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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Energy 5.1
Onkyo SKS-HT240
Polk RM75
Klipsch Quintet SL
Klipsch Synergy Quintet III
Mirage Nanosat® 5.1
JBL CS6100BG

Not trying to start a flame war, just need some speakers for my new pioneer 5020fd tv. I dont have time to do anything other than superficial research on CNET. My budget is under 500 for a 5.1 set. The cheaper the better. I will probably get a $200 or $300 receiver (yamaha or onkyo) Thanks.
post #2 of 22
I don't think you understand the importance, or benefit of good audio. You spent good money getting one of the best tv's out there, and your looking for pretty basic audio. Possibly you should adjust your perception. Lets say your thirty years old. In the next 25 years you'll probably own 3 cars, pretty big purchases. You'll probably buy 2 or 3 more tv's. Most people don't think of audio as a long term investment, but it can be. I'd bet you listen to more music, and watch more movies in your house on your stereo system than you do in your car. Would you like to have good quality audio when you do that? than you may want to consider upping your budget. The pioneer TV will certainly give you great picture. The qustion is do you want better than TV sound, or do you want Movie Theater quality sound.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
are you telling me to get nothing vs. these entry level audio options? i'm not spending more than 1k on audio
post #4 of 22
let me ask a couple questions.
What kind of quality are you looking for?
What kind of music do you like?
Do you have blu ray?
What kind of movies do you life?
What do you want out of a home theater system?
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by smcilwaine287 View Post

let me ask a couple questions.
What kind of quality are you looking for?
What kind of music do you like?
Do you have blu ray?
What kind of movies do you life?
What do you want out of a home theater system?

I'm looking for the best audio system under 1k to replace my new tv speakers. I watch sports, dramas, reality tv, action movies, documentaries (planet earth). I dont own any music CDs but i like rap, classic rock, and top 40. I just bought the panasonic blu ray BD35. thanks


Here are my last netflix picks:
Hancock
Spider-Man 3
Gorillas in the Mist
Juno
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Planet Earth
Ray
Grace Is Gone
Evolution: Disc 2
Encounters at the End of the World
Planet B-Boy
Gone Baby Gone
post #6 of 22
Let me change JBLCS6100BG to JBL PROJECT ARRAY 1000?This pairs is the best second to PROJECT K2 and EVEREST.
post #7 of 22
Well I don't know whether you know or not, blu ray offers "uncompressed audio" or dolby truehd/dts-hd audio formats. Receivers that can handle that can also use HDMI for audio and video. Keep in mind, most receivers that don't have that may still have HDMI, but for video only.

So you probably want a receiver that can do that, a decent one will cost you $500 at that price point. By the time you get an extra HDMI cable for 150 bucks to go from the receiver to the tv, 50 dollars worth of speaker wire. that leaves you with 300 dollars for speakers. Plan on installing it yourself or getting it installed?
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by smcilwaine287 View Post

Well I don't know whether you know or not, blu ray offers "uncompressed audio" or dolby truehd/dts-hd audio formats. Receivers that can handle that can also use HDMI for audio and video. Keep in mind, most receivers that don't have that may still have HDMI, but for video only.

So you probably want a receiver that can do that, a decent one will cost you $500 at that price point. By the time you get an extra HDMI cable for 150 bucks to go from the receiver to the tv, 50 dollars worth of speaker wire. that leaves you with 300 dollars for speakers. Plan on installing it yourself or getting it installed?

No, i'm not aware of those technical details. It seems like many novices on amazon are "happy" with their $300 receivers. I am a novice and do not want to become a tortured audiophile soul. Experts, please help me work within my budget!
post #9 of 22
I suggest you stretch your budget a bit and get the Yamaha RX-V663 or the Onkyo TX-SR606. Both are around $350.

EDIT: For the speakers, it would be best to audition as much as you can with local dealers.
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by blued888 View Post

I suggest you stretch your budget a bit and get the Yamaha RX-V663 or the Onkyo TX-SR606. Both are around $350.

yeah, these receivers are on my list. what about speaker recommendations?
post #11 of 22
ok, so enjoy your blu ray player that you paid for that you won't be using half the function. I would recommend the klipsch quintet iii. The klipsch sub-10. And after you buy those, get the best receiver you can for whatever will keep you under 1k.

so why did you buy the pioneer? it actually comes with a pretty decent soundbar type deal.
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by boobird View Post

yeah, these receivers are on my list. what about speaker recommendations?

How much are you looking to spend on speakers?
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by blued888 View Post

how much are you looking to spend on speakers?

<$500
post #14 of 22
None of the speaker packages you're looking at stand out as being better than the other...

