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post #1891 of 2021
4/1/12 at 11:41am
OK I just set up my RF extender and all is working fine except for the vol. up and down. It works line of site only with the extender, all other command work from other rooms in the house but not the vol.

Any one know anything I don't.

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post #1892 of 2021
4/1/12 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by CinemaScope Man View Post

OK I just set up my RF extender and all is working fine except for the vol. up and down. It works line of site only with the extender, all other command work from other rooms in the house but not the vol.

Any one know anything I don't.

Thanks

Which device is controlling volume? Check to see if that device is controlled by IR or RF. I expect that it's your A/V receiver and that it's set to IR control which is line of sight.
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post #1893 of 2021
4/1/12 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Which device is controlling volume? Check to see if that device is controlled by IR or RF. I expect that it's your A/V receiver and that it's set to IR control which is line of sight.


Yes the a/v receiver is controlling the vol. and it set to rf. everything else is working fine.
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post #1894 of 2021
4/1/12 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by CinemaScope Man View Post

Yes the a/v receiver is controlling the vol. and it set to rf. everything else is working fine.

OK. So now I don't have any idea what is wrong.

Can you ask Harmony support without being charged?
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post #1895 of 2021
4/1/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

OK. So now I don't have any idea what is wrong.

Can you ask Harmony support without being charged?

I sent them an email today. Do they charge for support of there product?
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post #1896 of 2021
4/1/12 at 5:09pm
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I sent them an email today. Do they charge for support of there product?

It's free for ninety days I believe. It's also free if there is a problem with the remote or software during the warranty period. You need to get your programming problems solved during the first 90 days. I think the configuration software keeps track of your status.
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post #1897 of 2021
4/2/12 at 6:47am
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Originally Posted by CinemaScope Man View Post

works line of site only with the extender, all other command work from other rooms in the house but not the vol.

Any one know anything I don't.

Thanks

Can you double check if the commands work by going thru devices, selecting the receiver and see if the vol commands work from there? The commands may not be programmed to vol up and down hard buttons thru devices but you should be able to see the commands on screen if anything.

Be sure the correct commands are mapped to the activity's volumes hard buttons.
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post #1898 of 2021
4/8/12 at 1:29pm
I still can't get it to work.

I have had the 1100 for three months and it worked fine, then I get the rf extender and this happens, I removed the extender and now it won't turn the A/V receiver off.

I sent an email the Harmony they said I should update the firmware.

Do you think thats a good idea?
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post #1899 of 2021
4/8/12 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by CinemaScope Man View Post

I still can't get it to work.

I have had the 1100 for three months and it worked fine, then I get the rf extender and this happens, I removed the extender and now it won't turn the A/V receiver off.

I sent an email the Harmony they said I should update the firmware.

Do you think thats a good idea?

Do you mean the Harmony firmware? I believe that's updated anytime you use their software to configure your Harmony. Since the extender is new, have you tried calling Harmony customer support? They helped me when I added an extender.
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post #1900 of 2021
4/8/12 at 2:44pm
They said to put the remote in safe mode and update the firmware.
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post #1901 of 2021
4/8/12 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by CinemaScope Man View Post

They said to put the remote in safe mode and update the firmware.

I've never used safe mode, but it should work. I would still get them to walk you through the entire process of including your extender into your remote's setup.
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post #1902 of 2021
4/8/12 at 10:15pm
I have had my 1100 for two years and recently I wanted to program the activities such that, when watching a DVD, the players will eject the disc tray immediately after they are powered on.

So I did this in the power-up sequence by inserting an 'Eject' command after a series of delays that would allow the players to boot up first.

The problem is that the 1100 appears to send the 'Eject' command twice. For some reason, this has no effect on the Sony Blu-ray player - the player opens the door properly - but it does not work on the Toshiba HD-A20 HD DVD player.

Due to the double command, the Toshiba HD DVD player opens the door but it closes it right away. This only happens during the start-up sequence - see the attached screenshot. If I press the Eject soft button that I programmed on the Transport screen, the door will open and stay open, as it should. Both the start-up sequence and the soft button use the same 'Eject' command.

