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post #241 of 2625
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Originally Posted by spp88 View Post

Wow. LV, love it or hate it! What to think.

I've been lurking for awhile but need to make a decision soon so here is the background to the bottom line question. 15 years ago I bought a Pioneer Elite RP after reading a review that concluded: "If you can afford this TV, buy it!" I never regretted buying it in spite of the insane price.

Now I need a 55-65 inch set for a room with a lot of uncontrollable ambient light. Still, I want the best picture I can get for these conditions. That is why the LV is on the top of my list. Plasmas and the Samsung LCD's are so reflective I can't imagine I would be happy. The Sony LCD's have a more muted reflectivity, so they are a possibility. Any other suggestions?

Till now I have never seen a DLP that I really liked. I will see a LV at a store tomorrow but I am never satisfied with an in-store demo, especially since the salesman will probably know little but won't admit it.

I would think (hope) that most of the new technology gremlins would be solved by now, but boy is solid information hard to come by. This forum is the best I've found so far, but it sometimes is hard to sort out those with real knowledge from those who seem to have some other agenda.

So, to the LV owners and techies who have had their hands on one, here is the question: If I can afford it, should I buy it?

Thx in advance.

Follow-up: Saw the set at KC, right next to a giant diamond series. The Celine Dion concert video Blu-Ray they were playing didn't wow me: I thought the reds on the LV were overpowering/oversaturated on the LV compared to the other set. Took over the remote from the clueless sales guy and re-set the LV from Brilliant to Natural and the colors calmed down, maybe a touch too much, but the set was then at ;east as good at the other sets around. Popped in my Dark Knight Blu-Ray (Denon 1610 player). Wow. Everything was as it should be, a step better than on my son's Samsung LN46A750 LCD. The first scene where the window is shattered in the building, you could see more dark detail in the black window reflections than on the Samsung. Later the clown masks were as good as I can imagine. Changed to Brilliant and even Bright and everything was a variation of a great picture. So, with a great source comes a great picture.

Unfortunately stttupid KC only had an antenna feed for broadcast, so did not see sports which is a must before I buy. Saw SD and HD channels with who knows how many splitters on the way. I would rate the pictures as good in Natural mode, with over-saturated colors in Brilliant, compared to whatever the diamond series setting were. Not sure where this LV set is on a calibration scale, but decided I would neither eliminate nor select the LV on the basis of this viewing. On to different stores where hopefully I can find a better source for broadcast material. At home I have Verizon FIOS so any set I buy will get a strong, non-noisy signal.
post #242 of 2625
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Originally Posted by spp88 View Post

Wow. LV, love it or hate it! What to think.

I've been lurking for awhile but need to make a decision soon so here is the background to the bottom line question. 15 years ago I bought a Pioneer Elite RP after reading a review that concluded: "If you can afford this TV, buy it!" I never regretted buying it in spite of the insane price.

Now I need a 55-65 inch set for a room with a lot of uncontrollable ambient light. Still, I want the best picture I can get for these conditions. That is why the LV is on the top of my list. Plasmas and the Samsung LCD's are so reflective I can't imagine I would be happy. The Sony LCD's have a more muted reflectivity, so they are a possibility. Any other suggestions?

Till now I have never seen a DLP that I really liked. I will see a LV at a store tomorrow but I am never satisfied with an in-store demo, especially since the salesman will probably know little but won't admit it.

I would think (hope) that most of the new technology gremlins would be solved by now, but boy is solid information hard to come by. This forum is the best I've found so far, but it sometimes is hard to sort out those with real knowledge from those who seem to have some other agenda.

So, to the LV owners and techies who have had their hands on one, here is the question: If I can afford it, should I buy it?

Thx in advance.

Better off with a good lcd or plasma. If you can't find one that you like, consider the MITS Diamond series dlp. I've seen them next to a LV and for the money a much better buy.
post #243 of 2625
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Originally Posted by spp88 View Post

Wow. LV, love it or hate it! What to think.

I've been lurking for awhile but need to make a decision soon so here is the background to the bottom line question. 15 years ago I bought a Pioneer Elite RP after reading a review that concluded: "If you can afford this TV, buy it!" I never regretted buying it in spite of the insane price.

Now I need a 55-65 inch set for a room with a lot of uncontrollable ambient light. Still, I want the best picture I can get for these conditions.

Thx in advance.

Uncontrollable light is the key to your question. You need a non-reflective screen and high light output. The Sony 55XBR8 is probably the best fit, cost being no object. The other choice is a Mits DLP, like the 65737. It is bigger, cheaper, very bright and its average black level, its main drawback, isn't that important in a bright room.

