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post #121 of 141
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Originally Posted by pohsib View Post

Watched Grease with the wife. (actually the first time I've seen the entire movie) Understand, she doesn't "get" Bluray, HD, etc. She just thinks it looks "brighter". Now I think she does get it. [IMG]http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k08t1221bbuq/gdsmile.gif[/IMG]
It's one of her favorite movies (other than Goonies), and she had a great time pointing out details she hadn't noticed before.

My take on it, it's a worthwhile upgrade. We actually went back and watched the DVD, and it looked just nasty. Parts of the BR were a bit fuzzy, but I think that's more or less the source, not sure much can be done about that.

Anyway, it was enough for her to finally see what all the fuss was about. I was happy to see her excited about it. Now if Goonies turns out atleast as good....

I agree with you, that's a very exciting movie to watch for.
post #122 of 141
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

I assume a rights issue of some type?

Yes it was a rights issue. It funny because its shown clearly in the special features/deleted scenes. There is Pepsi in the movie also. The most notable is some empty Pepsi cases on the back porch of Martys house during one of Sandys songs.
post #123 of 141
The Coke logo thing goes way back to when the movie was in theaters: http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s70grease.html
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post #125 of 141
Here's an obvious thing I noticed in the fifth set of screen caps.

The old car screen right of the Ferarri is an MG TC. In the DVD caps, the "MG" isn't legible in the radiator emblem but it is legible in the Blu-ray.

Also, on the rolling tool cabinet at the extreme right, the "Snap on" logo is legible on the Blu-ray but it can't be read on the DVD caps.
post #126 of 141
Those Ferris Bueller screen caps look great. A definite improvement over the DVD. I may go pick that one up this week.
post #127 of 141
The 2006 dvd was a downgrade from the original release wasn't it?

The BD is obviously a big step up because it' HD but the weird median filter look is unfortunate.
post #128 of 141
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Originally Posted by Kram Sacul View Post

The BD is obviously a big step up

And in post #102 you said:

"IMO Ferris looks like garbage."
post #129 of 141
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Originally Posted by Kram Sacul View Post

IMO Ferris looks like garbage. A shame too because I remember the dvd looking quite nice. Guess the actual HD transfer wasn't HD ready.

Yep Ferris looks very good on Blu-ray. Glad I picked it up.
post #130 of 141
Those grabs are making me reconsider my inital *heh, I'll pass* thought (based on first hand comments here from folks who bought it and from some online reviews stating "it coulda looked much better) and thinking about it for the right price now.
post #131 of 141
Nice post eric.exe! I see those BD caps from FERRIS and all I think is, "Oooooooh yeah."

All three of these (GREASE, SNF, FERRIS) are pretty solid looking catalog releases. I'm price-watching, and will eventually buy all three.
post #132 of 141
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Originally Posted by Dex Robinson View Post

And in post #102 you said:

"IMO Ferris looks like garbage."

When compared to other BDs that don't suffer from smudge artifacts.

Of course it looks like How the West Was Won alongside dvd captures.
post #133 of 141
I watched Ferris tonight and it does suffer from some ever-so-slight blurring - noticeable on faces during motion. I found it a bit annoying at times. All in all, an okay release.
post #134 of 141
eric.exe, thanks for the comparison pix, I'm off the fence, will buy it soon.

Gman
post #135 of 141
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

Grease looks phenomenal to me.

Ferris is just so-so IMHO.

what do you think is wrong with Ferris?

It looked good to me. Sharp, colorful, had grain, no halos. Looked very fine,e specially for a mid-80's movie. The few times faces got really soft you could easily tell the focus puller had just out and out missed (which actually isn't a terribly rare occurence, it's hard to always be perfect shooting low DOF 35mm). If anything maybe a trace too much contrast.

Anyway, whatever the story, it is far from any sort of video quality disaster.

Sound good too.


