Samsung 2009 plasmas - Page 64

Originally Posted by gpwatfrd

I would also like to see it listed somewhere legit like a best buy,sears etc..
It does not make sense that the 63b590 is available anytime soon. I along with others on this forum were told otherwise from samsung reps.

Originally Posted by emelioestaves

I checked our system at Best Buy today and found the 63B590. It is not on the website but it is now in our internal system for checking stock. I can't remember exactly but I believe the retail price was something like $3799. It has an in stock date of I believe around the end of this month. So it should be around soon, which is why people say they have already seen a couple in Best Buy. We tend to get TVs a couple weeks before their in stock date for display sometimes.

Originally Posted by jenseike

What about the buzzing sound that are on these sets?, and I have still to read how the contrast, grey scale and blacks are in darker conditions.. I can see that the lower end models are preaty good so I would imagine this is also - but still I want to get some info on how this plasma performs in dark conditions

Originally Posted by jae3cpa

emelio,

Do tell:

Does this TV have Cinema smooth ?

Does this have TV Color Enhancer 2 or 3 ?

Does this TV have Ultra Filter Bright ?

Does this TV 1 or 2 screen sheets ?

Any info you could provide about this Tv would be appreciated !

My local store has a B590 on display. According to the small price tag which lists a few features, lists Ultra FilterBright (a Series 8 feature) instead of the regular FilterBright.

To check Cinema Smooth, I opened the menu and made following selections: Mode | Picture | Picture Options | Film Mode gives the options Off, Auto, and Cinema Smooth.

Originally Posted by ZippyBongHitsWee

THe newest B series plasmas from Sammy all do very well with nice neutral greyscale tracking and a gamma curve thats almost spot on to the ideal of 2.2. The sets I have played with include the B560, B650, B860 and Im about to check out the lower end B550 and B450 this evening wityh some updates as well(like the single/double pane of glass issue).

Originally Posted by ZippyBongHitsWee

I think the buzzing sounds are hit or miss. None of the Samsungs I have bought have ever even had a hint of buzzing. The few that I have seen buzz were able to be fixed on the spot by tightening up the back chassis panel or the addition of a small piece of vblock(dynamat)on the contact point of the chassis. People that complain about the buzzing dont realise how easy it is to remedy, regardless of who makes it, be it Pioneer, Panasonic of Samsung.

Originally Posted by ZippyBongHitsWee

I think the buzzing sounds are hit or miss. None of the Samsungs I have bought have ever even had a hint of buzzing. The few that I have seen buzz were able to be fixed on the spot by tightening up the back chassis panel or the addition of a small piece of vblock(dynamat)on the contact point of the chassis. People that complain about the buzzing dont realise how easy it is to remedy, regardless of who makes it, be it Pioneer, Panasonic of Samsung.

Originally Posted by jae3cpa

emelio,

Do tell:

Does this TV have Cinema smooth ?

Does this have TV Color Enhancer 2 or 3 ?

Does this TV have Ultra Filter Bright ?

Does this TV 1 or 2 screen sheets ?

Any info you could provide about this Tv would be appreciated !

Originally Posted by john7000

Zippy

Will the pn50b860 work well in a bright room that faces north(no sun)???I just dont want to sit in a dark room while paying wii or just wathing a tv show.

Thanks John420

Originally Posted by jae3cpa

What is the scrolling maintenance screen !

Originally Posted by kanpol

Hey zippyBongHitsWee(love the name by the way, brings me back to my younger days)so cell light should be kept at 10 and greyscale -2. Movie mode warm 2 and colorspace native am I correct in that?

Originally Posted by H_Prestige

I don't know about your room, but I've seen the 850 in a brightly lit portion of best buy and the blacks looked LCD black. I was fooled into thinking it was a LED LCD at first with how punchy the entire image was. The ultra filter bright plus preserves contrast in brightly lit rooms extremely well. There was a panasonic g10 facing the same direction right next to the samsung and the store lights were just killing it.

