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post #2221 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Amillennialist View Post

So, RU, can you offer any input on how the A94 compares to the best televisions in terms of black levels/color?

Thanks.

It compares very favorably, in my opinion. The best evidence I can offer is that not one of my customers who bought the L75-A91 – and I have sold more of that model than almost any dealer my size in the country (according to my Mitsubishi rep) – has later said that s/he regretted their decision. While that is anecdotal, it is meaningful in that I have not seen such high satisfaction levels with any other model of television that I sell – including the very best Panasonic, Sony, LG and Sharp plasmas and LED-backlit LCDs made today.
post #2222 of 2625
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Originally Posted by RU Geekman View Post

It compares very favorably, in my opinion. The best evidence I can offer is that not one of my customers who bought the L75-A91 - and I have sold more of that model than almost any dealer my size in the country (according to my Mitsubishi rep) - has later said that s/he regretted their decision. While that is anecdotal, it is meaningful in that I have not seen such high satisfaction levels with any other model of television that I sell - including the very best Panasonic, Sony, LG and Sharp plasmas and LED-backlit LCDs made today.

That's good to hear.

I trust your personal opinion: Do the A94's blacks/colors look as good as the best plasmas?

Thanks, again.
post #2223 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Amillennialist View Post
Do the A94's blacks/colors look as good as the best plasmas?
The answer to that question will not be known until the displays are available and calibrated, then shown side by side with other calibrated displays, the brands of your choice. Without calibration, "looking" at displays and trying to determine relative picture quality is a futile as picking out the "best" TV on the wall at Best Buy.

The new A94 screen should enable very good black levels. From memory, I believe my A91 measured .008 - .009 MLL. Assuming the A94 reaches .006 or so, which is excellent, it still is not as dark as the top tier plasmas.
post #2224 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post
The answer to that question will not be known until the displays are available and calibrated, then shown side by side with other calibrated displays, the brands of your choice. Without calibration, "looking" at displays and trying to determine relative picture quality is a futile as picking out the "best" TV on the wall at Best Buy.

The new A94 screen should enable very good black levels. From memory, I believe my A91 measured .008 - .009 MLL. Assuming the A94 reaches .006 or so, which is excellent, it still is not as dark as the top tier plasmas.
Thank you, Buzz.
post #2225 of 2625
I can attest that I have had about 10 people over to see my set and 90% of them agree its the best picture they've ever seen--ESPECIALLY considering the size of it to where it still remains so clear. Find one fully calibrated (minimizes the white speckle) and run the recent amazing Blu-Ray of Grand Prix filmed on far-superior 1960s stock (Avatar is too "digital" and fake). Then you tell me.

As for the pricing comment--that actually was list price he stated--but it's best to keep all price talk out of this thread. Let's just say what you can get the "older" LV for now is worth every penny and then some.
post #2226 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post
Find one fully calibrated (minimizes the white speckle)
Calibration is nothing more than getting a TV to display as closely as possible to the Rec. 709 standard. If that involves reducing Contrast, then yes, speckle will be reduced along with the reduction in luminance. Beyond that, if it's a DLP, you'll probably see speckle. It needn't be "fully" calibrated. Get a calibration disc, set black and white levels, and you've accomplished 99% of what can be done.
post #2227 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post

I can attest that I have had about 10 people over to see my set and 90% of them agree its the best picture they've ever seen--ESPECIALLY considering the size of it to where it still remains so clear. Find one fully calibrated (minimizes the white speckle) and run the recent amazing Blu-Ray of Grand Prix filmed on far-superior 1960s stock (Avatar is too "digital" and fake). Then you tell me.

As for the pricing comment--that actually was list price he stated--but it's best to keep all price talk out of this thread. Let's just say what you can get the "older" LV for now is worth every penny and then some.

What about black levels, especially in comparison to the best of the competition? (The in-store demo was one of the Ocean's movies.)

It's disappointing that Paul's would take so little care, apparently, of what was their bread-and-butter.
post #2228 of 2625
We shall see. I just got off the phone with Mits CS. My A91 is being replaced with an A94. As a calibrator who views critically in a totally light controlled room I'll have the numbers as well as the eyeballs to prove it one way or another. The only downside is that I won't be taking delivery until I return to Florida in October unless I decide to make another special trip, which is possible - one of the bennies of flying free....
post #2229 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

We shall see. I just got off the phone with Mits CS. My A91 is being replaced with an A94. As a calibrator who views critically in a totally light controlled room I'll have the numbers as well as the eyeballs to prove it one way or another. The only downside is that I won't be taking delivery until I return to Florida in October unless I decide to make another special trip, which is possible - one of the bennies of flying free....

Congrats!
post #2230 of 2625
trying to decide between the Laser A91 and A94 or the 82838 or 82840.
I like the laser model but figure the new model will be out of my budget for awhile. Also weary of buying last years technology, i know most wait for the prices to drop and get them anyway, but I like to stay current with new technology. Current budget is between 3000-4000 ( including a good warreny)
Have read every thread online and seen a 82738 (wasnt impressed, but not calibrated either). Advise with decision (pics help to) is appreciated.