I looked at the IR emitters with a video camera. The original Toshiba remote and the soft button on the Transport page of the 1100 remote blink only once. But, during the startup sequence, the 1100 remote blinks twice in quick sequence.

I tried to re-learn the 'Eject' command in raw format and I also played with different delays before the 'Eject' command is issued during the startup sequence but nothing worked.

What is wrong here? What else should I do? Thank you.
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post #1903 of 2021
4/8/12 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by Michael9009 View Post

I have had my 1100 for two years and recently I wanted to program the activities such that, when watching a DVD, the players will eject the disc tray immediately after they are powered on.

So I did this in the power-up sequence by inserting an 'Eject' command after a series of delays that would allow the players to boot up first.

The problem is that the 1100 appears to send the 'Eject' command twice. For some reason, this has no effect on the Sony Blu-ray player - the player opens the door properly - but it does not work on the Toshiba HD-A20 HD DVD player.

Due to the double command, the Toshiba HD DVD player opens the door but it closes it right away. This only happens during the start-up sequence - see the attached screenshot. If I press the Eject soft button that I programmed on the Transport screen, the door will open and stay open, as it should. Both the start-up sequence and the soft button use the same 'Eject' command.

I looked at the IR emitters with a video camera. The original Toshiba remote and the soft button on the Transport page of the 1100 remote blink only once. But, during the startup sequence, the 1100 remote blinks twice in quick sequence.

I tried to re-learn the 'Eject' command in raw format and I also played with different delays before the 'Eject' command is issued during the startup sequence but nothing worked.

What is wrong here? What else should I do? Thank you.

Try just sending the 'eject' command without powering up the blu ray player, this normally powers them on anyway and then when it's ready it should eject. I have set delays for both panasonic & sony blu ray players and never had this 'double command' issue?
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post #1904 of 2021
4/9/12 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by BillyBlueHat View Post

Try just sending the 'eject' command without powering up the blu ray player, this normally powers them on anyway and then when it's ready it should eject. I have set delays for both panasonic & sony blu ray players and never had this 'double command' issue?

Thanks. As I mentioned in my post, the Sony Blu-ray player works perfectly with the 'Eject' command at startup. It's actually the Toshiba HD-A20 HD DVD player that gives me trouble. I also tried the 1100 on a Toshiba HD-A30 and the same problem happens. As far as I know, pressing the Eject button on the player will not power up the HD-A20, but I will double check later tonight.

Anyone would have any other suggestions?...
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post #1905 of 2021
4/9/12 at 3:05pm
Might be an error in the harmony database. If all else fails try making up a model number that won't be recognized then set the whole thing up manually you never know it might work.
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post #1906 of 2021
4/9/12 at 5:15pm
Just bought the 1100 and before doing anything it says charge for 6 hours until battery is completely "green". However, after several hours the battery icon with the lighting bolt is at the same level on the battery when I started. The green is about 1/4 lite and the rest of the battery is still a grayish color. It's attached on the docking station and appears to be working but will not fill up the green. This is the second unit because we thought something was wrong. On line help over the phone was completely useless and said take it back. We did and now the exact same thing. What are the chances that I got 2 bad units with the exact same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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post #1907 of 2021
4/9/12 at 6:34pm
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Just bought the 1100 and before doing anything it says charge for 6 hours until battery is completely "green". However, after several hours the battery icon with the lighting bolt is at the same level on the battery when I started. The green is about 1/4 lite and the rest of the battery is still a grayish color. It's attached on the docking station and appears to be working but will not fill up the green. This is the second unit because we thought something was wrong. On line help over the phone was completely useless and said take it back. We did and now the exact same thing. What are the chances that I got 2 bad units with the exact same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I don't think the icon with the lightning bolt changes on mine - but the actual charge icon that you see when it is off the dock shows the real charge level.
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post #1908 of 2021
4/9/12 at 11:50pm
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Just bought the 1100 and before doing anything it says charge for 6 hours until battery is completely "green". However, after several hours the battery icon with the lighting bolt is at the same level on the battery when I started. The green is about 1/4 lite and the rest of the battery is still a grayish color. It's attached on the docking station and appears to be working but will not fill up the green. This is the second unit because we thought something was wrong. On line help over the phone was completely useless and said take it back. We did and now the exact same thing. What are the chances that I got 2 bad units with the exact same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Is the white light lit on the docking bay when the remote is in place?
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post #1909 of 2021
4/10/12 at 1:51am
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Just bought the 1100 and before doing anything it says charge for 6 hours until battery is completely "green".

