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PS3 with Yamaha 663 using Fiber Optic

post #1 of 20
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any suggestions on some settings I should use? Just wanna make sure everything is set right. I have the xbox and cable box hdmi into the receiver so the ps3 has to be fiber optic for audio to the 663
post #2 of 20
you'll get 2 channel PCM when it is present and you'll get 5.1 audio (whether it's DD or DTS) when present. pretty much keep the receiver on "STRAIGHT" and it'll do what it is supposed to do.

in the PS3 options just select 2 channel PCM, DD and DTS in the sound settings.
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

you'll get 2 channel PCM when it is present and you'll get 5.1 audio (whether it's DD or DTS) when present. pretty much keep the receiver on "STRAIGHT" and it'll do what it is supposed to do.

in the PS3 options just select 2 channel PCM, DD and DTS in the sound settings.

i was mainly confused because the receiver just shows the left right speakers lit up and says PCM on it...though it sounds like surround coming out of the speakers...it was just messing with my head

i forget, but do you have a link or info on the difference between ps3 hdmi audio and ps3 fiber optic audio?
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by 65fastback2 2 View Post

i was mainly confused because the receiver just shows the left right speakers lit up and says PCM on it...though it sounds like surround coming out of the speakers...it was just messing with my head

i forget, but do you have a link or info on the difference between ps3 hdmi audio and ps3 fiber optic audio?

i also have a Yamaha receiver which i love.

the XMB and when playing music it should show PCM and should show that only the main (L+R) speakers have a signal going in. if you have an effect selected on the receiver then you may be getting surround sound, fake surround sound but still surround sound.

every game i have have played so far had a 5.1 channel soundtrack so it should show 5.1 on the receiver.

if you select "straight" on the receiver it will play everything exactly like it's being sent. 2 channel will be 2 channel, and 5.1 will be 5.1. i almost always have my receiver set to "straight", unless i am listening to 2 channel music and feel like letting the receiver simulate 5.1.

i don't have a link about comparing hdmi to optical. but:

optical will do 2 channel pcm and 5.1 DD or DTS only.

hdmi will do 2 channel pcm, 5.1 DD, DTS, and all the new hi def formats like true hd.
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

i also have a Yamaha receiver which i love.

the XMB and when playing music it should show PCM and should show that only the main (L+R) speakers have a signal going in. if you have an effect selected on the receiver then you may be getting surround sound, fake surround sound but still surround sound.

every game i have have played so far had a 5.1 channel soundtrack so it should show 5.1 on the receiver.

if you select "straight" on the receiver it will play everything exactly like it's being sent. 2 channel will be 2 channel, and 5.1 will be 5.1. i almost always have my receiver set to "straight", unless i am listening to 2 channel music and feel like letting the receiver simulate 5.1.

i don't have a link about comparing hdmi to optical. but:

optical will do 2 channel pcm and 5.1 DD or DTS only.

hdmi will do 2 channel pcm, 5.1 DD, DTS, and all the new hi def formats like true hd.

im trying to figure out while watching a bluray movie i get the L+R PCM lit up on the receiver and not surround sound (L+R+C+LR+RR) lit up on the receiver
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by 65fastback2 2 View Post

im trying to figure out while watching a bluray movie i get the L+R PCM lit up on the receiver and not surround sound (L+R+C+LR+RR) lit up on the receiver

go into the video settings(not display but video).

the second setting from the bottom will say "BD Audio Output format (optical digital)": set that to Bitstream instead of linear PCM. that will fix your problem.

Linear PCM is 2 channel when using optical, Bitstream is full 5.1 when using optical.
post #7 of 20
^ exactly this
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^ exactly this

thanks. i turned my PS3 on just to figure it out to help.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

go into the video settings(not display but video).

the second setting from the bottom will say "BD Audio Output format (optical digital)": set that to Bitstream instead of linear PCM. that will fix your problem.

