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post #1501 of 2549
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Originally Posted by SpenceJT View Post

Cameron referred to it as "2.5 D" (or something to the effect). Computer generated films, are easier to render as 3D in that the entire environment is digitally created in 3D already, and only the depth map need be extracted and re-rendered.

A valid point, and one which I made in one of these threads a few weeks ago regarding videogames that can be played in convincing 3D using eDimensional and other systems.

But there is, I believe, more 3D information in videogames (displayed in 2D) that permits changes of vantage point and perspective in game.

In the case of animation where live actors are employed, the effects of 3D conversion may be more complex. In the case of such live/animation films unless the 3D conversion is considered while shooting, the problem is that the director makes choices concerning what to focus on...where to "lead the eye." When you convert to 3D some of this is lost or altered in ways that may be jarring.

It's also sometimes the case that in these 3D conversions, you have an effect of characters and objects appearing in separate planes, like those popup books that are "3D" in a sense, but lacking some important depth and parallax cues.

Going back to videogames, it is the player who constantly chooses the character's vantage point (and what to focus on), and the programmer puts enough information into the game to allow for realistic changes of perspective. In a film, the director makes these choices in a way that is somewhat unalterable.

Anyway, interesting stuff, and DLP is apparently the best technology for viewing 3D at home. But there have been some recent advances in holography that will probably make (as usual) science fiction a pretty reliable form of literary prophecy.

taichi4
post #1502 of 2549
I am considering buying a laservue in april or a diamond series 82 now. Is it worth the wait for the laservue and what do you all think pricing will drop to if any change.Also does anyone know if they are going to go bigger than 82" next year?
post #1503 of 2549
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Originally Posted by superjesus View Post


... Directv has 6 - 3D channels now ..


I only know of 3 channels. What are the other 3?
post #1504 of 2549
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Originally Posted by dhvsfan View Post

I only know of 3 channels. What are the other 3?

You're right, DirecTV only has 3 dedicated 3D Ch's.

COD: Blk Ops is 3D ready, so you can play it in 3D on your PC/PS3/XB360.
post #1505 of 2549
another member of of the LaserVue owner's thread makes it official! My set was delivered this afternoon, and thanks to a good friend (who took the afternoon off from work), carried into my home and wrestled down a challenging flight of stairs to it's resting place.

Daughter testing it out via IRT Deadliest Roads - planning to perform a DVE calibration in the coming days, and post a photo of three along with an unboxing video.

Kicking back with a celebratory bottle o' Guinness while I work to tweak the Harmony 880.
post #1506 of 2549
Looking forward to your thoughts - and have fun!
post #1507 of 2549
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Originally Posted by SpenceJT View Post

another member of of the LaserVue owner's thread makes it official! My set was delivered this afternoon, and thanks to a good friend (who took the afternoon off from work), carried into my home and wrestled down a challenging flight of stairs to it's resting place.

Daughter testing it out via IRT Deadliest Roads - planning to perform a DVE calibration in the coming days, and post a photo of three along with an unboxing video.

Kicking back with a celebratory bottle o' Guinness while I work to tweak the Harmony 880.

Check out Avatar on it. People who've seen it at my house, swear its 3D like.
post #1508 of 2549
Spent much of tonight setting up and logging in to the streaming apps. Need to see if I can add Hulu as an activity on my Harmony 880.

Does anyone know if there are any discrete codes for picture modes? It would be nice to have my Dish satellite in Natural, Bluray in Cinema, and 3D bluray in Bright mode.
post #1509 of 2549
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

My set traveled from NJ to FL and was handled very carefully every step of the way. Manna Distribution Service was the carrier and apparently they handle large electronics often. Via their web site I was able to track to progress including names of those signing for warehouse delivery etc. The actual delivery (free included threshold only) was accomplished by an outfit called Esquire Logistics by two men who helpfully unboxed the set out on the driveway so I could make an inspection in daylight before they placed it on my stand and waited until I was satisfied that it was working properly. I trust these guys on a thousand mile trip more than I would 7 miles under the control of BB employees.

I think you have to ask your dealer about freebies although there is a Mits promotions page.

