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post #2251 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post
If you've read my last few posts why wouldn't you go through the Mitsubishi warranty process, drag your feet loooooong and slow, and maybe wind up with an A94? It's a no brainer.
There is no guarantee his set would be replaced - either with an L75-A91 or the new model. If the set can be repaired, that is usually what they will do. If you take your vehicle to an auto dealer for warranty service, they don't normally give you a new one.
post #2252 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post
What is your source device?
I use a Chroma 5 profiled from an i1Pro.
post #2253 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post
I use a Chroma 5 profiled from an i1Pro.
Not your colorimeter, your source device for your patterns. Signal generator, Bluray player, PS3, what?
post #2254 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post
Not your colorimeter, your source device for your patterns. Signal generator, Bluray player, PS3, what?
AccuPel DVG-5000 signal generator.
post #2255 of 2625
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Originally Posted by RU Geekman View Post
There is no guarantee his set would be replaced - either with an L75-A91 or the new model. If the set can be repaired, that is usually what they will do. If you take your vehicle to an auto dealer for warranty service, they don't normally give you a new one.
If they can't fix it, it will be replaced, and probably not by an A91 this late in the game. If they can fix it then there is a usable TV. No loss, only a potential gain.
post #2256 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post
AccuPel DVG-5000 signal generator.
The reason I ask, is because while the TV appears to accept both, the 3D adapter only accepts video level (16-235) RGB, and will crush blacks if fed YCbCr. I don't believe it can detect it.

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Until the DVG-5000, AccuPels have always used DVI for digital signal output. Although the units fully supported digital YCbCr output, displays would generally default to RGB, rendering the YCbCr signal unusable. With an HDMI emitter chip that communicates to the display the type of signal being transmitted, full YCbCr functionality is now fully achieved.
I know from experience that the adapter will not crush blacks with these PS3 settings, but it will with YCbCr.
Settings> Video Settings> BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI)> RGB

Settings> Display Settings> RGB Full Range (HDMI)> Limited
Did you take your before and after readings in RGB Video?

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post #2257 of 2625
HI can someone tell me what setting they have video noise for 480i channel? off, low, med or high?
post #2258 of 2625
I made those PS3 changes but the video doesn't appear to look as good using RGB--is that usually the case?

The only test equipment I have is my eyes, but there's no contest between a 3D BluRay sent from my Panasonic player direct checkerboard vs the PS3 going through the converter. The "native" send is has much more pop.

BUT, the converter is the only way to send from the PS3 so I'll take it
post #2259 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post

I made those PS3 changes but the video doesn't appear to look as good using RGB--is that usually the case?

The only test equipment I have is my eyes, but there's no contest between a 3D BluRay sent from my Panasonic player direct checkerboard vs the PS3 going through the converter. The "native" send is has much more pop.

BUT, the converter is the only way to send from the PS3 so I'll take it

They should not look different. They are simply different means of displaying the same content. Check your contrast and brightness settings, just in case.
post #2260 of 2625
Here is an article I just came across that might be of some interest to the readers of this thread.
post #2261 of 2625
I still think it was a terrible idea to merge all the laservue threads. Why not just do the same with all the mitsubishi dlp threads?
post #2262 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Martinefski View Post

I still think it was a terrible idea to merge all the laservue threads. Why not just do the same with all the mitsubishi dlp threads?

There was only one other thread and it had fewer than 40 posts.
post #2263 of 2625
Any reviews on the A94 yet?
post #2264 of 2625
Trying to decide between the WD-73838 and the L75-A91.
I've found plenty of reviews for the WD-73838, has anyone seen any on the
L75-A91???
Any input would be appreciated.
post #2265 of 2625
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Originally Posted by blake29 View Post

Trying to decide between the WD-73838 and the L75-A91.
I've found plenty of reviews for the WD-73838, has anyone seen any on the
L75-A91???
Any input would be appreciated.

There are plenty of user reviews within this thread – the overwhelming majority of which are positive. There is also a very favorable professional review on the original LaserVue model (the L65-A90) that I would be happy to e-mail you if you send me your address via PM.
post #2266 of 2625
Unless there was something magical that I did not see, the LaserVues were not really any better than the lamp sets. Without warranties these used sets are huge risks.
post #2267 of 2625
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Originally Posted by gtgray View Post

Unless there was something magical that I did not see, the LaserVues were not really any better than the lamp sets. Without warranties these used sets are huge risks.

I agree on both counts.
post #2268 of 2625
Never buy used electronics.
post #2269 of 2625
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Originally Posted by RU Geekman View Post
Never buy used electronics.
I completely disagree with that sort of a blanket statement, especially coming from someone who has a very vested interest in the customer purchasing new equipment. I've bought plenty of used electronic equipment over the years and had excellent results doing so, but one needs to be careful about what they buy and who they buy it from.