They are referring to the small battery icon to the left of the "Help" soft button on the screen. When you first put the 1100 into it's charging bay there is a large image of a battery. That's a fixed image that never changes. I think your remote is fully charged by now.
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post #1910 of 2021
4/10/12 at 6:38am
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Originally Posted by BillyBlueHat View Post

Try just sending the 'eject' command without powering up the blu ray player, this normally powers them on anyway and then when it's ready it should eject. I have set delays for both panasonic & sony blu ray players and never had this 'double command' issue?

I tried last night: the Toshiba HD-A20 can also be powered up by physically pressing the Eject button. This is good news and it seems the method you suggested may actually work. I will post an update after I re-program the remote.
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post #1911 of 2021
4/10/12 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by BillyBlueHat View Post

Try just sending the 'eject' command without powering up the blu ray player, this normally powers them on anyway and then when it's ready it should eject. I have set delays for both panasonic & sony blu ray players and never had this 'double command' issue?

I can confirm now that the method you suggested works perfectly. Thank you, BillyBlueHat!
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post #1912 of 2021
4/10/12 at 10:49pm
Glad I could be of help.
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post #1913 of 2021
4/16/12 at 1:53pm
Just thought I'd give back a bit after using this thread as I set my 1100 up over the past few weeks. In the thread, I saw a number of posts related to lighting control...mostly for Lutron.

We just finished our basement and I used Insteon dimmers and a few other devices for lighting in our theater, kitchen/bar and hallway. I've found the Insteon solution (from Smarthome) to be excellent and works extremely well with the Harmony 1100.

First, what's required:

Insteon dimmers - single dimmer and scene keypad (if you're using a bunch and want to link them all up for different scenes)
Insteon IRLinc - takes an infrared signal and passes it through the power lines to control the various dimmers
Homelinc (Optional) - computer interface that makes programming everything very easy and flexible

For my home theater, I wanted really precise and flexible lighting control so ended up with 8 seperate light zones (need a dimmer for each zone). This allows me to control three rows of theater cans, sconces, rope lighting, kitchen cans, kitchen undercabs and hallway lighting as individual zones. Then I set up different scenes such as full on, TV mid, TV low, etc.

The IRLinc comes with a remote control and allows for a lot of different scenes. The Logitech db has the IRLinc so it was really easy to then map scenes to Activities as well as control as a Device. I used the 4 left soft buttons on all Activity pages for lighting (All On, TV Mid, TV Low, All Off).

All my equipment is in a closet, so I'm using the RF wireless extender. So an RF command is sent to the Harmony extender, fires off infrared to the Insteon IRLinc and then all lights respond to the command.

It's worked flawlessly. This solution may be overkill for many and did get a bit pricey, but if you're looking for ultimate light control and also integrated with your remote, this has worked well for me.

Hope this helps someone as many of you have helped me!
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post #1914 of 2021
4/16/12 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by ScottW View Post

Just thought I'd give back a bit after using this thread as I set my 1100 up over the past few weeks. In the thread, I saw a number of posts related to lighting control...mostly for Lutron.

We just finished our basement and I used Insteon dimmers and a few other devices for lighting in our theater, kitchen/bar and hallway. I've found the Insteon solution (from Smarthome) to be excellent and works extremely well with the Harmony 1100.

First, what's required:

Insteon dimmers - single dimmer and scene keypad (if you're using a bunch and want to link them all up for different scenes)
Insteon IRLinc - takes an infrared signal and passes it through the power lines to control the various dimmers
Homelinc (Optional) - computer interface that makes programming everything very easy and flexible

For my home theater, I wanted really precise and flexible lighting control so ended up with 8 seperate light zones (need a dimmer for each zone). This allows me to control three rows of theater cans, sconces, rope lighting, kitchen cans, kitchen undercabs and hallway lighting as individual zones. Then I set up different scenes such as full on, TV mid, TV low, etc.