Scott
post #2231 of 2625
Would you guys rather have a Mitsubishi L75-A94 or JVC DLA-RS60?
post #2232 of 2625
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Originally Posted by andymnfun View Post

Would you guys rather have a Mitsubishi L75-A94 or JVC DLA-RS60?

In my room? a L75-A94 without doubt if only because a front projector simply isn't an option for me.
post #2233 of 2625
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

In my room? a L75-A94 without doubt if only because a front projector simply isn't an option for me.

What if it was?
post #2234 of 2625
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Originally Posted by BizarroTerl View Post

What if it was?

Hard to say as I'm not at all familiar with the projector you're asking about. But if front projection was an option for me, I'd certainly take a close look at the various available options. I would also most likely go with a much larger screen size if I went with front projection. But my point was that I don't see it as an entirely reasonable question to be asking as most people will make a decision between front projection or not and then go from there. So since front projection isn't an option for me, my choices were flat panel LCD, plasma, or rear projection DLP. I wanted pretty much the biggest screen I could get, so that pretty much ruled out LCD and plasma without even considering any other factors and left me with bulb or laser DLP. After looking at the bulb and laser DLP's, I felt that the 82" WD-82838 bulb DLP was the best option for me.
post #2235 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

We shall see. I just got off the phone with Mits CS. My A91 is being replaced with an A94. As a calibrator who views critically in a totally light controlled room I'll have the numbers as well as the eyeballs to prove it one way or another. The only downside is that I won't be taking delivery until I return to Florida in October unless I decide to make another special trip, which is possible - one of the bennies of flying free....

Well, I would not worry about waiting to take delivery in October, because with how slow these things have been coming out you might be getting yours weeks before anybody else
post #2236 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Martinefski View Post

Well, I would not worry about waiting to take delivery in October, because with how slow these things have been coming out you might be getting yours weeks before anybody else

LOL You might be correct. Actually, after the CS guy said they were out of A91s he continued by saying that the A94s were shipping in a week or two. It won't be long.
post #2237 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

We shall see. I just got off the phone with Mits CS. My A91 is being replaced with an A94. As a calibrator who views critically in a totally light controlled room I'll have the numbers as well as the eyeballs to prove it one way or another. The only downside is that I won't be taking delivery until I return to Florida in October unless I decide to make another special trip, which is possible - one of the bennies of flying free....

Oh wow Buzz, you're getting your A91 replaced for the A94? Did I call it or what in a previous post to you? Congrats man!
post #2238 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Customer Service said that if this part(s) doesn't fix the problem they are going to give me a replacement set. This could get interesting because I won't be going back to FL until at least mid October so there is an outside chance they may have to give me a 2012 model.

Stay tuned....

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Originally Posted by TMSKILZ View Post

I hope it does resolve your issue, but you never know, maybe they replace your unit w/ their new 2011 Laservue for all your troubles!

Speaking of which I wonder if the 2011 LV will have HDMI 1.4?

Just in case anyone doubts my physic skills. I'll be taking cash for lottery ticket predictions next week.
post #2239 of 2625
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Originally Posted by TMSKILZ View Post

Oh wow Buzz, you're getting your A91 replaced for the A94? Did I call it or what in a previous post to you? Congrats man!

The Mits representative called me again this afternoon to let me know that a shipping delay until October is okay with them. Then he mentioned that there were probably a few A91s left (as if that would please me). So much for my plans to fly down to FL and take delivery a little later this summer. I'm staying put until mid October. LOL
post #2240 of 2625
Just a quick question. I noticed my A91 is one firmware update behind (11.1). So, what does the update do and is it even worth updating?
post #2241 of 2625
Looking for advice on 3D blu-ray playback for my L75-A91.

I currently have an nVidia 3D gaming PC, with Cyberlink software that will play 3D content. However, I really dislike playing through the PC because of the software and complexity of getting a decent picture.

I also have a PS3 that I usually play my blu-ray's through.

So I see three possible options:

1. Buy a Panasonic BDT310 (or 210 or 110 or 100 - does it matter?). Will all 3D blu-rays work on those? For example, will they convert side-by-side format blu-ray source to checkerboard, or does the blu-ray have to contain checkerboard source?

2, Buy the 3DC-1000. This would allow me to do 3d gaming with the PS3 too, but not really high on the priority list.

3. Go through the hassle of getting the PC software setup and calibrated. My gaming rig is a 1250w space heater, so I really try to run it only when I'm gaming (3x gtx480's).

All input is very welcome, but I am particulary interested to hear back from the professional calibrators on this forum. I'm in the Phoenix area and have been considering a pro calibration.

BTW, I'll be taking delivery of a Denon AVR-A100 next week, and plan to route all HDMI connections through it. I will also add a parallel hdmi connection directly from the gaming PC to the laservue.

