ULTRA cheap sub? $100-180? - Page 2

how does the klipsh sub 10 compare to the subs listed here? I can pick up this sub at the sameprice as the pa120. currently i am stumped as to whether or not i need the extra power of the pa120 or the klipsh. I only have a 3.0 setup now with polk rti a3's and a csi a4 center. Would it be worth it to spend the extra $50?

Here's a great first timers project and quite inexpensive but with substantial output and SQ. It'll work nicely in a small box. Here's the driver

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-466

and here's a ready made 2cuft box.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=302-810

And here's a great amp
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/psho...04&ctab=1#Tabs

And you'll need a port tube
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=268-350
You'll need to adjust the length to 15" for a 25hz tune

All you need to do is cut the hole for the driver and amplifier and Port. You'll want to line the inside of the box with carpet padding. Since the Port is almost as deep as the enclosure, use either bottom front corner for the location and install the amp towards the tip of the enclosure for port clearance.

So there you have it, a simple sub project with clean output down to 22Hz at about 105db.

Thanks for the links and the help. Will this easily out perform anything in the $500 price range?

I would like to continue the discussion of the options available in this price range.

I know that these are budget subs but are there any design options that make one a better choice. I was reading the reviews and saw that some of them use foam surrounds vs rubber? Also the material that the woofer is made of? Is this something that would make a difference in the life of the speaker? Sorry if these are basic questions, i am new to this and am trying to learn as i go. I have also heard that with subs the specs are the best representation of the performance and auditions are not needed as much. If this is so why do some people say that you should avoid certain brands when the specs are similar to the others.

I am looking for a casual HT for TV and games. but it is also our main living area (with kids). I plan on keeping this until it dies or i decide to upgrade everything again so i need it to last a while. It will be mainly used for broadcast tv. I have been listening to more music recently since the new bookshelfs so if one is a better choice for these i would like to know.

thanks for the help with my decision. i appreciate it.

In your price range, choices would be the Velodyne VX-10, Energy ESW-10, tSc ASW-10 for around $150. If you can add a bit more you can try getting a BIC H-100 (if you can still find one) or the PA-120.

You have to watch some members input with a grain of salt, the best way is to do research some times on the people that give advice, there is genuine people giving great advice and then there are others who are not fans of any brand that is below a certain price range or it is not a big time brand.
Like me I bought almost all speakers from the speaker company, I am happy with my set up at the price that I paid, My sub was a total different purchase because i wanted one of the top rated subs, I purchase an AV123 MFW-15 and I am Very Happy with it.
During the Period of finding which sub to purchase there were always the same people batching this internet direct company, just like the speaker company and there were different people saying good things about them so I weighted fact after fact, Yes they do have problems with shipping and contacts in others, But they have one thing in common, Performance for the amount of money that is spent. Like Some I which I had the money for a Porche 911 Ruff Twin Turbo, But I can Only Afford What I have.(no comment).There always will be opinions, but ultimately you have to make your own choice, the DIY to me seams to be the best bang for the buck if willing to get dirty and at the same time learn.
Hopefully I did not bore you to death. I am very happy with the members on this forum.

during my search , the mention above are the best for the price range. I end up ponying up a few more bucks and got the PA-120. It should be here soon. My 2nd choice was the tSc ASW-10. Any of these are great for the money. Oh yeah, don't forget the Daytona mention in the earler post either.

I got the tSc ASW-10 for my secondary setup during tSc's sale. I have the eD A2-300 in the primary one, that eD sub is a beast! The odye finish is not something to ogle at though.

Do you like the TSC ASW-10?? I might wait for that if it goes on sale again. We will see. I don't have high end equipment and won't for a while. With that said I'm looking for a budget sub under 200.00... I know people are going to tell me to do this or that and I do appreciate that. But I will say right now my money is going into building my house. Then after that is done I will drop some money into it....I am designing a room in the basement for me in our new house we will be building in the spring.

I actually like it very much for the price I got it, I am glad I got it during the sale. It is paired with NS-AP480 Yamaha satellites and they actually blend in quite nicely. I would say it is a solid sub for the price I paid for it, though I don't exactly know how low it goes (which might tick off some people because some seeing hard facts in the form of frequency response vs. SPL graphs).

Of course it is missing the lower end of the bass spectrum when compared to my A2-300 and the eD definitely outputs tons more SPL than the ASW-10.

I totally agree. I am not at this point ready to spend large amount of money. With that said I also realize a budget sub won't be the top sub out there. I just want something to hold me over until I build my house. My SS speakers got damaged in the move from FL to Maine...So I bought Sb1000 bookshelf and SnB5000 center from sony... They sound pretty good considering. When I currently am using a OLD Passive Sub..