Hello,
I need to do the same thing - get the tv from southeastern Pa to Tampa Fla.
Where did you purchase the set? Did you see it before deciding on this model? I cannot find any HT stores that carry the 75" A91.
Thank you,
Tony
post #1510 of 2549
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Originally Posted by portony View Post
Hello,
I need to do the same thing - get the tv from southeastern Pa to Tampa Fla.
Where did you purchase the set? Did you see it before deciding on this model? I cannot find any HT stores that carry the 75" A91.
Thank you,
Tony
I bought it from Electronics Expo in NJ via the Internet. Yes, I saw one and I made a four hundred mile round trip from Wausau, WI to Minneapolis on a Sunday to do it.
post #1511 of 2549
Played COD: Blk OPs in 3D, very kool. Enjoyed the 1st level (Cuba, Castro compound) a lot.
post #1512 of 2549
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Originally Posted by portony View Post
Hello,
I need to do the same thing - get the tv from southeastern Pa to Tampa Fla.
Where did you purchase the set? Did you see it before deciding on this model? I cannot find any HT stores that carry the 75" A91.
Thank you,
Tony
Ordered mine from OneCall.com, who also shipped via Manna. It arrived in about a week, strapped to a pallet, wrapped with caution tape, and had a "shock-sticker" on it (which remained clear) to indicate if the package had been mishandled along the way. The box arrived in pristine condition, and Manna took care to ensure that it's precious cargo arrived undamaged.
post #1513 of 2549
Anyone know of any good deals? I saw a while back the 75 was going for 3700 when will we see this again do you all think? I am trying to spend 3500 think this is possible by next april?
post #1514 of 2549
For those with "calibrated" sets, how would you characterize the change in black levels?
post #1515 of 2549
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Originally Posted by SpenceJT View Post

Here is the video that I had taken from my second visit to see the LaserVue. I made a point to bring along my IR thermometer, and obtain readings from both sides of the television (connection panel on the right hand side, and venting on the left). I had also took a temp of the top, however it was below that of the side panels so I didn't bother to record it.

In addition to temperature, I have footage of the overscan screen from Digital Video Essentials (Blu-ray), which illustrates what looks to be around a 2-3% overscan, and (to my eye at least) very good geometry. I didn't do much by way of showing color or black level because my HD camera's footage is never as good as seeing it with the naked eye.

Still - with the lighter/brighter colors of the Bose system that was running in Demo Mode, you can clearly see that the viewing angle of this television clearly sets it apart from any other rear projection device.

As for the reseller - I can no longer recommend them as an outlet worthy of anything other than demonstration of the product as they are unwilling/unable to compete with the likes of OneCall or Electronics-Expo. This was my second and final visit to the store in Rockford IL.

Here is my second and final video (from the reseller) demonstrating the LaserVue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfz8tuEZng

Save video, with the audio of my daughter and her friend excised.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZC0YR59NBE



Regards,

Spence

Hello,
I'm not an advanced HT techie so I don't know much about this overscan issue. Would you (expert) consider this a huge deal / deal breaker. My local HT guy is telling me it is a big deal and I should stay clear of this TV.
I want to love this set and go out and buy it without even seeing it in person. Actually, I have no choice. I can't find any local dealers who carry it.

Thank you,
post #1516 of 2549
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Originally Posted by portony View Post

Hello,
I'm not an advanced HT techie so I don't know much about this overscan issue. Would you (expert) consider this a huge deal / deal breaker. My local HT guy is telling me it is a big deal and I should stay clear of this TV.
I want to love this set and go out and buy it without even seeing it in person. Actually, I have no choice. I can't find any local dealers who carry it.

Thank you,

First off, I am far from any expert, and will not feel bad if any of the resident forum experts want to jump in and correct me.

This article provides an excellent explanation on overscan and why we have had it.

There are displays with "1.1 pixel mapping" meaning that theoretically, every pixel is displayed on screen.