That said, I would be very leery of purchasing a used LaserVue TV from a big vendor like Amazon, especially if it didn't include a warranty.
post #2270 of 2625
I have not had good luck buying someone else's cast offs. Your mileage may vary.
post #2271 of 2625
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Originally Posted by RU Geekman View Post

There was only one other thread and it had fewer than 40 posts.

Fancy that, at the time you had these threads merged the A94 had not even been released! Even now they are still not out in very large quantities and not one person has posted about owning one yet, so I totally see your reasoning.

I mean seriously I can't believe I would have to explain why it would be better to have separate threads for these TV's, especially considering the rather major changes done to it. Although for some reason you don't consider a new screen and several built in features from previous models to be all that different???
post #2272 of 2625
Obviously, the mods disagree with you.
post #2273 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Yes, the adapter processes even when the signal is 2D pass through. Look at this calibration chart and see how grayscale is contaminated.

Before = Signal > LV HDMI2
After = Signal > Adapter > LV HDMI2

I get around this by inputting everything into a 3D capable receiver and outputting from the receiver to a HDMI splitter. Normal content runs from the splitter to HDMI1 and 3D is from the splitter to the adapter to HDMI2.

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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

I can, and did - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=2211

Color gamut passes through relatively unscathed but grayscale is quite molested.

Did you take your before and after readings in RGB Video or YCbCr?
post #2274 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Martinefski View Post

Fancy that, at the time you had these threads merged the A94 had not even been released! Even now they are still not out in very large quantities and not one person has posted about owning one yet, so I totally see your reasoning.

I mean seriously I can’t believe I would have to explain why it would be better to have separate threads for these TV’s, especially considering the rather major changes done to it. Although for some reason you don’t consider a new screen and several built in features from previous models to be all that different???

Not quite sure where you are coming from. I am a member, just like you. I am not the moderator. I do not have the authority to merge threads. I was simply commenting on what had happened. I am absolutely positive that some L74-A94 sets will be turning up in a few days.
post #2275 of 2625
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Originally Posted by augerhandle View Post

did you take your before and after readings in rgb video or ycbcr?

4:4:4
post #2276 of 2625
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Originally Posted by RU Geekman View Post

The L75-A94 will start to ship next week. You can send me a PM or click on the link in my signature below for more details. Note: To avoid redundancies, the "2011 Mitsubishi Laservue L75-A94 official thread" has been consolidated within this thread. It makes no sense to have separate discussions going on, since both predecessor models (L65-A90 and L75-A91) have so many features in common and utilize the same basic technology as the L75-A94. For a quick overview of what's new for 2011, see my above post #2189.

I guess this post gave me the impression you did the consolidation. Sorry for the false assumption.
post #2277 of 2625
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

4:4:4

The 3D adapter only accepts video level (16-235) RGB, and will crush blacks if fed YCbCr.
post #2278 of 2625
I finally now have a Panasonic BluRay player (110) and the Mits 3d Adapter, so I can do a direct comparison between native Checkerboard and "Full" 3D via the adapter to the LV. Interesting results. Using "Grand Canyon Adventure" 3D disc amazing intro with the water splashes, there is a definite resolution difference between Checkerboard and Full. Full is definitely sharper at that huge screen size but it appears the 3D is better in Checkerboard. Also, the black level seems more in tune with what it should be going direct Checkerboard (possibly no surprise since the the Pany defaults to the Yb mode).

My question since I'm sure quite a few of you have a Pany (Checkerboard) player attached to the LV: Do you use Checkerboard or the adapted Full version for output? If Full version, what do you have the settings at? The main ones are a "lighter/darker" black level switch, the "3D button" custom picture adjustments (with -5 to +3 distance)--and of course the 4 HDMI colorspace modes (2-Yb @ 4:4:4 and 4:4:2 and 2-RGB @ Standard and Limited). I know for the PS3, the mode needs to be changed to RGB to satisfy the adapter, but does the same go for the Pany BluRay? If so, which RGB mode?

Speaking of the PS3, how can a 4 year old 1.3 HDMI device send out frame-packed (1.4) 3D that frustratingly won't pass through my receiver!? It must have something to do with borrowing the audio bandwidth (only lossy codecs in 3D) for the hi-rez video... Oh those wizards at Sony--but it would've been nice if they just incorporated "1.3" 3D versions (side by side and checkerboard) and kept the lossless audio. That sound is a big part of the new games. AND I wouldn't have to worry about getting another receiver just because of 3D.
post #2279 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Martinefski View Post

I guess this post gave me the impression you did the consolidation. Sorry for the false assumption.

No flag, no foul. Apology accepted.
post #2280 of 2625
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post
)--and of course the 4 HDMI colorspace modes (2-Yb @ 4:4:4 and 4:4:2 and 2-RGB @ Standard and Limited). I know for the PS3, the mode needs to be changed to RGB to satisfy the adapter, but does the same go for the Pany BluRay? If so, which RGB mode?
I believe the post before yours would suggest RGB Limited.
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