If budget is really tight and you just need something to get you by until you build your house, even the ASW-8 might suit you if your room is just small. Otherwise possibly wait for a sale.

Many people on this form have said that the ASW-8 is a much better band for buck than the esw-10.

Price is not bad also for the ASW-8 even if it's not on sale.

It is a pretty good small sub for the price from what I hear. If you have to have a sub right now and dont want to wait and save then this is probably the best option. Most people on this forum has said that this sub is a descent buy for the money but the asw-10 you dont get your moneys worth.

Got my ASW-10 for $100 when tSc had their sale, so I'm not complaining. The ASW-8 was $80 during the sale.

You are right on this. The price the other members were reffering to was the current price not when they were have their awesome sales around christmas. I am sorry I should have clarified that. I believe they were also referring to the ESW-10 and 8 which is the same sub but the "name brand" version. Although it can be had for around the same price point.

What if I do plan on using this system significantly for music? Am I going to have to spend a lot more money or simply look for a different sub?

There are certain subs that are better for music than home theater but you usually have to pay a descent price for those subs. At the low budget range it appears most are sufficient in both catagories.

The ASW-8 is good bang/buck, but the black vinyl finish on the one I have is peeling in numerous places. The finish is all sharp edges and sharp corners, which just beg to begin peeling. I'm probably going to have to grab some rubber cement and spend 15 minutes or so fixing up the vinyl.

I got it for around $71 shipped ($80 sale with stackable 10% code), so I dunno where/if I can complain.

I've been trying to research the Polk PSW10 lately. How would it fit in with other recommendations in this thread?

edit: I'd post the link to newegg, but I'm a new member. It's listed at $109 on newegg.com, whereas it was $199 in Best Buy as I was browsing through the other day.

Hopefully my ASW-10 doesn't start peeling off!

PSW10 goes down to only 40Hz. The tSc ASW-10 goes down to 28Hz while the ASW-8 goes down to 33Hz.

I am not sure if I should recommend the ASW-10 since it's $150 right now, I got it for $100.

To confess, I goofed and bought the Polk in a pinch for the $199. I had just received my Yamaha 663 in the mail and my current setup's subwoofer was unable to connect to the receiver.

I normally research any purchase, but I made this one in haste. I'm not necessarily regretting the purchase as it sounds pretty good, but after seeing the price online I know I wasn't getting a deal.

I think I'm going to return the Polk to Best Buy (used for just a few days now) and do some more research and possibly snipe one of the ones mentioned in this thread.

That's $215 with tax computed in. What do you mean your current setup's subwoofer was able to connect to the receiver?

Alright so my setup was an RCA 5.1 HTIB from 2001. The sub from that connected with the left and right speaker wire connections, but Yamaha 663 has a regular LFE out. edit: removing edit, my brain is not awake yet

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/bizzyb/AURALECSTASY.html


Don't own one, never heard one, but some people who have swear by these for the price $139 shipped.

pjones0404

Woofer suspensions......Foam suspensions were a new way 30 years ago to support woofer cones instead of resin impregnated cloth and rubber that had been used for decades. Foam was less expensive and you could get it in colors. Back in the 80's Jensen used light blue and Cerwin Vega used red, kinda like trademarks. The problem with foam for woofer suspensions is that they deteriorate at around 15 years after manufacture. Rubber rarely rots out in woofer suspensions unless they have been abused. I see no reason that a rubber suspension won't be going strong after 50 years of use.

Resin impregnated cloth was shaped like an accordian in stead of the half round like "modern" cone suspensions. It was designed as the outer woofer cone suspension for large bass reflex cabinets like the Altec Voice of the Theater speakers (15" w/ co-axial tweeter array) found in theaters powered by a 15 watt tube amp. It is not used much in home speakers, but is still used for pro sound reinforcement. In small bass reflex cabinets, designers went with rubber and then foam surrounds because they had a lower resonant frequency than the accordian edged woofer. Resin cloth is still used to align the voice coil with the magnet assembly in most woofers today, but you don't see unless you pull the woofer.

In a subwoofer, being able to produce low frequencing is not the only goal. Bass articulation is also a goal. Some subs just go THUB..THUB..THUB with out the pitch definition that should be there. There are qualities needed in a sub that cannot me measured, they have to be heard.

Some popular and good speaker companies don't make subwoofers as well as some of the dedicated sub makers in some folks opinion, and some companies have earned reputations based on quirks of their design or QC problems.

Good luck in your search

pjones,

Curious what did you decide on? You said you were making your decision last week.

Do you suppose the OP is going to let us know?

jp