Linear PCM is 2 channel when using optical, Bitstream is full 5.1 when using optical.

thanks much sir...i knew it was a ps3 setting, just wasnt sure which and where
post #10 of 20
no problem man.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by 65fastback2 2 View Post

any suggestions on some settings I should use? Just wanna make sure everything is set right. I have the xbox and cable box hdmi into the receiver so the ps3 has to be fiber optic for audio to the 663

A little off the topic of the thread, but I have the 663 also and I have my DirecTV and PS3 going optical into it and HDMI to the TV for picture. Question for you, how is the HDMI passthrough with the receiver? Picture quality and performance just as good when going thru the receiver and not straight to the TV? I know your PS3 isn't hooked up that way, but I'd imagine it's the same deal with the XBox and cable box.
post #12 of 20
I would unhook the cable box or 360 from the HDMI and use HDMI for the PS3 the other 2 do not do lossless audio so i would use HDMI on the one device that does. You will thank yourself as soon as you watch a lossless Blu-ray. I would use component for the 360 and put the PS3 on HDMI

Dr.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by $mitty View Post

A little off the topic of the thread, but I have the 663 also and I have my DirecTV and PS3 going optical into it and HDMI to the TV for picture. Question for you, how is the HDMI passthrough with the receiver? Picture quality and performance just as good when going thru the receiver and not straight to the TV? I know your PS3 isn't hooked up that way, but I'd imagine it's the same deal with the XBox and cable box.

Yes, Run the PS3 through the receiver first. You Cannot have lossless audio with Toslink. Run HDMI to the receiver, then to the TV. Your ears will thank you.

Dr.
post #14 of 20
i have not so ideal results when running video through my RX-V2500. i would hope you're newer model would be better though. i'm not sure if it is a real known problem or if it is just with my unit though.
post #15 of 20
Black Crush is a common Yamaha video problem (if you read the AVR threads). Ideally with the Yammy you would have an HDMI splitter to send the lossless audio to the AVR and one to send the video to the TV sans black crush from the AVR.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by dogdoctor View Post

Black Crush is a common Yamaha video problem (if you read the AVR threads). Ideally with the Yammy you would have an HDMI splitter to send the lossless audio to the AVR and one to send the video to the TV sans black crush from the AVR.

my problem isn't black crush, although now that i run everything directly to my tv the picture does look brighter and looks to have more contrast/sharpness. i got nasty vertical scanning lines and phase distortion when i ran things through my yamie.
post #17 of 20
I hooked my PS3 into my 663 with HDMI last night and I didn't notice a different in picture quality. The sound got noticeably better though! Now my PS3/AVR supports about every audio format known to man, which is nice. The only problem I have with it is every time I use the Yamaha's remote to adjust any settings other than volume (speaker settings, etc.), my PS3 picture disappears and that terrible settings menu appears on the screen. Anyway to turn that off so it doesn't appear on my TV and I can just control it thru the small screen on the receiver like I was before I was using HDMI?

Also, when I use the 'pure direct' settings (I like it when watching a movie) it will only give me audio. The picture goes blank anytime I choose 'pure direct'. Anyone have an idea why?
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by $mitty View Post

Also, when I use the 'pure direct' settings (I like it when watching a movie) it will only give me audio. The picture goes blank anytime I choose 'pure direct'. Anyone have an idea why?

That's what Pure Direct is supposed to do; it's intended for listening to music with no AVR processing whatsoever.

You would want to hit the "Straight" button, which is right next to Pure Direct.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

That's what Pure Direct is supposed to do; it's intended for listening to music with no AVR processing whatsoever.

You would want to hit the "Straight" button, which is right next to Pure Direct.

OK...I knew pure direct was no AVR processing but I didn't realize it was audio only. I typically always have it on "Straight" when I'm watching TV or playing PS3. I guess it's a moot point if I've got HDMI b/c it's sending uncompressed 5.1 audio anyway!

Do you know anything about the settings menu that pops up on my screen? How can I make it only pop up on the AVR's screen? It bugs me when I'm watching or playing something and I go to adjust setting and it takes over the TV. Hoping there's a way to turn that feature off.
post #20 of 20
Sorry, I'm not sure if there is a way to defeat the on-screen menu or not. The out the V663 thread in the AVR sub-forum and run a search. I'll bet somebody's asked the question before.

Good luck!
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