The Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD Owner's Thread... - Page 80

I bet if you give Joe a measly 5-6 hundred buck via Paypal ... Joe would make sure that the Oppo kicks the 09FDs @ss in every aspect in his review!!

Which will be huge for me, since I have a lot TV series collections.

Yes they do both make good players, but at different price points.
Don't forget about all that analog audio that you are paying for in the 09...which if it does not matter to you becomes of no value when trying to decide on one over the other.

Out with the (really) old.

Elite DV-37 circa August 2000

In with the new.

This puppy is built like a tank. Impressive.







Only an "ELITE" A/V geek can appreciate this eye candy
Look at all those copper screws!


Old vs. new


Build date January 2009


It's a long story, but for now I have my 09fd hooked up via component cable and digital coax. My Elite 141FD is mounted on the wall & I'm waiting for my custom audio cabinet to arrive. I don't have the benefit of seeing improved SD much less BD movies but it's going to happen soon. So far my 09fd works like a charm!

Blownaway:

You should update the firmware to get rid of the menu search screech bug. Other than that small flaw I have had no issues, also the firmware will improve loading times.

Fred

Yes it is impressive. Welcome aboard the 09 ship.

the Elite DV-37 is pretty nice looking being a player made in 2000

I have had that problem along with a radio tower three block from my home and my audio picking up the radio tower.

Different brands of speaker cable can help. However what really solved my problem was when I started to go to high end power cords and power supply.

Want!

But want with zonefree and HD-SDI out (as an option).

How do u get the BD-LIVE features to work? Everytime I go to access it on the disk it says u have to have this player connected to the internet, which it is, and I already did the firmware update so it is connected and working.

I Love this player, The Picture quality is way better then the ps3.

MAAAAAAAN that's sweet! It's getting harder and harder to resist.

Im using snake oil free good quality speaker cables (sonic wave) from impact acoustics for the fronts and center and blue jeans bulk speaker cable for the surrounds. All speakers have the same slight audible hiss even with different types and lengths of speaker cables.

Im using a PURE AV PF-60 power conditioner that everything is hooked up to.
When i had the halo A21 amp from parasound i never had speaker hiss or a ground hum. When i switched to the wyred4sound analog digital switching amp i started noticing alot of good things and bad. The first bad thing was a ground hum. I finally got rid of that when i route the comcast cable line into the power contioner so that it was properly grounded. That completely got rid of my hum that wasnt eveident with my parasound halo.


I just read on the wyred4 sound site that my amps XLRs are 60.4kΩ ohms.
And im using blue jeans Belden 1800F AES/EBU 110 ohm xlr cables.

Can this be the reason for the hiss? anyone know about ohms in xlr cables?


Chris

Chris, I am sorry you missed my point. I was talking about a high end power plant and power cords.

I have a Belkin PureAV® PF31, just a glorified surge protector.

As far as cables go, I did get a sub woofer rca/rca cable from BJ and my sub really started to hum with that puppy connected.

If you get hum in your system you need to take care of that by finding the source of the hum. Most likely its a coax cable line that needs to be grounded or a ground loop (using different outlets). If a cable has the proper impediance and good sheilding there should be no problem with the cables. I think sometimes a good cable will let you hear more and sometimes resulting in hearing some bad influences in your system. Now there are $$$ cables that make you hear some different , but i think those kinds of cables alter the sound.

I think the PF-60 is a very good power conditioner. It is a step up from the PF-31. Are you saying i should probably buy a $5000.00 power console?

What did you do to get rid of your sub hum?

Chris

I went back using the cable the sub came with, still hummed but not as bad. Until I got the snake oil power cords and my PS premier power station. I have the PS power set to MW and ran cleanwave. Now I can use the BJ sub cable. Mater of fact I am now using Interconnect 2ch rca analog that I couldn't use before because of what we are talking about. However I do have a pair of Audioquest - Diamondback Interconnect rca cables coming for my 2ch analog.

One thing you may want to try is plug your amp into its own private zone. That didn't work for me with my pf31 power staion, but you have the upgrade pf61.

btw; I didn't pay any were near 5Gs for all of my snake oil including the power station.

Interesting SillySally, I hope you dont think im trying to argue with you. Your very knowledgable and have alot of experience with quality AV gear. Thats why i like you and listen to what you have to say.

So now you are using a PS audio power console instead of the PF-31. And that got rid of your ground hum allowing you to go back to using the blue jeans subwoofer cable? I have more faith in buying a power console than buying just power cables.

If your room's electrical is in order and you are not using damaged cables or a defective / ground issue piece of gear, hums are a non-issue. Apparently there is a problem in SillySally's system / electrical and the cables are helping to hide it, not fix it...

I have 20 electrical components in my system and occasionally when adding something, moving things around a hum develops. The best solution, though most time consuming, is to unplug all components and interconnects and start from scratch until you hear the hum... THe last ground loop I had, after a couple hours of cable pulling turned out to be a defective component cable - never would have guessed - but that was the answer...

Quick fixes are 'Hum Eliminator' like products. I have a couple of those systems on back up in case I get frustrated!!!

This has not been mentioned much in this thread. From what I can read it doesn't appear that the 09 uses all of the technologies available in the Qdeo chip. The 09 seems to be instead to be using the same Pioneer developded chips (included in the 51/05) to perform such things as nosie redection, sharpness, gamma, etc.. I understand the Qdeo does the de-interlacing and scaling, is Pioneer using it to it's fullest capabilities?

The old LG BH200 had specific menu settings for the Qdeo.

Any comments?

Do you have cable TV connected to your system? That is a frequent villan in these scenarios.

Yes , to my TIVO. I had a small hum when the cable from the Tivo wasnt grounded correctly. When i ran the cable from the wall into the PF-60 and out to the TIVO it completely fixed my hum problem.

Heh, I know how you feel especially considering the deal I just had thrown in my lap yesterday afternoon.

I'm getting to a point here where I may just demo this thing myself and get it out of my system one way or the other.

Another vote for the PF60 here. I've had that for three years now and I've never looked back.

I like your taste in calibrators. Chad B. has been to my house 3X

Chad's the man. He just finished up my Kuro the other day. Wow!

That's the second job he's done for me. The first was an 8 hour marathon on a KD 34xbr960 tube over three years ago. He has seemingly limitless energy and unlimited patience. He's a great guy to boot!

I second that. Chad B. calibrated my Kuro a few months ago. I'm very happy with his work.

Could somone tell me if this player will play mpeg-2 video (.ts)/ as my trusty BDP-95 will? Just curious as to why they would add DIVIX and not support >ts.

thanks
MikeG

Its also worth mentioning that hum/buzz can also be caused if you use digital cable, as the cable company may have a seperate ground outside of your house. In this case, using an isolation transformer (i.e. isomax) on the incoming cable will eliminate or greatly reduce the hum with no ill effects.

http://www.jensen-transformers.com/datashts/vrd1ff.pdf

You should checkout www.jvbdigital.com. Already region free but no HD-SDI version yet. But that's probaly a question of time

It's only for the European version though (LX91), but it seems to have a 120-240 volt switch. So replacing the powerpulg should be enough.

that thing is awesome