For me, I have no problem with overscan unless it is excessive. Case in point, my old RPTV had about a 12% overscan, which resulted in a portion of the news-tickers and sports scores displaying off of my screen. I was able to adjust the amount of overscan on my old set down to 8%, which made all text visible. I was happy to see that the LaserVue has only a 3% overscan, which is far greater than my old set (even after having calibrated it), so I will not have this problem. To me, any overscan below that of 5% is inconsequential. A display that has no overscan is fine, however most video production standards (broadcast as well as DVD & Blu-ray media) still stick to a "safe zone" wherein all action is to be displayed.

I would disagree with your local HT guy on this one, particularly if he has not seen the television with his own eyes as it must really be seen in person. See it before you judge it.

Regards,

Spence
post #1517 of 2549
Potony - here's a great thread on over-scan

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archi.../t-796065.html

My other half researched this set and we bought unseen. He's a geek, i'm not and we both love it. We have discovered our fave settings for what we are viewing - angle of viewing is great - We haven't calibrated and not into 3-d.

Yes, price is a consideration, but first day consistent pic quality/color over the years without dealing with lamps and such - gimme lasers!

JMHO -
post #1518 of 2549
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Originally Posted by portony View Post

Hello,
I'm not an advanced HT techie so I don't know much about this overscan issue. Would you (expert) consider this a huge deal / deal breaker. My local HT guy is telling me it is a big deal and I should stay clear of this TV.
I want to love this set and go out and buy it without even seeing it in person. Actually, I have no choice. I can't find any local dealers who carry it.

Thank you,

Deal breaker? No way.

Stock - showing approximately 2.5% overscan factory setting.

Attachment 190930

Display shrunk with a video processor to 0% overscan. How much important material do you think will ever be offered in the outer area?

Attachment 190931

I shrunk the picture considerably more and lightened the room a bit to show the bezel.

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post #1519 of 2549
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Originally Posted by AVRat View Post

For those with "calibrated" sets, how would you categorize the change in black levels?

Excellent! Much improved.
post #1520 of 2549
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post
Deal breaker? No way.

Stock - showing approximately 2.5% overscan factory setting.

Attachment 190930

Display shrunk with a video processor to 0% overscan. How much important material do you think will ever be offered in the outer area?

Attachment 190931

I shrunk the picture considerably more and lightened the room a bit to show the bezel.

Attachment 190932
OVERSCAN Question answered,

Thank you all for your input, greatly appreciated,

Tony P.
post #1521 of 2549
I am quite enjoying my LaserVue, however am having issues getting my Harmony 880 to change inputs based on activity.

You see, I have the main HDMI output of my Panasonic BDT350 going into a splitter, with one feed going into the TV's HDMI 2, which is set to "Cinema" mode for viewing standard 2D content, and the other feed going from the splitter to the TV's HDMI 3 which is set to "Bright" mode for viewing 3D content.

While I have no signal issues with either input, my Harmony can't seem to be able to change the HDMI input.

Has anyone else had any issue of this type? I figure I'd put it out here while I'm working through various configurations on my remote.

Thanks,
Spence
post #1522 of 2549
I been having some issues with my 75 for about 4 days:
1) In the mourning the TV do not want to turn on, I have to unplug the TV to turn it on.
2)If I switch the TV from Sat. to TV antenna I get a blue screen the same thing happen with the Vudu screen.
3) If I switch from Brillant to Natural all the parameters change as it should be but the tint.
exemple if I have tint 35 on Brillant, when I go to Natural -that I have tint on 16-, It will stay on 35. That is the issues that I have.

Guys could you let me know what to do and if I should call Mits.


NEED HELP
post #1523 of 2549
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Originally Posted by nescosmo View Post

I been having some issues with my 75 for about 4 days:
1) In the mourning the TV do not want to turn on, I have to unplug the TV to turn it on.
2)If I switch the TV from Sat. to TV antenna I get a blue screen the same thing happen with the Vudu screen.
3) If I switch from Brillant to Natural all the parameters change as it should be but the tint.
exemple if I have tint 35 on Brillant, when I go to Natural -that I have tint on 16-, It will stay on 35. That is the issues that I have.

Guys could you let me know what to do and if I should call Mits.


