Originally Posted by Orta
I respect your opinion and can understand that some people prefer games to look exaggerated, but honestly, Game Mode (on these models) is basically a text book example of an altered source. Edge enhancement is ON, sharpness is well beyond the point where it starts introducing artifacts, dynamic contrast features are employed, and it's way beyond accepted calibrated
brightness levels (though admittedly you can fix this with power savings). Ultimately, lot of these HD games cost 10's of millions of dollars to develop (the biggest arguably beyond 100--GTA, FF, KZ2), so it seems silly to assume they don't adhere to video standards and at least aim for some semblance of accuracy.
Originally Posted by DaverJ
Thanks for the respectful rebuttal Orta, and I'll admit you might
If it was a movie
I would be cringing
at a vibrant, overly sharp presentation -- but thinking about my favorite games: Pong, Atari Adventure, Donkey Kong, Dragon's Lair, Marios, Zeldas, DiabloII, God of War, Burnout: Takedown, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, Gears of War 2, etc.., I think I do
prefer games to look "exaggerated".
Originally Posted by Orta
I was just referring to Game Mode, and in a sense, I was comparing games to movies. Like Daver pointed out, he would cringe if he used Game Mode for a movie--that was exactly my point. Games are reaching a similar level of video quality where the directors and designers have a vision of what they want it to look like, and just like a movie, image enhancing features and blown out settings destroy that.
Orta is 100% right regarding PC mode vs. Game mode. Game mode does apply the image processing he referred to. It's easy to see when you have a HTPC and can easily see what pixel-perfect is supposed
to look like. You can see the effect of this mode using edge enhancement/sharpness easily on text, and other small, well-defined images while using Game Mode. Color is also altered to add artificial pop, etc. Using the HDMI2/PC + rename trick should result in the truEST picture from the source. If i see halos, ringing, aliasing/"jagging", or other artifacting that I DON'T see vs. my 24" widescreen LCD monitor (which does not do image enhancment processing like an HDTV), then it's not true to the source. Point being, Game Mode does indeed add sharpness/edge enhancement and a load of processing to the table, vs. just seeing the raw source as intented.
What you are falling for with the "game mode" setting is probably the added edge enhancement and sharpness. However, these particular enhancements are actual going to add artifacts and the number of "jaggies" will appear to actually increase. This is not true to the source. But, if it suits you, then that is what's ultimately important.
Just remember: Just because it looks sharper that way, doesn't mean it's supposed
Surely you can now conclude that Game Mode has more lag vs. the HDMI2/PC trick because... of the additional processing
Game Mode is a toss-up. It performs certain image enhancement processing to the incoming signal, but not to the degree of the other modes. Hence LESS lag, but still SOME. On the other hand, since the HDMI2/PC + rename trick does ZERO processing to the signal (or very little..more on that in a second), there is very, very little lag. Unnoticeable unless you are such earlier-said cyborg. Seriously. ~10ms or less
of lag? You shouldn't feel that. Lol.
As to why there is still lag via HDMI2/PC + rename trick, I would have to conclude it is either still doing a very slight amount of image enhancement processing...if not, then that explanation is beyond me at this point.
But considering the fact that LCD monitors themselves are inherently slower/laggier with a digital connection (HDMI/DVI) vs. analogue (VGA), I don't think it's that much of a different reason.
I just finished reading this entire thread. Very, VERY good experimentation and research done here with what you guys have to work with. I like the level of intelligence in this thread. I want to say a big THANK YOU to the OP and all the posters who have contributed to this so constructively.