LG 50PG20 and it actually looks better than the 1150 most of the time, just because it's silky smooth. The black levels are terrible and the colors definitely don't "pop" the same way, but there's no visible noise.
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post #39 of 362
1/6/09 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

bowsd....did you grab one of these?
You have owned a Kuro or currently own one, correct?
What are your impressions?


No, I don't have one nor have I owned a Kuro, if I win the lottery maybe
But if he was referring to the new Vizio, then the HDMI button comes from my experience with the Vizio and from checking it out in the store.

My impressions is it is a very nice, sharp looking picture. It holds it's own without a doubt.
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post #40 of 362
1/6/09 at 12:17pm
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Just wanted to chime in on some questions that were asked.

1) Yes it comes with the stand on, they did an exceptional job of packaging it.

2) Greens? Well I just don't see the problem here. NFL football looks awesome...the grass and the Eagles uniforms were unlike I've ever seen before. In fact up until last night I thought those Buckeye stickers on the helmets were Blue....they're Green! We watched Madagascar yesterday afternoon and the scenes of the jungle were stunning....I'm thinking of getting Blue Planet on Blu-ray just for the heck of it.

3) Pics - Sorry gang I've tried everything to get something worth posting. My POS 3 megapixel camera just isn't doing the picture justice.

4) Some are concerned about China's ability to produce decent equipment/electronic devices.....what about all the Apple stuff out there?

On a side note....in case those wondered about the heat it produces. I've measured mine at 90 degrees at the top of the panel (note: settings out of the box). No biggie for me, I live in the desert anyway...A/C is on from May until September
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post #41 of 362
1/6/09 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by RAYDAHS View Post

Just wanted to chime in on some questions that were asked.

4) Some are concerned about China's ability to produce decent equipment/electronic devices.....what about all the Apple stuff out there?

Best Buy is selling refurbed iPhones if you're interested.

Hey, when you make a lot of stuff for cheap there's going to be bad apples.... but the question is how many bad apples is normal? Also there's a lot of things that originate from China that most people don't know about.... case in point Asorbic Acid... China has a 70 to 80% lockdown on that market.... but you'd never know that reading any food labels.

Heck our own military is concerned enough about poor QA and kill switches for computer tech coming from China that DARPA is looking into how to find them if the exist post-fabrication.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say the sky is falling. There's a lot of stuff out there made in China. For some people QA may be a concern. For others it's not a big deal. Heck made in Japan was considered a POS back in the 50s to 70s.

Just buy the TV at Costco with a Costco Am Ex and your TV will be warrantied for 3 years.
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post #42 of 362
1/6/09 at 12:58pm
FORUM, how about 24p!?!?!?

This is the pretty much the only thing stopping me from purchasing.

I can live with the value name due to it being cheaper and having decent innards.

I can live with it having slight false contour problems (after all it is a cheap TV)

I can live with the neon green.

But I need 1080p/24 smooth playback!!!!!!..otherwise no go!!
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post #43 of 362
1/6/09 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by Yahwey View Post

FORUM, how about 24p!?!?!?

This is the pretty much the only thing stopping me from purchasing.

I can live with the value name due to it being cheaper and having decent innards.

I can live with it having slight false contour problems (after all it is a cheap TV)

I can live with the neon green.

But I need 1080p/24 smooth playback!!!!!!..otherwise no go!!

If you don't buy this model, what model were you considering as a minimum that you know for sure does good 1080p/24 playback?

http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldi...tv/index5.html
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post #44 of 362
1/6/09 at 1:25pm
Can anyone confirm that it's NOT possible to watch this Vizio without the emblem lit up and glowing? Yes - I am that picky and if it's anything like the Sony LCDs emblem it bothers me
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post #45 of 362
1/6/09 at 1:31pm
It converts it to 60hz. Sorry.

http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldi...tv/index5.html
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post #46 of 362
1/6/09 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by r1dude57 View Post

It converts it to 60hz. Sorry.

http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldi...tv/index5.html

I don't really get what that means. So its normally 60hz but then if you put on a 24p source it takes that and converts it to 60hz?

So basically its just doing a 2:3 pulldown? Is that different from any other plasma? Just wondering.
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post #47 of 362
1/6/09 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by septim View Post

I don't really get what that means. So its normally 60hz but then if you put on a 24p source it takes that and converts it to 60hz?

So basically its just doing a 2:3 pulldown? Is that different from any other plasma? Just wondering.

Yes. It's not different than any other plasma, except that it can do the 24 to 60hz conversion. Many only accept a 60hz signal to begin with. In reality I don't think there's any real benefit to accepting a 24hz signal if you are just going to convert it to 60hz, as the source device (PS3, dedicated blu ray player, whatever) can do that just as well as the TV.

But the idea that real 24p playback (at 48 or 72) is more important than false contouring or color inaccuracies ("neon greens") is...nuts. Those are both way, way bigger issues.
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post #48 of 362
1/6/09 at 2:18pm
I had a problem with this at first but really you can't notice it when you're actually watching tv. I'd try calling Vizio, maybe they have a solution to it.
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post #49 of 362
1/6/09 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

The HDMI button on the remote cycles through all the HDMI inputs i.e. hit it once for HDMI1, again for HDMI2 amd so forth.

No kidding. This is exactly what I DO NOT want to do. It's too easy to lose an input in the mix. My last TV had like 8 inputs between HDMI and TV...it took over 10 seconds to change between them. Everyone who used that TV/remote complained about it not working. What in the world would possess them to think it's OK to go the distance and do the other inputs right, but not the HDMI?