Whether the laservue is really better than the lamp based sets is open to debate, but as a value proposition the laservue doesn't justify the cost.
post #244 of 2625
Following the theme of this being an owners thread, this is my feedback. I have owned this set for 3 weeks and have no regrets.

Some brief details:
A. System: Verizon FIOS HDMI fed thru and upscaled by a Denon 4308CI with an alternate component video and audio feed directly from the FIOS box in case I don't want to use the Denon. Also a Sony BDP-N460 fed thru the Denon.

B. My set is uncalibrated. Built in August. None of the flaws mentioned earlier by other owners appear in my set. Not sure yet if I will have it calibrated.

C. My room is very bright during the day. For a bright room, the LV is a great solution. No screen reflection, very bright picture. I use the Bright setting with small adjustments to contrast and color level, with noise and motion flow settings off. Sports show no movement artifacts. Mostly I find the picture absolutely great, but notice different channels/feeds/programs seem to deliver differing color levels so in some cases the primaries pop more than I'd like. In Brilliant mode, they can be over the top, but Bright is OK.

D. At night I use the Natural mode, again with small adjustments to suit my eye. The channel color differences appear smaller on this setting. Mostly I am amazed at the picture. Perhaps if I was able to see a side-by-side with a top plasma or LCD I might have a more critical opinion, but that would only last until I saw a reflection in their glossy screens.

E. In all modes, the Blu-Ray feed results in a fantastic picture with moderate difference in color saturation. I still prefer Bright for day and Natural for night over Brilliant which to my eye is over-saturated regardless of ambient light.

F. Had a frustration. The Video settings (Brilliant/Bright/Natural) would reset to default every time the set was turned off. Talked to the Mits tech. It seems this was a software glitch when using the AVR Input setting. Mits sent a software update that fixed it. Temp fix is to re-label the Input to something other than AVR. The software version shows on the lower right of the Menu screen. 010-04 is the fix.

G. Question: Do others notice the color "pop" variation between different TV channels or programs? Is the a FIOS only issue? Is this noticeable on other HDTV's or is it related to the LV's color gamut? Are there adjustments to manage this phenomenon?
post #245 of 2625
I too am a new owner have had my TV 3 weeks now also and love it for the most part mine also shows a mfg date of July 09 and doesn't yet show any issues like some have said the bright light on lower screen. Im hoping I have a second generation. I actually thought the place I bought it from was going to send me the floor model as I got a great deal on it I checked their floor model and that said Oct 09 so I'm hoping like I said I have a second generation. The only thing I don't like is the fact that the TV weighs almost 140lbs didn't realize it until delivery and I was thinking about wall mounting it although Mitsu sells a bracket I'm reluctant to do that because of the weight. All In all I love it and am thinking about a professional calibration but for now that's not in the budget. I tried to do it myself with the calibration Disc but it didn't make too much difference, just in contrast and brightness so I left the others as they were. Lets keep this Laser Vue forum going I need info and owner experience!! Talk to ya soon!! BV
post #246 of 2625
If you don't mind us asking, did you pay anywhere near the original 7k asking price, or has it come down a tad by now?

Seggers
post #247 of 2625
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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

If you don't mind us asking, did you pay anywhere near the original 7k asking price, or has it come down a tad by now?

Seggers

In LA the posted price was 5K when I looked at two stores in Oct. I paid 4.5. before tax, including free delivery & haul away of my old monster RP set. Of course this is still a hefty premium over other Mits RP sets. Nevertheless, I remain a very happy LV customer for reasons stated in my post above.
post #248 of 2625
I too payed too also paid under 4K with delivery and taxes, old TV Mitsu RPTV sold for $100 lucky to get that. Ive had the TV for over a month now and love it I have calibrated it myself with the Spears and Muncil Disc don't see too much difference, may opt for professional calibration that's just too expensive right now. Only thing I don't like about the TV and didn't really research the fact, that its a heavy TV 141.5 lbs other than that still tweaking and learning, I think Mitsubishi should throw in a free calibration or a coupon towards the fee being there are so many few owners and they would like to get the set out there? I wish, LOL thanks BV e
post #249 of 2625
I found one for under 4K as well.

Great picture, color, and depth. No burn-in worry or brightness loss over time.