The IRLinc comes with a remote control and allows for a lot of different scenes. The Logitech db has the IRLinc so it was really easy to then map scenes to Activities as well as control as a Device. I used the 4 left soft buttons on all Activity pages for lighting (All On, TV Mid, TV Low, All Off).

All my equipment is in a closet, so I'm using the RF wireless extender. So an RF command is sent to the Harmony extender, fires off infrared to the Insteon IRLinc and then all lights respond to the command.

It's worked flawlessly. This solution may be overkill for many and did get a bit pricey, but if you're looking for ultimate light control and also integrated with your remote, this has worked well for me.

Hope this helps someone as many of you have helped me!

Thanks for the info! I strongly considered Insteon - but the cost factor led me to stay with my Lutron switches. In the future I may go that route - good to know it works so well!
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post #1915 of 2021
4/17/12 at 8:58am
If I were finishing a space today or replacing my switches and/or zoning out differently I would definitely go with an Insteon solution. You have a ton of flexibility with this product including network control.

ScottW, have you combined the play lights off command to maximize that movie theater wow factor? Let us know if you need any help.
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post #1916 of 2021
4/17/12 at 10:21am
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If I were finishing a space today or replacing my switches and/or zoning out differently I would definitely go with an Insteon solution. You have a ton of flexibility with this product including network control.

ScottW, have you combined the play lights off command to maximize that movie theater wow factor? Let us know if you need any help.

I haven't done that yet. I've seen your thread on how to do it so may in the future. I have set the four left soft buttons for all pages of all Activities for light control so want to work through a few movies like that to see how it goes usability wise. I'm still not sure if I want it quite that coupled...we may sometimes want to pause/play without changing the lights.

If you ever convert over to Insteon, they're easy enough to program with the on device buttons but with a bunch of zones going, different fade levels, etc., the Houselinc software for $100 is well worth it. Plus you can do all sorts of automation based on events, time/day, etc. that I haven't even touched yet. I've been very impressed. It never misses a command and I do love the slow fade in/outs of all my different scenes.
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post #1917 of 2021
4/17/12 at 10:55am
Good stuff...
I have a 6 zone Grafik eye for my HT and basement, so unless that unit breaks it wont happen any time soon. I'll probably slowly start upgrading the rest of my home eventually though, so thanks all the same.

I use my PS3 to watch movies but I wouldn't want the lighting changes during game playing mode so I have 2 activities setup, HT Movies and just PS3 for gaming. The activities are the same except for the Stop, pause and play. It works out nicely because like you stated earlier you don't always want lighting to change. Just something to think about.

Enjoy your new setup.
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post #1918 of 2021
4/21/12 at 12:17pm
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I still can't get it to work.

I have had the 1100 for three months and it worked fine, then I get the rf extender and this happens, I removed the extender and now it won't turn the A/V receiver off.

I sent an email the Harmony they said I should update the firmware.

Do you think thats a good idea?

OK I'm ready to smash this thing with a hammer, still not working right after a firmware update.
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post #1919 of 2021
4/21/12 at 2:05pm
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OK I'm ready to smash this thing with a hammer, still not working right after a firmware update.

Call Harmony Support.
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post #1920 of 2021
5/6/12 at 5:40pm
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Great!!! Hey at least were keeping the thread alive. Also I'm happy to have others joining in on the sequence workaround for the 1100 and the 900. I've been telling folks for a while now about the ability to do so, but it seems most just shrug it off as too much trouble. Really not more difficult than doing a regular learn or raw learn and a few more button presses.

Hi Oman321
I've been doing sequences for a while now on the H1 and also on the H1100(using your tip) ie dvd play lights out which works perfectly but when I add the RF extender to the H1100 the sequences stop working, I keep going back over the setup time & time again without any luck, The light switch I'm using is the Lutron Rania Dual IR(UK) which has multiple presets which is similar to the Lutron Maestro (US) are you guys using the extender with success doing sequences
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