The one thing I don't like is how all the video/DVD/TV and now blu-ray releases totally mangle the ending. It was a lot funnier as originally shown in the theaters, but maybe they were afraid people would simply shut off the video the second the credits started to roll and miss and the last three small parts of the film?? I still don't know why they couldn't just have stuck to the original way the ending was cut with the multiple fake endings cut between the credits.
post #136 of 141
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

The one thing I don't like is how all the video/DVD/TV and now blu-ray releases totally mangle the ending. It was a lot funnier as originally shown in the theaters, but maybe they were afraid people would simply shut off the video the second the credits started to roll and miss and the last three small parts of the film?? I still don't know why they couldn't just have stuck to the original way the ending was cut with the multiple fake endings cut between the credits.

I've only ever seen Ferris on home video. Can you give more info (or link) about the original ending?

Thanks,
Doug
post #137 of 141
I do think Ferris still underwent some filtering....creating the effect I mentioned above. However, at least some grain is retained and I would still recommend the release to anyone interested in the movie.
post #138 of 141
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

I've only ever seen Ferris on home video. Can you give more info (or link) about the original ending?

Thanks,
Doug

well it is all there on home video, but they did kind of alter it.

In the theatrical cut it had a fake ending, I forget exactly at what point, perhaps as early as when Rooney walks up to him laying on the doormat looking for the key, but probably it was a little bit later, like after he already got upstairs?? Anyway basically sometime around then the movie appeared to end and the credits started to roll (across the full width of the screen) and it was over.

Only then all of a sudden the credits stopped and it continued on again with some more footage (full screen width) starting either with when he got upstairs or more likely it was a bit later like perhaps when the principal's car started getting taken away? I really forget exactly when all the cuts were, '86 man , but then they showed a bit more of Rooney chasing his car or whatever and then it ended and the credits rolled fullscreen again.

Only then all of a sudden the credits stopped and then it continued on again with more the end scenes like maybe with Rooney on the bus? and then after a bit more of that (full screen width) it was finally over.

Then maybe that happened again once more or maybe not. Anyway now it was over and the credits were rolling full screen only you didn't think it was over....

....you kept waiting as the credits scrolled by having already almost gotten tricked two or three times out of your seat before by fake endings so you sat there watching the credits scroll by waiting for more movie since you were pretty damn sure it was not actully over yet. Only it actually was this time and then at the very end of the credits Ferris pops up again and does that bit about "What are you still doing here? The movies over. Go on, get out of here, shoo shoo." or whatever it was he said exactly. and then the movie was finally 100% over.

anyway, now that you know the original theatrical cut, it probably makes those last few lines he delivers make a lot more sense, since on the video version you're probably thinking wtf is he going on about asking why are we still here when the movie has been continuously going the whole time (with the side by side credits/latter parts of the movie in the video cut), why shouldn't we still be watching?? It doesn't really make any sense at all anymore for him to have that final breaking the wall scene with the audience.

Anyway, it made the ending funnier and they timed all the cuts between the final sets of scenes and the credits pretty well and it all worked a little bit better and made a more sense that way, so it is kind of a shame that not a single TV airing or home video format has it cut the original way.

When it first showed up on TV they had the new cut you see now either because they were afraid as soon as a slow credit scroll started you'd click the remote or maybe it helped them get through credits faster so they woulnt have to cut as much to fit the film in 2 hours plus tons of commercials. And then when they brought it over to VHS I guess they stuck with the new ending edits fearing that without the darkened theater to kinda keep you around (and back in '86 they use to keep theaters dark well into the credits, not like nowdays) they figured you'd just switch off the disc or something or maybe they didn't want to remaster the ending and just re-used it from the TV cut.

Anyway, I'm not sure there is a link to the original ending since AFAIK only the actual film shown in theaters back in '86 ever had that cut. The TV/VHS/DVD and now blu-ray all have the modified cut. Maybe somebody got a really crappy bootleg video tape of it in the theater back in the day or something though?
post #139 of 141
Very interesting! Thanks, Skibum.

Doug
post #140 of 141
Does anyone else think Ferris Bueller may have been given a contrast boost?
post #141 of 141
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Originally Posted by SirDrexl View Post

Does anyone else think Ferris Bueller may have been given a contrast boost?

possibly

I don't recall 80's movies usually have that much of a contrasty pop, especially not this sort.

Maybe they tried to make it look more modern?

Hard to recall for sure though, that was a long time ago and I saw it on a crappy mall screen.

My best guess would be yes though.
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