Totally happy owner so far.
post #250 of 2625
I have had my Laser TV for a month now with no issues EXCEPT I see the dresded light at the bottom of the screen that has been postred on this forum before, It is so slight and so small that right now Ill just watch to see if it gets bigger? See the internet and this forum as well as the others I visit for my Harley, My Volvo, are sometimes dangerous as they put an Idea in your mind and you imagine things some real some? and there are people Im sure that have this problem with their Laser Vue worse than others!
Anyways I called the Mitsubishi Laser View premier Club for Laser Owners and talked to a tech named Mike who claimed that all TV's DLP LCD have this and its a normal thing and although there have only been a few issues with this and a few owners calling in he felt it was something that is a normal occurrence some worse than others and right now my ser # puts my TV in late summer 09 Production and it was in the 1100's so that Mitsu has made over 1100 of these to date. He further said to take a photo and e mail it to him and he would have the design team look it over, he didnt sound too concerned. I explained that at $7000 for a TV set I expect it to be perfect!! We'll see Ill send him the photos but the light emitting on the bottom of the screen is so small I doubt they will do anything! Maybe I should have called the retailer as the TV is only one month old? Bill
post #251 of 2625
Take it back and get another one. Although I don't the LaserVue, if my 73835 had developed that kind of fault, it would have been replaced. Light leakage anywhere on the screen is not normal and should not be tolerated....

Seggers
post #252 of 2625
So I've been without a TV for almost 2 years now (it was difficult!) And ever since my set burned out, I've been reading about the LVs, but I wasn't willing to pull the $7k trigger. With dropped pricing, I've finally decided to take the plunge! I was wondering if any of you knew the start date for the manufacture of the 2nd Gens?
post #253 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Poorman Theater View Post

So I've been without a TV for almost 2 years now (it was difficult!) And ever since my set burned out, I've been reading about the LVs, but I wasn't willing to pull the $7k trigger. With dropped pricing, I've finally decided to take the plunge! I was wondering if any of you knew the start date for the manufacture of the 2nd Gens?

Has it officially been announced if they will even have a 2nd generation??
post #254 of 2625
I don't know. I was just going by what daharleyrdr said:

"Im hoping I have a second generation. I actually thought the place I bought it from was going to send me the floor model as I got a great deal on it I checked their floor model and that said Oct 09 so I'm hoping like I said I have a second generation."
post #255 of 2625
What I meant was the second generation, the time that they initally stopped making the Laser TVs then Mitsu started to ship again I was under the impression that there was a second generation. Im not so sure? Ive had mine since mid November and no issues at all, even the bright light issue at the bottom of the screen hasnt appeared knoc wood!! Thanks Bill
post #256 of 2625
Hopefully we'll see the new, larger models this Spring! A81/91
post #257 of 2625
We got our LaserVue TV last week. Great picture quality!!! We have the same problem of the rising sun, but after a week it doesn't seem to bother us as much. However what is very annoying is the fan noise. It wasn't that bad at the beginning but now after a week we can hear at times a higher fan noise with a higher pitch. A TV repairman came to our house and told us that it was normal. (Of course when he came the fan wasn't acting that way.) He even said that these Tvs have more than one fan and when the tv gets hot there will more fans working and making more noise. His previous experience with these tvs is pretty limited, maybe he has seen one before coming to our house. Is anybody experiencing the same problem? Is it too much to ask not to have to pump the volume to 16 so we won't hear the fan in a $4,000 TV? We purchased the TV from Amazon and we can return it with no fees. Any recommendations? Do we a have a defective TV? Should we wait for new generation?
Thanks, Carmen
post #258 of 2625
I would not have thought fan noise would be a problem on the LaserVues. It's not even a problem on the bulb-based Mits anymore, and those use 50% more power (tho to be fair, the LVs do have less depth/volume to them). Telling you it's normal sounds like BS to me, only moderately excused by the fact that he didn't hear it himself. You probably need the fans replaced would be my guess. Is the set encased in some kind of close-fitting entertainment center that would work against heat disbursing away from the set? That could be a possible explanation as well (as it might cause the fans to kick up to another level as heat builds up).
post #259 of 2625
I have heard my fan once: TV was muted and I was working on the wires behind the cabinet. I'm thinking you have a bad fan or a loosely mounted one. Call the Laservue hotline number that is in the manual and on the Laservue Premier web site. I had really good service when I called..the set needed a firmware update which was promptly handled. Good luck.
post #260 of 2625
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Originally Posted by paul416 View Post

Has it officially been announced if they will even have a 2nd generation??

I was reading a news blurb about some big mits trailer with new TVs in it. They seemed to think some new TVs would be out in the summer although they didn't say what sizes would be available or if they would have new Laservues (I would hope smaller and larger models).
post #261 of 2625
Nothing from Mit about 2nd-gen Laser TVs from CES 2010, so i would assume there will not be any released this year.

