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post #1 of 219
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Well I guess it's time to start an official thread for this projector. In my opinion, this is one of the best 'bang for buck' projectors out there. Here are a few links to some of the reviews, blogs, and Sanyo:

Sanyo:
http://us.sanyo.com/Home-Theaters/PLV-Z60

Manual:
http://us.sanyo.com/dynamic/product/...l-16189822.PDF

Blog:
http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...-a-first-look/

Reviews:
http://www.projectorreviews.com/sanyo/plv-z60/index.php

http://www.projectorcentral.com/sany...tor_review.htm

http://www.hdtvexpert.com/pages_c/Sanyo_PLV-Z60.html

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/p...yo-plv-z60-lcd

Negative reviews:

http://www.projector.com/reviews/sanyo/plvz60.php

I've done some testing with HCFR and I will post my results soon.
post #2 of 219
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Here are my latest HCFR measurements and settings. Hopefully, everyone is familiar with HCFR for calibrating, if not check it out here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post12928563
Please note that my settings, as with all displays, will probably not match your results. Differences in screen types and subtle differences in manufactured electronics as well as environments make everything different. You know the typical calibration disclaimers. And, I might add, that I am not anything certified (ISF, THX, ..etc). I am more of a calibration hack who loves to get as much out of the display as I can. I ask a lot of questions over at the calibration forum and I try to learn as much as possible. Please feel free to share any other HCFR files.

 

Color calc for 1-25-09 color5 final.zip 39.4658203125k . file
post #3 of 219
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For the calibration, I turned off all of the iris settings. Now I'm rethinking that because I seem to get a better gamma when I use the setting auto1 for the lamp iris. Here is my post in the calibration forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post15665838
post #4 of 219
Can someone post some screenshots ?
post #5 of 219
I'd love to but I haven't got my camera back yet.
I'm going down to do a little calibrating this morning to get ready for the game tonight.
I've been going to do this for the past couple of days but I get down there and throw in a movie and I'm done
I just sit and enjoy the picture and the movie (no calibrating gets done)
I printed out the owners manual last night and read it this morning to get familiar with all the menu's so I'm ready as I'll ever be.
I'll let everyone know how I make out.( unless when I turn on the projector there is a good movie on or something )
post #6 of 219
I'll try to get some before I take it down.
post #7 of 219
Thank you for establishing an "official" Z60 thread. I got mine last week and so far, am very happy and impressed. I have it set up on a 92" 16:9 screen painted on the wall with Behr's "silverscreen" (non-tampered). Turned out Great!!

I do have one thing that is annoying me a bit, though. While watching HDTV (OTA), and especially during the football game, the distant, in focus objects seem to be in standard def and not very clear, especially when moving. Also, the background of Jay Leno's Tonight Show literally blinks on and off when the camera is moved ever so slightly. I was wondering if there is any specific setting that may help reduce this effect. I do understand that since it is an LCD projector and does not have 120Hz refresh, images in motion will be blurrier than other TVs or style projectors. Thanks for the insights.
post #8 of 219
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Originally Posted by mgottwalt View Post

While watching HDTV (OTA), and especially during the football game, the distant, in focus objects seem to be in standard def and not very clear, especially when moving. Also, the background of Jay Leno's Tonight Show literally blinks on and off when the camera is moved ever so slightly. I was wondering if there is any specific setting that may help reduce this effect. I do understand that since it is an LCD projector and does not have 120Hz refresh, images in motion will be blurrier than other TVs or style projectors. Thanks for the insights.

What signal are you sending to the Sanyo? Digital (HDMI) or analog (component)? And what resolution? 1080i or 720p?
post #9 of 219
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Originally Posted by angryht View Post

What signal are you sending to the Sanyo? Digital (HDMI) or analog (component)? And what resolution? 1080i or 720p?

I'm sending a 720p signal to it over HDMI from a Panasonic DVD recorder / VHS player / digital tuner (lot's of functionality, but doesn't do any of them very well... another topic). I was watching NBC, which I understand is 1080i. Maybe I should send 1080i to the Z60 and let it figure it out? Thanks.
post #10 of 219
I'm about to buy a screen for my Sanyo PLV-Z60 and would like to hear other's recommendations or warnings.

My HT room is completely light controlled.
Walls are painted a flat "dark cavern" (Behr 790F-7 - very dark brown/gray)
Sample at-http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca5110VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD;chan nel=EXPLORE;view=14).
Ceilings and baseboards are flat white.
Rug is an commercial type, multi-color brown.

