"OFFICIAL" Pioneer MCACC thread - Page 14

Originally Posted by 2 Stangs

Well something has to be wrong then, and I have no idea what it could be!?! I'm listening at exactly 0 on the volume indicator or the receiver after MCACC.

My room is only 10x14x7. I'm running Klipsch Reference speakers as well (RVX Series) I've double checked just about all of my speaker connections and whatnot.

Any ideas?

Originally Posted by 2 Stangs

BTW, if I turn MCACC off then it does gets a lot louder at the '0' volume setting. I have the VSX-01TXH.

Originally Posted by GregLee

Perhaps you're deaf.

Originally Posted by bsoko2

So, which one do you listen to at -0? Music at? Movies at ? Is it analog, digital, or Multi Channel? What I'm getting at is that all of these different modes will not all have the same listening setting.

Bill

Originally Posted by spongebob

Have you looked at your EQ settings? I'm wondering if MCACC is really attenuating some lower frequencies?


bob

Originally Posted by 2 Stangs

Movies via HDMI. Havn't tried music yet.

My last receiver was a Kenwood model but I didn't have to turn it up so high.

Originally Posted by Gov

I had a Kenwood at one time too, I also didn't have to turn it up as high either. That said, don't get hung up on the what the number says on the dial. The Pioneer is much more powerful than the Kenwood!

Originally Posted by spongebob

Yeah, but "0" ??


bob

Originally Posted by 2 Stangs

Ok guys, I had a feeling I should try another player just in case so I brought my PS3 down from the bedroom and set it up for PCM. I tried two discs, T2 and The Incredible Hulk.

Big difference! I had to listen to the Hulk starting around -15 as I couldn't push it any further.

Maybe it's just the titles I chose, or something wrong with my HD-A2?

Originally Posted by Richard in SF

The mic included with these receivers doesn't inspire a lot of confidence for a set-up. Anyone have any experience with something better, but not too expensive?

Originally Posted by Richard in SF

It may be a known quantity, but I still think the principal of GIGO (garbage in - garbage out) applies. Other thoughts?

Originally Posted by bsoko2

The issue could be in the speaker setting of the HD-A2 player. I know that early on there was an issue with this when setting the XA2 settings for Multi Channel and it carried over into the bitstream side. Had to do with the reciever and player both controlling the speaker settings and the PLAYER took charge. So, check those settings and make sure they are set for SMALL and not LARGE.

Bill

Originally Posted by Richard in SF

The mic included with these receivers doesn't inspire a lot of confidence for a set-up. Anyone have any experience with something better, but not too expensive?

Originally Posted by catapult

Don't let the cheap looks fool you. I'm pretty sure Pioneer is using the same Panasonic mic capsule that is used in nearly all measurement mics under $1000. Its quality is really quite excellent even though, in the quantities Pioneer buys them, they are under $1 each. If you try a more expensive mic, it will most likely use the same sensing element as the Pioneer but it won't be calibrated correctly for your receiver.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...&name=P9925-ND

Originally Posted by catapult

I think you want all the speakers set to large, sub on, all levels at 0dB in the player so the player isn't doing any bass management or volume control of its own and leaves it to the receiver.

Originally Posted by Larry Hoffman

I don't believe this particular question has been asked.
I used the multi-point set up to calibrate my system. (1018 recieiver)
My projector is table mounted in between the seats that my wife and I use to watch movies.
We will bring in extra seats if another couple is with us, but most of the time there are two of us in the primary seats. (our room is on the small side, so we keep only two seats there permanently).
Since there are two main seating positions and they are either side of the projector, I used the left seat as the first reference point, the right seat as the second reference point and the area above the projector, since it is right between the seats, as the third reference point. That way we have a balanced calibration across the main seating area of the room.
Is there a way of using two reference points instead of three? Or is three the only number of reference points you can use for this. The manual shows only three points, so I was forced to use a central area as the third, even though it isn't a seating position. It seems to work ok, but in our case I'm wondering if there isn't a better way of multi-point calibrating.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
Thank you,
Larry

Originally Posted by speedread

Have you tried to "fake it out" by duplicating one of the two positions?

Originally Posted by Larry Hoffman

No I haven't. So instead of my using the center position over the projector for the 3rd reference point, I should either stay at the right side or go back to the left? I thought that might skew the readings too much to one area, which could be a problem.
I wanted to have the sound balanced across the seating area.

Originally Posted by speedread

If you go to the middle, it'll really throw it off...
If L is your left position and R your right, here's my suggestion: Calibrate twice: once with LLR, then again with LRR (the mic positions) then manually tweak it to be the average of the two measurements.