If anyone happens to have the codes so I can program them in manually to the Logitech for specific HDMI inputs I would really appreciate it.
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post #50 of 362
1/6/09 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by chrisherbert View Post

Yes. It's not different than any other plasma, except that it can do the 24 to 60hz conversion. Many only accept a 60hz signal to begin with. In reality I don't think there's any real benefit to accepting a 24hz signal if you are just going to convert it to 60hz, as the source device (PS3, dedicated blu ray player, whatever) can do that just as well as the TV.

But the idea that real 24p playback (at 48 or 72) is more important than false contouring or color inaccuracies ("neon greens") is...nuts. Those are both way, way bigger issues.

yeh yeh.. thanks...anybody notice the false contouring in their favorite movies?
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post #51 of 362
1/6/09 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by Telexen View Post

No kidding. This is exactly what I DO NOT want to do. It's too easy to lose an input in the mix. My last TV had like 8 inputs between HDMI and TV...it took over 10 seconds to change between them. Everyone who used that TV/remote complained about it not working. What in the world would possess them to think it's OK to go the distance and do the other inputs right, but not the HDMI?

If anyone happens to have the codes so I can program them in manually to the Logitech for specific HDMI inputs I would really appreciate it.

Huh? It's really not that complicated, If you are in HDMI 1 and hit the HDMI key you will go HDMI2, its HDMI inputs only, you don't have to cycle through the TV or any other imputs and you won't lose inputs, unless you some sort of physco button pusher, otherwise you are really worrying about nothing.
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post #52 of 362
1/6/09 at 7:47pm
When I programmed my Samsung LCD which only has a single input select button my Harmony listed separate buttons for every single input so I don't know what you're worrying about.
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post #53 of 362
1/6/09 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

Huh? It's really not that complicated, If you are in HDMI 1 and hit the HDMI key you will go HDMI2, its HDMI inputs only, you don't have to cycle through the TV or any other imputs and you won't lose inputs, unless you some sort of physco button pusher, otherwise you are really worrying about nothing.

This is using a remote to do it for me. You've got to understand how annoying it is to have people complain about a remote 'not working right' when they only have to push one button to turn devices on and set them to the correct inputs - just because they set the remote down with something blocking it's sight so it ends up on some random input. I'm the only one who can figure out how to get it back to where it's supposed to be.

Further more, were it not for the fact that the Harmony remotes remember the input they're on, it would be impossible to get to any certain HDMI input consistently because it starts where it stopped. Have to change your batteries? You're screwed.

It's just poor design. They could make specific IR commands for all other inputs, they should have gone all the way. I'm sticking with connecting all HDMI devices to my HDMI switch to avoid the mess. That way HDMI 1 is the only HDMI input it should ever be on.
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post #54 of 362
1/6/09 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by StuckAtZero View Post

Best Buy is selling refurbed iPhones if you're interested.

AT&T had them cheaper on their website last week....

Chris
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post #55 of 362
1/6/09 at 8:16pm
The thing is I believe HDMI is the only input that would need to cycle on this set. All other input types are only of one count, PC, Component, Video, etc and then 4 hdmi. So it's not like they were just slacking off on the hdmi for no reason. I mean they probably could of designed it that way still I don't know. Sorry don't know anything about those codes.

Can I get some more opinions are color settings? Does anyone think Cnet's settings aren't the best. I'm trying to figure out what is best for me. Using Cnet and they look great but I don't know if I am missing out on anything. I guess I need to do some still shot comparisons.
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post #56 of 362
1/7/09 at 3:28am
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Originally Posted by Telexen View Post

This is using a remote to do it for me. You've got to understand how annoying it is to have people complain about a remote 'not working right' when they only have to push one button to turn devices on and set them to the correct inputs - just because they set the remote down with something blocking it's sight so it ends up on some random input. I'm the only one who can figure out how to get it back to where it's supposed to be.

Further more, were it not for the fact that the Harmony remotes remember the input they're on, it would be impossible to get to any certain HDMI input consistently because it starts where it stopped. Have to change your batteries? You're screwed.

It's just poor design. They could make specific IR commands for all other inputs, they should have gone all the way. I'm sticking with connecting all HDMI devices to my HDMI switch to avoid the mess. That way HDMI 1 is the only HDMI input it should ever be on.


I'm still not getting your frustration. I"m not trying to be argumentive. But I still don't understand. You can name each input to know where you are at. If hit the HDMI button and "HDMI1 TV" flashes, hit the button again and "HDMI2 DVD" appears and so on. So you will know where you are.
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post #57 of 362
1/7/09 at 11:49am
Lets get some pics in here - sucky pics are better than no pics
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post #58 of 362
1/7/09 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

I'm still not getting your frustration. I"m not trying to be argumentive. But I still don't understand. You can name each input to know where you are at. If hit the HDMI button and "HDMI1 TV" flashes, hit the button again and "HDMI2 DVD" appears and so on. So you will know where you are.

He's trying to use a universal remote like a Logitech Harmony. With remotes like those, you basically hit a button for what you want to do (watch TV, play video games, watch a DVD, etc.) and it sets all of your various devices to the settings they need to be at to do that function.

Therefore, needing to hit the HDMI input a certain number of times to get from the input you're on to the input you want to be on can be a serious PITA.
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post #59 of 362
1/7/09 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Parja View Post

He's trying to use a universal remote like a Logitech Harmony. With remotes like those, you basically hit a button for what you want to do (watch TV, play video games, watch a DVD, etc.) and it sets all of your various devices to the settings they need to be at to do that function.

Therefore, needing to hit the HDMI input a certain number of times to get from the input you're on to the input you want to be on can be a serious PITA.

OMG LOL! Its been posted a million times that the Harmony will have listings for each individual HDMI input!
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post #60 of 362
1/7/09 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by creemail View Post

AT&T had them cheaper on their website last week....

Chris

Maybe AT&T knows something more than Best Buy.
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