Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28
well i will say this if you don't like denon you're wasting your time going with marantz, d&m holdings owns both saying that you'll end up with the same amp whether it be a denon or a marantz branded amp, so the options you got is yamaha, onkyo or sony so you don't have much of a choice..
out of all the amps denon's are likely going to be the best, in the terms of faultless connection quality when it comes to hdmi..
onkyos can be robust amp which can handle a higher quality speaker..
marantz is probably the best with the best for audio reproduction..
yamaha's are a good amp though in the entry to mid level amps tend to be mediocre at best, unless you start talking about their highend and flagship amps and receivers, the 11.3 system is the 1 to watch though price tends to be out of reach for most..
the 7.2 muteki system might suck with the current speakers its supplied with though with an update on the speakers, it's not a bad amp considering it's price.
denon amps seem to to be the best all around amp at any level of budget, in the realms of ht however then that everyone seems to try and emulate their success, with a varying degree of pluses and minuses over the other co's try aspire to denon's quality but then fall well short, admittedly denon's can be a bitch to setup though once it's done it you will not need to do a thing...
you'll find most amps you will buy will run hot, as some will run hotter that others, that's a given considering of the the internals some of them have...
While it's true that D&M does own both Denon and Marantz, they have entirely different and separate design teams. BTW, D&M is trying to sell one or both brands.
As hard as I've tried, I've yet to see any sharing of components, either. There might be. I just haven't been able to find them. About the only thing in common between the two is they both use Audyssey.
So, it's safe to say, they are as different from each other as Pioneer is from Yamaha.
Denons are best? Depends on what you're trying to do. Others aspire to Denon's quality? Who is? Yamaha? Pioneer? Those are two brands that have rock solid reputations for both build and reliability. As does Marantz.
I don't think you'll find many who think the Yamaha Z series, Pioneer's Elite series, or even Marantz's upper level SR series to be mediocre or entry level, in any way.
Point being, all these manufacturer's have products at several price points. The further up the scale, the better the amp sections, the more connection types, the more processing capability.
Not to say Denon isn't respected. They are. Plenty of people own them. The OP ruled them out, however.
I'll stay out of the Onkyo debate. I had one (805). It in no way had glitch free operation. Nor, did it offer anything near what I'd consider acceptable power for HT applications in mid-large installations. 90x maybe? But, that's out of the price range of the OP. Plus, I feel there are better solutions for the same price.