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I was wondering if there are any experienced members in this forum who have built their own home theatre setup for 3D stereoscopic content using the passive polarization method. There were a few things I could use some help with. Before posting this message I had researched all over the internet, in this forum, googling, the works but I could not find the answers or I should say the right 'materials' I need to build this home theatre. If there have already been topics about this on the forum that I may have missed, I apologize and I hope you don't mind directing me to those threads. This is going to be a long post so I hope people don't mind reading a lot.
I'm building my first home theatre 3D stereoscopic projection room. I will be getting a couple of Optoma HD7100 projectors. There is a review of it here, http://www.projectorreviews.com/optoma/hd7100/. I will use them with 2 linear polarized filters in front of the projector lens that will be projected onto a 140" (diagonal) silver screen with a pair of linear polarized glasses that you wear to watch the 3D content. This theatre room will be in a light controlled dark room. I've researched about the differences between the linear and circular polarizer's but the differences are very small in terms of 3D quality and the price in comparison is huge. So I will be sticking with the linear polarization method for now and maybe upgrade to circular in the future.
Before going on I would like to mention that this whole setup is for the average joe, a poor-man's theatre room, and a do-it-yourself as much as you can to save some bucks project. So the goal is really to find the best and cheapest material to get almost similar (or hopefully identical/superior) results from professional products.
One of the issues I have are finding the best polarizer materials for the filter and 3D glasses that is made of great quality and is relatively cheap. The goal is to achieve as little ghosting as possible. There were a number of online stores I found that sell cheap polarizer material. Here are a few:
http://polarization.com/
http://www.3dstereo.com/viewmaster/pj-pfilt-3x3.html
http://www.3dlens.com/shop/polarizer.php
http://www.berezin.com/3d/3dglasses.htm#Polarized
http://www.studio3d.com/pages/store.html
Does anyone have any experience with any of these online stores and can comment on the quality of their polarizer products? Another solution I found on the net was to buy polarizer filters that are used with photo cameras. I found this solution here, http://www.scec.org/geowall/filters.html. In trying to achieve the best possible quality and the least amount of ghosting (cross-talk) when viewing 3D content. Which polarizer would be the best? The filters that are used for photo cameras? Or from one of the links above? I read that if you use different polarizer's for the filters then the ones used on the 3D glasses, that this will add to the ghosting effect. So if this is true, this would mean that using the filters used for camera lens wouldn't be the best idea, because the polarizer on the 3D glasses would be different. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
The other issue is building your own silver screen for 3D. I don't have the budget to spend $300-1000 on a readymade silver screen from professional companies. The best solution and possibly the cheapest depending on the size of your screen if you were to buy a professional made product was the 'Ultra Silver 3D' paint from Goosystems (www.goosystems.com). This product looks great and seems to work really well. But it's still a few hundred too expensive for me. Just for the sake of this thread I will post up some places where you can buy readymade professional silver screens for anyone who does have the money to spend on it.
http://www.paintonscreen.com/index.html
http://www.silverfabric3d.de/html/sf_silver3d.htm
http://www.lighthouseprojection.com/index.html
http://www.berezin.com/3d/screens.htm
http://t-works.en.ecplaza.net/product.asp
http://www.stewartfilm.com/
http://www.harkness-screens.us/ss_3d_spectral240.htm
http://www.dalite.com/
I came across two extremely helpful and inspiring links on the internet about building your own 3D projector and silver screen from scratch.
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index...33&mode=linear
http://www.allinbox.com/vp3d/vp3d.htm (in French, use babelfish to translate)
They did a great job explaining everything in detail. One of them painted their wall to use as a silver screen and the other used a special silver fabric. The best type of paint to use for a silver screen is apparently a white metallic paint, or essentially any kind of metal paint which have polarization properties. Another tip I found was to use a matte paint over the silver screen to get rid of most or all of the unwanted bright hotspots. But would this effect the polarization of the screen? You can even use silver aerosol paint spray cans to make the silver screen with decent results. Another person on the internet (forgot where) mentioned he used silver nylon used to cover vehicles that seemed to have worked very well. I have not been able to confirm any of this myself yet, just simply reading what other people have done with some results.
I have yet to experiment all the different types of silver paints/fabrics to find the best one to use as a silver screen for 3D. I was hoping there would be someone on the forum who could point us to a specific kind of paint or fabric that they have used that seems to work really well with minimal to zero ghosting. That they can also find in your local hardware/paint/fabric store. In these forums I found many people talking about specific types of paints to use like the 'Behr Silver Screen' or the 'Black Widow PFG' etc. Hopefully we can create a similar thread here except for 3D silver screens specifically.
I would really appreciate any kind of help that anyone can offer on this topic/project. I will continue to post my own progress with building my home theatre 3D setup and will post any useful information I may come across or find.
www.stereoscopic3dmovies.com has some great 3D movies in blu-ray and dvd, plus awesome deals on 3dtv's.
Cheers,
Varinder
www.stereoscopic3dmovies.com has some great 3D movies in blu-ray and dvd, plus awesome deals on 3dtv's.