I am torn between the Laservue & Panasonic's newly announced Viera 3D sets (VT25 series).
post #262 of 2625
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Originally Posted by TMSKILZ View Post

Nothing from Mit about 2nd-gen Laser TVs from CES 2010, so i would assume there will not be any released this year.

I am torn between the Laservue & Panasonic's newly announced Viera 3D sets (VT25 series).

LOTS of people (in this thread in fact) have stated over and over that Mitsubishi *NEVER* announces their new lineup at CES. They ALWAYS announce it in April --- usually the first week of April.

So all this conjecture about no new TVs is just plain silly since it isn't April yet. I'm sure everyone will know then 2010 lineup in about 2-3 weeks time, so lets all be patient.
post #263 of 2625
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Originally Posted by recoil View Post

LOTS of people (in this thread in fact) have stated over and over that Mitsubishi *NEVER* announces their new lineup at CES. They ALWAYS announce it in April --- usually the first week of April.

So all this conjecture about no new TVs is just plain silly since it isn't April yet. I'm sure everyone will know then 2010 lineup in about 2-3 weeks time, so lets all be patient.

I agree that a few more weeks should tell, but here is something that might give a clue for those of us who like to speculate. Just got the new S+V magazine, the April/May 2010 edition. Check out page #21 .A full page ad for MITS picturing their 82837 and touting 3-D. Not a mention of Laservue. In the very fine print on the bottom of the ad there is only mention of DLP and 3-D, no Laservue. HMMMMMMMMMMM
post #264 of 2625
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Originally Posted by recoil View Post

LOTS of people (in this thread in fact) have stated over and over that Mitsubishi *NEVER* announces their new lineup at CES. They ALWAYS announce it in April --- usually the first week of April.

So all this conjecture about no new TVs is just plain silly since it isn't April yet. I'm sure everyone will know then 2010 lineup in about 2-3 weeks time, so lets all be patient.

I'm willing to put up my house as collateral & state that Mits will not announce 2nd-Gen Laservue HDTVs in April or @ any point this year. Seems that technology is dead.

P.S. Just kidding about my house for collateral. But maybe my wife instead?
post #265 of 2625
You could be right, but I'm sure they will announce their 2010 lineup in April. If Laservue isn't in that lineup, then that's a good sign of things to come.

Pass on the wife. I've already got too many people telling me what to do.
post #266 of 2625
I live in Las Vegas and my niece works in NY City as a marketing rep for iRiver. She comes to CES every year and we hang out. This year I got smart and arranged tickets for my wife and myself to visit her booth. She ended up being just feet from the Mitsubishi double-wide trailer display. We spent forever in line waiting to get inside the display and when they let us in it was 3-D and only 3-D that they were pushing. I asked about the LaserVue (being a true believer) and they told us it was on the other side. After squeezing past all the fat nerds in their smelly T-shirts & jeans we finally found the LaserVue - LAST OF ALL THE DISPLAYS! They were showing the Alice in Wonderland trailer over and over and we donned the glasses to watch.

My opinion? Meh. After all the promotional hype when I finally saw the thing in action I was asking myself where's the beef? It looked no better than any of the other - much larger - Mitsubishis I'd seen. It looked terrible compared (in my mind) to the Pioneer Kuro at my local retailer. Maybe it was the 3-D crap they were playing but I was terribly underwhelmed.

Me? I am going to save my pesos for a decent front projector (to replace my ancient InFocus unit).
post #267 of 2625
so haven't seen any mention in this thread or articles on the net about the PC capabilities of this TV.

What is the max resolution?
1:1 overscan?
curious as to how it handles as a PC monitor.

How does the 3D work? Seems one has to purchase & dish out extra $ for the NVida 3D package which only comes w/ 1 pair of glasses.
post #268 of 2625
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Originally Posted by TMSKILZ View Post

I'm willing to put up my house as collateral & state that Mits will not announce 2nd-Gen Laservue HDTVs in April or @ any point this year. Seems that technology is dead.

P.S. Just kidding about my house for collateral. But maybe my wife instead?

i'll take your wife on that bet.
post #269 of 2625
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Originally Posted by Hipnotiq View Post

i'll take your wife on that bet.


Hehehehehehe. I'm not married.
post #270 of 2625
If it is like that then the Lasevue do not work well on 3D; I was going to buy one with the 73" size but I think that mits. going to sell what ever inventory is there and goodbye Laservue like the Kuro. Well it was a good try.
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