Thanks in advance!
Jason
post #2242 of 2625
I have a Denon 4308 which does not let the 3D signal though so I've been contemplating switching it out--but not sure if just 3D add-on is worth it..

Anyway , I can answer question #1 and #2...

1. I have a Pany 110 and it will take any 3D disc and send it out checkerboard format to the Laservue--no conversion needed and it looks great! I believe the 210 adds Divx (who cares) and motorized door (who cares), while the 310 adds dual HDMI. The 110 is one of the best deals ever for a blu-ray since you can sell Avatar for almost as much as you pick up the unit (just over $100 or so). Even for me I have a Boxee for streaming (even lets you run 3D video through it) and my 1.3 Denon can pass the "lesser" checkerboard signal through...perfectly.

2. Mits 3D adapter: This is what you need if you hook in the PS3 cause Sony refuses to add a Checkerboard option (probably cause 3D on the LV blows the doors off any Sony display--but I digress...) I currently have my PS3 running through the adapter and straight to the TV since my receiver can't handle the frame-packed signal. You will also need this to do the same thing off your cable box. Luckily, since the A100 IS 1.4 HDMI (and I'm sure has dual HDMI out), run everything through that. Then since the adapter is known to do funky processing to ALL signals, run one HDMI out through the 3D adapter to the TV (3D input) and the other straight to the TV (2D input). Name accordingly and you should be set. FYI: Once you see MLB 11, Call of Duty, Crysis 2, Killzone 3 or Motorstorm in 3D on this size screen your priorities will change I do believe
post #2243 of 2625
I would really like to pass the PS 3D signal though my 1.3 receiver--and I believe the reason it does not is because it "forces" the 3D send in dual 1080p outputs which is too much bandwidth. If I could change that to dual 720p outputs it would probably go...but I can't figure out how to do that. The PS3 only recognizes 3D when run through "auto" mode video setup so I can't untick that and just allow 720p. Is there any way to make it think the LV can only do 720p? Is there a trick TV setting somewhere to set the resolution? Am I grabbing at straws trying anything imaginable to avoid getting another receiver just for "stupid" 3D? Absolutely
post #2244 of 2625
HELP!-looking for opinions from the LaserVue community

the guys delivered my L75-A91 today. Took my WD74734 off the pedastel and put the 91 on it. beautiful TV.

I turn in on, get the blue menu screen, and the bottom half of the scrreen is pin-cushioned on both sides, and the picture cuts off at the bottom about 4 inches from the actual bottom of the screen. It's like overhead projector that needs a keystone adjustment.

I call Mits, and of course, they have never seen this before and I get the dreaded "we will have someone call you back within 24 hours"

Here's my dillema. I called Amazon. they will pick it up and send it back to Walt's, no problem and no charge to me.

BUT, It will take 5-10 days to get the refund back on my Amazon.com card where I am getting 12 months same as cash on this purchase(I always use someone else's money whenever I can!)

There is only one of these left on Amazon.com....

SO, would you:
1.go through the Mits process of having someone come out on a service call for a brand new TV(that really bites me)
2.send it back, and take a chance that an A91 might still be available when I get the refund back from Amazon........and if it's not I might be out of luck as I am sure there are very few of these left.

any opinions would be helpful....thanks!
post #2245 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Z06_Pilot View Post



SO, would you:
1.go through the Mits process of having someone come out on a service call for a brand new TV(that really bites me)
2.send it back, and take a chance that an A91 might still be available when I get the refund back from Amazon........and if it's not I might be out of luck as I am sure there are very few of these left.

any opinions would be helpful....thanks!

If you've read my last few posts why wouldn't you go through the Mitsubishi warranty process, drag your feet loooooong and slow, and maybe wind up with an A94? It's a no brainer.
post #2246 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post

[snip]... Then since the adapter is known to do funky processing to ALL signals...

What does that mean?
post #2247 of 2625
I have heard somewhere (probably in the 3D thread) that the adapter does some processing to ALL signals (even 2D)--meaning it doesn't just pass the signal through untouched like it should. Therefore a lot of people run serparate lines into their TV if they have dual-out. Can anyone confirm that is the case?
post #2248 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post

I have heard somewhere (probably in the 3D thread) that the adapter does some processing to ALL signals (even 2D)--meaning it doesn't just pass the signal through untouched like it should. Therefore a lot of people run serparate lines into their TV if they have dual-out. Can anyone confirm that is the case?

The signal adapter does not effect pass-through signals to any observable degree.
post #2249 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post
I have heard somewhere (probably in the 3D thread) that the adapter does some processing to ALL signals (even 2D)--meaning it doesn't just pass the signal through untouched like it should. Therefore a lot of people run serparate lines into their TV if they have dual-out. Can anyone confirm that is the case?
I can, and did - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=2211

Color gamut passes through relatively unscathed but grayscale is quite molested.
post #2250 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post
I can, and did - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=2211

Color gamut passes through relatively unscathed but grayscale is quite molested.
What is your source device?
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