I'm looking to purchase a 106" screen.
I was pretty set on purchasing a Matte White screen, but was starting to consider a High-Contrast Matte White screen (from Da-Lite).
I figured since our projectors are supposed to have good contrast already, and the light can be totally controlled (a basement room with NO windows), that simple Matte White would be the most appropriate choice... though "High Contrast" Matte White has me curious... a "Matte White" screen that somehow has gray in it to give better black levels "without sacrificing white levels"??? Seems like a contradictory claim... matte white, but has a gray base material???

Anyway, thoughts, opinions, recommendations, and warnings are appreciated. Thanks!
post #11 of 219
I'm still using my 92" black out cloth screen I made for my SP4805.
To me it looks gorgeous.
I just got my camera back today so I'll take some picks tomorrow and post them.
I'm in a dedicated basement theater. Completely light controlled with dark blues and burgundy.
post #12 of 219
I have my z60 playing output from my ps3 onto an elite ezframe 100" screen. I noticed on the top and bottom of the video there is a small bar, about 3~4cm all the way across. Is this something wrong with my projector? The bar is the same color as what is being displayed on the screen, and if I resize the picture the bar moves with the edge of the picture. Its very odd to say the least. I tried to overscan the image, but that didnt seem to help. Any ideas?? Also what is a good calibration for the z60? I don't have any of the fancy calibration disks, but all my blacks seem to be a grayish color and not a nice dark black. I know I won't get black blacks, but they shouldn't be gray
post #13 of 219
Top and Bottom:




Any ideas? It happens on bluerays too

EDIT: I notice in the picture it appears whitish, but thats just the camera picture, in reality it is almost the same color as the video being displayed just a little bit off.
post #14 of 219
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Originally Posted by mgottwalt View Post

I'm sending a 720p signal to it over HDMI from a Panasonic DVD recorder / VHS player / digital tuner (lot's of functionality, but doesn't do any of them very well... another topic). I was watching NBC, which I understand is 1080i. Maybe I should send 1080i to the Z60 and let it figure it out? Thanks.

To me it seems like it might be a deinterlacing problem. Do you have a blu-ray player or hd dvd? Have you tried checking with HQV disc? Try 1080i. The projector may do a better job than the panasonic.
post #15 of 219
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Originally Posted by skippy911 View Post

I have my z60 playing output from my ps3 onto an elite ezframe 100" screen. I noticed on the top and bottom of the video there is a small bar, about 3~4cm all the way across. Is this something wrong with my projector? The bar is the same color as what is being displayed on the screen, and if I resize the picture the bar moves with the edge of the picture. Its very odd to say the least. I tried to overscan the image, but that didnt seem to help. Any ideas?? Also what is a good calibration for the z60? I don't have any of the fancy calibration disks, but all my blacks seem to be a grayish color and not a nice dark black. I know I won't get black blacks, but they shouldn't be gray

This looks it might be a scaling issue. Does this happen with SD discs and Blu-ray discs?
post #16 of 219
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Originally Posted by GET 1T DONE View Post

I'm about to buy a screen for my Sanyo PLV-Z60 and would like to hear other's recommendations or warnings.

My HT room is completely light controlled.
Walls are painted a flat "dark cavern" (Behr 790F-7 - very dark brown/gray)
Sample at-http://www.behr.com/Behr/home#vgnextoid=6bd8ea6621ca5110VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCRD;chan nel=EXPLORE;view=14).
Ceilings and baseboards are flat white.
Rug is an commercial type, multi-color brown.

I'm looking to purchase a 106" screen.
I was pretty set on purchasing a Matte White screen, but was starting to consider a High-Contrast Matte White screen (from Da-Lite).
I figured since our projectors are supposed to have good contrast already, and the light can be totally controlled (a basement room with NO windows), that simple Matte White would be the most appropriate choice... though "High Contrast" Matte White has me curious... a "Matte White" screen that somehow has gray in it to give better black levels "without sacrificing white levels"??? Seems like a contradictory claim... matte white, but has a gray base material???

Anyway, thoughts, opinions, recommendations, and warnings are appreciated. Thanks!

Here's what Art with projectorreviews had to say about screens:

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PLV-Z60 Projector Screen Recommendations
Considering the low lumen output in best mode, and the better than typical black level performance for a 720p projector, I have to recommend a white screen surface, and for many of you, one with some gain. Screens like Carada's Brilliant White (only available in fixed wall), or pull-down, motorized or fixed wall equivalents from Da-Lite, Elite, Draper, Grandview, Stewart, etc. with gains in the 1.1 to 1.4 range are probably the best choice. Of course if you are going with less than 100" diagonal and have some side ambient light issues, then you might want to consider a light gray high contrast surface, which will help with some of that side ambient light.

If you will not have folks sitting far to the sides, then some may even want to choose a higher gain screen, such as a 1.8 gain. I'm definitely not big on gains higher than that, because of the unevenness of illumination from left to right, if you are not sitting extremely close to the center.