NEED HELP

NESCOSMO - have you tried a reset of your inputs? I don't know which buttons to hold down, but I recall in the user guide, that there is a way to perform resets for what I think may be individual inputs. Best of luck man. I hope you get to the bottom of it, and can get back to enjoying your set!

Regards,
Spence
post #1524 of 2549
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Originally Posted by nescosmo View Post

I been having some issues with my 75 for about 4 days:
1) In the mourning the TV do not want to turn on, I have to unplug the TV to turn it on.
2)If I switch the TV from Sat. to TV antenna I get a blue screen the same thing happen with the Vudu screen.
3) If I switch from Brillant to Natural all the parameters change as it should be but the tint.
exemple if I have tint 35 on Brillant, when I go to Natural -that I have tint on 16-, It will stay on 35. That is the issues that I have.

Guys could you let me know what to do and if I should call Mits.


NEED HELP

Color and Tint (among some other settings) are global settings. They will remain the same and are not stored independently for each picture mode.
post #1525 of 2549
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

Color and Tint (among some other settings) are global settings. They will remain the same and are not stored independently for each picture mode.

I'm not entirely sure that statement is accurate as I distinctly recall setting individual settings based on the input (HDMI in this case), and my settings were different for HDMI input 1 (Satellite, Wii via AVR), 2 (Blu-ray), and 3 (3D Blu-ray).

The only "Global" setting appears to be for that of the "Variable Smooth 120 Film Motion" setting.

Again, I am reasonably sure they are independent settings, but I can't say for sure until I return home to verify.
post #1526 of 2549
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Originally Posted by SpenceJT View Post

I'm not entirely sure that statement is accurate as I distinctly recall setting individual settings based on the input (HDMI in this case), and my settings were different for HDMI input 1 (Satellite, Wii via AVR), 2 (Blu-ray), and 3 (3D Blu-ray).

The only "Global" setting appears to be for that of the "Variable Smooth 120 Film Motion" setting.

Again, I am reasonably sure they are independent settings, but I can't say for sure until I return home to verify.

If color and tint were global settings, calibrations would be an absolute nightmare and I'm sure we would have heard more than a few complaints about it by now especially since we know that a few have been professionally calibrated.
post #1527 of 2549
Thanks all of you for your input. Well I call Mits and they ask me if when I have the blue screen, I push menu will it come on, and I said yes . He said your problem is in your Stereo,-avr-.
It is out of control; Check your cables and reset your avr, your hdmi are confused.

I do have an Onkyo Tx-NR906 and I took all the hdmi and let only the menu on the tv from the avr and reset all the hdmi as they should be and wamooo All went back to normal.

What a joy..

Today I order My 3DA-1 and my Viewsonic PGD-150, see what happen when I tune the 3d channels on Direct TV.
post #1528 of 2549
I'm seriously considering the LaserVue or the 82838. I was curious if the LaserVue has a sharper picture and better black level compared
to the bulb lit Mitsu

Thanks

Robert
post #1529 of 2549
Guys as you know I order today the viewsonic glasses from Amazon and later after eat dinner I went and look at my mail and amazon order had 3 glasses not two. Well one of them they send it with $5 and something shipping and the other two they back order. Do you know that there is no more phone # that you can communicate with Amazon. and the order that they send me with the shipping charge, I could not cancel it. So I was force to cancel the other two.
I will never Order another Item from this guys. You are stock with them with no way to get in contact. SO BE AWARE OF THE MOUNSTER.
post #1530 of 2549
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Originally Posted by nescosmo View Post

Guys as you know I order today the viewsonic glasses from Amazon and later after eat dinner I went and look at my mail and amazon order had 3 glasses not two. Well one of them they send it with $5 and something shipping and the other two they back order. Do you know that there is no more phone # that you can communicate with Amazon. and the order that they send me with the shipping charge, I could not cancel it. So I was force to cancel the other two.
I will never Order another Item from this guys. You are stock with them with no way to get in contact. SO BE AWARE OF THE MOUNSTER.

Did you put glasses in the cart previously? That information is saved and when you come back, even weeks later and order more, it is added to the original contents of the cart..
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