I was wondering if there are any experienced members in this forum who have built their own home theatre setup for 3D stereoscopic content using the passive polarization method. There were a few things I could use some help with. Before posting this message I had researched all over the internet, in this forum, googling, the works but I could not find the answers or I should say the right 'materials' I need to build this home theatre. If there have already been topics about this on the forum that I may have missed, I apologize and I hope you don't mind directing me to those threads. This is going to be a long post so I hope people don't mind reading a lot.
I'm building my first home theatre 3D stereoscopic projection room. I will be getting a couple of Optoma HD7100 projectors. There is a review of it here, http://www.projectorreviews.com/optoma/hd7100/. I will use them with 2 linear polarized filters in front of the projector lens that will be projected onto a 140" (diagonal) silver screen with a pair of linear polarized glasses that you wear to watch the 3D content. This theatre room will be in a light controlled dark room. I've researched about the differences between the linear and circular polarizer's but the differences are very small in terms of 3D quality and the price in comparison is huge. So I will be sticking with the linear polarization method for now and maybe upgrade to circular in the future.
Before going on I would like to mention that this whole setup is for the average joe, a poor-man's theatre room, and a do-it-yourself as much as you can to save some bucks project. So the goal is really to find the best and cheapest material to get almost similar (or hopefully identical/superior) results from professional products.
One of the issues I have are finding the best polarizer materials for the filter and 3D glasses that is made of great quality and is relatively cheap. The goal is to achieve as little ghosting as possible. There were a number of online stores I found that sell cheap polarizer material. Here are a few:
http://polarization.com/
http://www.3dstereo.com/viewmaster/pj-pfilt-3x3.html
http://www.3dlens.com/shop/polarizer.php
http://www.berezin.com/3d/3dglasses.htm#Polarized
http://www.studio3d.com/pages/store.html
Does anyone have any experience with any of these online stores and can comment on the quality of their polarizer products? Another solution I found on the net was to buy polarizer filters that are used with photo cameras. I found this solution here, http://www.scec.org/geowall/filters.html. In trying to achieve the best possible quality and the least amount of ghosting (cross-talk) when viewing 3D content. Which polarizer would be the best? The filters that are used for photo cameras? Or from one of the links above? I read that if you use different polarizer's for the filters then the ones used on the 3D glasses, that this will add to the ghosting effect. So if this is true, this would mean that using the filters used for camera lens wouldn't be the best idea, because the polarizer on the 3D glasses would be different. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
The other issue is building your own silver screen for 3D. I don't have the budget to spend $300-1000 on a readymade silver screen from professional companies. The best solution and possibly the cheapest depending on the size of your screen if you were to buy a professional made product was the 'Ultra Silver 3D' paint from Goosystems (www.goosystems.com). This product looks great and seems to work really well. But it's still a few hundred too expensive for me. Just for the sake of this thread I will post up some places where you can buy readymade professional silver screens for anyone who does have the money to spend on it.
http://www.paintonscreen.com/index.html
http://www.silverfabric3d.de/html/sf_silver3d.htm
http://www.lighthouseprojection.com/index.html
http://www.berezin.com/3d/screens.htm
http://t-works.en.ecplaza.net/product.asp
http://www.stewartfilm.com/
http://www.harkness-screens.us/ss_3d_spectral240.htm
http://www.dalite.com/
I came across two extremely helpful and inspiring links on the internet about building your own 3D projector and silver screen from scratch.
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index...33&mode=linear
http://www.allinbox.com/vp3d/vp3d.htm (in French, use babelfish to translate)
They did a great job explaining everything in detail. One of them painted their wall to use as a silver screen and the other used a special silver fabric. The best type of paint to use for a silver screen is apparently a white metallic paint, or essentially any kind of metal paint which have polarization properties. Another tip I found was to use a matte paint over the silver screen to get rid of most or all of the unwanted bright hotspots. But would this effect the polarization of the screen? You can even use silver aerosol paint spray cans to make the silver screen with decent results. Another person on the internet (forgot where) mentioned he used silver nylon used to cover vehicles that seemed to have worked very well. I have not been able to confirm any of this myself yet, just simply reading what other people have done with some results.
I have yet to experiment all the different types of silver paints/fabrics to find the best one to use as a silver screen for 3D. I was hoping there would be someone on the forum who could point us to a specific kind of paint or fabric that they have used that seems to work really well with minimal to zero ghosting. That they can also find in your local hardware/paint/fabric store. In these forums I found many people talking about specific types of paints to use like the 'Behr Silver Screen' or the 'Black Widow PFG' etc. Hopefully we can create a similar thread here except for 3D silver screens specifically.
I would really appreciate any kind of help that anyone can offer on this topic/project. I will continue to post my own progress with building my home theatre 3D setup and will post any useful information I may come across or find.
www.stereoscopic3dmovies.com has some great 3D movies in blu-ray and dvd, plus awesome deals on 3dtv's.
Cheers,
Varinder






