Originally Posted by john7000

Zippy

Will the pn50b860 work well in a bright room that faces north(no sun)???I just dont want to sit in a dark room while paying wii or just wathing a tv show.

Thanks John420

Originally Posted by seowfun

The buzzing sound on my 650 was not fixable by tightening screws. The buzz is generated from electrical charges in the pixels. If the brightness of the screen change, the buzzing change too. For instance, when loading a blu-ray disc, the screen will basically be dark, and the player will flash the "Loading..." text. As the text get brighter, the buzz get louder with higher frequency, so it's clearly correlated to what's displayed on the screen. Few others have observed the same thing. I checked out a few plasmas in the stores, and all of them exhibit similar buzzing frequency as what I have at home. At the stores, I just could not tell whether they are as loud as the one I had at home because of the noises.

As a side note, my old 42" Samsung plasma buzz too, but I got to be at the back of the panel to hear that. Thus, that wasn't an issue at all. But for the 58B650, I can hear the buzz even if I'm 12' away at the front of the TV.

Take a look at this site, which has a section that talk about plasma buzzing.

http://samsungplasmatvfaq.com/index.php/Troubleshooting

I'm glad many people who own plasma tvs that does not buzz at all. I wished mine could behave like that.

Originally Posted by whjeffs

Which screws? The ones readily accessable on the back or are you talking about taking it apart and tightening the circuit boards to the chassis?

Originally Posted by kanpol

Mr. ZippyBongHitsWee I wanted to ask your opinion on the color space not haveing the custom option in this years models. What would be the best option for color space since wide isn't on there either. Also on the A series when you would change the cell light from 0 to 10 there wasnt much change, on the B series I noticed a lot more change going from 0 to 10, is 10 still the best to keep it at? One more thing, sorry, I have the B450 and when the screen is pure black(like at the end of a movie for example with no credits being shown yet) the outside edge of my screen flickers. It only does this in movie mode, standard and dynamic dont exhib this. Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by ZippyBongHitsWee

Honestly, Samsungs "antireflection" coating is OK. The 860 has the best Samsung has to offer and I think in bright rooms its OK, nothing special. It works, but dont expect miracles.

Originally Posted by mrandtx

Here is a quote from someone that has touched a B590:
(from: http://forums.cnet.com/5208-13973_10...hreadID=342316)

I would assume that if it has Ultra Filter Bright, it has one sheet of glass.

Marc

Originally Posted by jsf

I saw the one on display. In addition to checking for Cinema Smooth on the menu, I downloaded the user manual from the Samsung site for the B550 which covers the B560 and B590. If you search for Cinema, you will see it is listed, but only for the B560 and B590, not for the B550.

The store price tag indicated Ultra FilterBright, but they did not have any marketing literature to verify. Not sure about Color Enhancer 2 versus 3. I did not check to see if that could be determined from the user manual.

The big issue for me is Cinema Smooth. In the LA area, a few stores each have 1. Some have not opened the unit so still new in the box. The regional warehouse has 4, so I went ahead and bought one. It will be delivered tomorrow.

Although at $3799 the B590 is a few hundred dollars more than the B550 elsewhere, Best Buy is offering for expensive items like this 36 months interest free. Depending on how you calculate the interest, that is worth a few hundred dollars.

Originally Posted by jae3cpa

Dang JSf,

Im jealous as hell. That TV is no where to be found on the east coast right now.Im in the DC area...I have one reatailer that says he will carry it and another that says he can order it. Please give us a complete review once you have the set !

jae3cpa

Originally Posted by Foxdii

If you access the service menu via (mute, 1, 8, 2, power) there is an option to turn 24x4 on. It is currently turned off. With this setting turned on the TV will display Cinema smooth. Hope this helps, as the 860 is $100.00 more.

Originally Posted by Foxdii

If you access the service menu via (mute, 1, 8, 2, power) there is an option to turn 24x4 on. It is currently turned off. With this setting turned on the TV will display Cinema smooth. Hope this helps, as the 860 is $100.00 more.