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Signal Strength Jumping

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hello,
I am currently using only OTA to get my HD. Today I noticed while watching one of my stations that is usually one of the best ones (based on signal strength). I noticed that i was getting quite a few of drop outs - not just the pixelated screen but all the way to 'searching for a signal'. So I turned on my tivo HD's signal meter. The odd thing is that it would hold at about 80 for a while then drop to 0 then immedialy go back up to 80 again. Is this a problem on my end (I haven't touched the antenna, no new splitters, etc)? Or is this station just having some type of issue?
post #2 of 10
Station issues typically result in signal loss for intervals lasting much longer than a few seconds at a time. Meter behavior like this indicates that the tuner has lost its lock on the digital station. There are two possible culprits.

The biggest cause is multipath interference -- signal reflections arriving at the tuner at slightly different times, "confusing" it as to which one is the true signal. A more-directional antenna usually solves this issue.

Pre-amplifier and/or tuner overload can also cause this to happen. Overload distorts the digital signal such that the tuner can't decode it properly. Reducing amplifier gain, or removing the amp, resolves this problem.
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply.

I dont think its multipath issues as i only have one DB4 mounted outside on the side of the house. And I dont have a preamp either.

I have changed absolutley nothing. Prior to today the strength held between 80 and 95 with a SNR in the 25 - 29 range.
post #4 of 10
What were the weather conditions? I am thinking wind and trees. It doesn't take much to knock down a digital signal, at least in my experiences.
post #5 of 10
I'm not sure if this is what's happening to you, but sometimes the signal drops off for me if a large truck drives through the path from tower to antenna.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Weather is over cast, calm to zero wind.

I am about 20-40 miles from the towers (depending on which one and I am not sure how far this channels tower is). But I doubt its a truck causing the issue - theres really no way for a vehicle to get between the antenna...it would have to be driving through the woods.

I am on top of a hill with good clearing and Line of Sight.

Its important to note that no other channels had the issue.
post #7 of 10
You might want to try an inline amp. 20-40 miles is out a bit. I have trouble at 15 miles locking in a digital signal in my rural area with out an amp. See if it persists over the next few days. It may just go away, some temp interference perhaps.

Mike
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
Mike (localnet), thanks for your reply. I dont think i need a amp because i already receive 40 channels with just the db4 (and that is split 3 ways, 4 if you count the dual tuner in the tivo). Of course this number is counting 3-1, 3-2, etc each as a separate channel. Plus my strengths on all my major networks are 80 and up the majority of them darn near 100.

This one particular channel I speak of hovers in the 80 range with a SNR of 27ish. The issue has only presented itself today...and in the last hour or so has stopped dropping so much. I am hoping this is just a temporary issue.
post #9 of 10
I have seen a similar problem over the summer with a local PBS station, check your local forum to see if others are noticing drop-outs where it was once solid.

Otherwise call the station they might be aware of a problem.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Don_M View Post


The biggest cause is multipath interference -- signal reflections arriving at the tuner at slightly different times, "confusing" it as to which one is the true signal. A more-directional antenna usually solves this issue.

I see this when there are helicopters flying around. Normally there are none but if there is a wreck, fire, etc, there will be a few. They can cause multipath at a pretty good distance where you might not hear them. If it becomes a daily issue then something else has changed. Amps can go bad and do weird stuff like that on digital. Back in the analog days it was easy to see an amp go bad.
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