How about:
2 pair Energy C-50: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENC50
1 Energy C-C50: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENCC50
Energy 8" sub: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENESW8
or
Energy 10" sub: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENESW

You can buy them from that site or through Amazon.com. They will be cheaper and give you a richer sound than the little speakers you're looking at. These are on closeout so the price is good.

KEF are also at a good price right now.
Front & rear x 2: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...-iq1-black-ash
Center: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...iq2c-black-ash

You can find a decent sub for around $230, but maybe over your budget.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by ickysmits View Post

You can find a decent sub for around $230, but maybe over your budget.

You can go for Energy as mentioned. I would suggest you go for bookshelves at least. Satellites, IMO, sound very thin.

For around $230 I think you can pick up a PA-120 subwoofer.
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ickysmits View Post

None of the speaker packages you're looking at stand out as being better than the other...

How about:
2 pair Energy C-50: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENC50
1 Energy C-C50: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENCC50
Energy 8" sub: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENESW8
or
Energy 10" sub: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENESW

You can buy them from that site or through Amazon.com. They will be cheaper and give you a richer sound than the little speakers you're looking at. These are on closeout so the price is good.

KEF are also at a good price right now.
Front & rear x 2: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...-iq1-black-ash
Center: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...iq2c-black-ash

You can find a decent sub for around $230, but maybe over your budget.

Thanks! Vanns.com has the C-100 for 30 bucks more. Is that a significant upgrade from the c-50 ?
post #17 of 22
Yes, it’s a very nice upgrade from the C-50. The only problem is finding the C-C100 center speaker as it has sold out most places. Audioadvisor.com has cherry but not black finish to match the C-100’s at Vanns. You could use the C-C50 center speaker just fine, but I think it would be nicer to keep things even and have 5.5" woofers across the front.

eBay is the only option for the black C-C100 at this point.

You could also buy an extra set of C-100 bookshelf speakers and use one for the center - but not everyone has the space to accommodate the height.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by boobird View Post

Thanks! Vanns.com has the C-100 for 30 bucks more. Is that a significant upgrade from the c-50 ?

Not much of a difference if you're gonna be using a subwoofer and setting the crossover to 80Hz. Remember you're gonna be buying stands for the bookshelves.
post #19 of 22
Maybe if you only use them for movies and not stereo music. The build quality on these Energy speakers is very nice for the price. You can put them furniture if you want - they're bookshelf speakers and I doubt the OP really cares about any gain from speaker stands. They're able to accept wall mount brackets like these if needed: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATMAC
post #20 of 22
Hey boobird,

I started out very much like you. I expected to get great movie theatre sound for under $1000. I thought I was going for something good considering there are so many HTIB for half that. So I was doing way better and should have no problem.

I decided to get a good set of fronts with my money and save and add along the way. I think a good stereo setup will blow away most HTIM surround sound systems.

I bought a Denon 2309 for $599. You could go for something cheaper and still get a good receiver. Add something like these speakers http://www.axiomaudio.com/m22.html
and you'll have great sound and add later.

If you got those from their Outlet Store and their smallest sub, you're at about $800. Get a $400 receiver and you'll have a eally great system . You could even get a Polk sub (PSW505) for half the price of the Axiom and keep you in your $1000 budget.

You can get a cheap set of surrounds in the near future and go without a center channel for quite a while. With a good set of fronts you can obtain something called a "phantom center" where you'll hardly miss a center and can add that way down the road when you have more money.

I tried to stay within your budget for your initial purpose. It's very easy to spend other people's money. Many here might have already gone inexpensive to stay within a low budget only to wish they had a better system. Buying all over again later just costs more in the end. Anyway for me, I thought it worth to get the better quality fronts and worry about the rest later. Hope that helps a little.
post #21 of 22
Great tv and great Blu-Ray. You won't get much for speakers with that budget. To save a few $$$ and get a good receiver, consider getting a refurbished unit from some of the places mentioned on here, like accessories4less. They have good deals on several brands, including the onkyo's. On the speaker side, maybe you should consider getting some used ones from audiogon/videogon. First, though, you need to go out and start listening to speakers and find out what you like.
post #22 of 22
I am acutally in the same boat. There is no doubt about it, I do realize that I will get better, fuller sound out of larger speakers, but the fact is, I just don't have the space in my basement. If I got the large speakers sure I would have great sound, but I wouldn't have space in my basement to reach around an scratch which all men should do in their man cave.

I am planning on getting one of these 5.1 system. I was looking at the mirage Nanostat 5.1. At the end the day when you are moving up from 27 inch sharp tube tv. Any speaker will sound better. Heck my cheap a$$ cpu speakers sound better than my TV. So I think I will be very satisfied with my set up for a few years.
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