Mine's a Draper matte white (I think) and I'm pretty happy with it.
post #17 of 219
I posted it happens on blurays too
post #18 of 219
I finally got a minute to take a couple of pictures.
They are not very good, I have an old 3.1 megapixel.
The actual picture from the Z60 looks much better then these pics.
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post #19 of 219
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Originally Posted by skippy911 View Post

I posted it happens on blurays too

I know. That's why I asked if it happens with Standard Definition discs, too. I'm guessing it does. I don't think I have any more thoughts about what it could be.

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Originally Posted by angryht View Post

This looks it might be a scaling issue. Does this happen with SD discs and Blu-ray discs?
post #20 of 219
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Originally Posted by mrpergo View Post

I finally got a minute to take a couple of pictures.
They are not very good, I have an old 3.1 megapixel.
The actual picture from the Z60 looks much better then these pics.

Lookin' good!
post #21 of 219
thanks for the pics,

can I request pics of the actual unit? i'm trying to visualize how bit it would look against the wall or celling.

thanks folks,

bye
post #22 of 219
I'll take one in the morning and post it for you.
post #23 of 219
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Originally Posted by angryht View Post

To me it seems like it might be a deinterlacing problem. Do you have a blu-ray player or hd dvd? Have you tried checking with HQV disc? Try 1080i. The projector may do a better job than the panasonic.

Thanks angryht. I do not have a blu-ray player yet and do not have an 1080p source to send it, yet. No HQV disc either. I'll try the 1080i setting on the Panasonic and see how the projector handles it. On another note, my budget Insignia 720p 26" LCD TV handles "The Tonight Show" just fine.

Also, to chime in on the projector screen front, I painted a 92" 16:9 screen on my wall with Behr "Silverscreen", no additives. $9 /qt. Can't beat it for value and it looks awesome. The 2" black flok tape I bought from Goo was 4x as much, but nothing really out there in black velvet tape for cheap. Anyway, that's my two bits.
post #24 of 219
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Originally Posted by mrpergo View Post

I finally got a minute to take a couple of pictures.
They are not very good, I have an old 3.1 megapixel.
The actual picture from the Z60 looks much better then these pics.

Thanks, not bad. can imagine the actual quality is much better.
post #25 of 219
Here are a couple pics of this baby mounted.
I moved it up a foot from where I had the SP4805 to get more FL.
I think I'm at 17 or 18fl now.
I have to repaint that area and put the rubber grommet back for the cables.
I pulled the M1 cable out and replaced it with an HDMI.
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post #26 of 219
A big thanks "mrpergo" for the photos, it look a bit bigger than I tought. Not sure if I should show them to the girlfriend...she is not very positive on having that on the celling/wall

I'm working hard and I will soon be part of the z60 owner family..

all the pics are welcome, Thanks
post #27 of 219
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I have a Panasonic BD30 connected to my Z60 and I can't get 24 fps to work. I have seen lots of reviews that say it supports 24 fps. However, I cannot find anything from Sanyo in the specs or in the manual that specifically says it can do 24 fps. Does anybody have this combo? Is anybody else running 24 fps from a different source. It seems like most are using a PS3 with no problem. But I can't seem to get it to work with my BD30.

Thanks for any help.
post #28 of 219
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Originally Posted by angryht View Post

I have a Panasonic BD30 connected to my Z60 and I can't get 24 fps to work. I have seen lots of reviews that say it supports 24 fps. However, I cannot find anything from Sanyo in the specs or in the manual that specifically says it can do 24 fps. Does anybody have this combo? Is anybody else running 24 fps from a different source. It seems like most are using a PS3 with no problem. But I can't seem to get it to work with my BD30.

Thanks for any help.

Did you try the panasonic menus, or the sanyo menus? projectorreviews.com states twice that z60 supports 24fps via hdmi. if both machines support it, it may be something you missed.
post #29 of 219
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Originally Posted by wolverin View Post

Did you try the panasonic menus, or the sanyo menus? projectorreviews.com states twice that z60 supports 24fps via hdmi. if both machines support it, it may be something you missed.

I tried both. The Sanyo menu doesn't have anything related to 24 fps. The Panasonic menu has a separate setting for 1080p and 24 fps. It will allow me to change it to 1080p, but when I try to change to 24 fps it does not recognize that the Sanyo is capable. I think it's an HDMI handshake issue (or maybe a forced 24 fps issue) but I'm waiting for Panasonic to respond to my emails. I'm kind of scratching my head but I was curious (and I've asked it before elsewhere) if anybody else has this combo.
post #30 of 219
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I was under the assumption that although the sanyo would receive a 24fps signal, it still displayed it at 60fps, instead of a multiple of 24. Again, maybe I'm mistaken.
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